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Is This A Ripoff?  Yes, but so what.

Pick any golf technology. Composite crowns, cupped faces, rubber cores, weights (both affixed and movable), slots (speed & velocity), compression channels – whatever you want to call them, the ubiquitous Anser putter, and everything else; done and redone.

If you think you’ve seen it before, you probably have.

Nearly every manufacturer, nearly every technology.

Is Tour Edge’s new Rally Wedge a PM Grind rip-off? Yup, and blatantly so. Is the PM Grind spawned from PING’s Eye2. Maybe. Not even Callaway would deny similarities.

Does any of that actually matter?

Not even a little.

It’s likely that every club in your bag was begotten of a previous creation, and anything that’s been successfully evolved will beget more. It’s the circle of life within the golf equipment world.

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Do we really have shits to give about this?

I don’t care who created the first adjustable driver, just give me a better one…or at least a cheaper one.

That’s what I want.

We All Do It

All this pointless “they borrowed/stole <insert new product here> from <insert whomever you think did it first here>” stuff that we’ve all complained about from time to time…it’s just that; pointless. It’s tedious.

I’m guilty of it too. Not long ago I called out Callaway for their Turbulator-inspired Speed Step Crown. Yeah, the story sure was familiar, but in retrospect, shame on me. I can’t really fault anyone.

G30 was a winner; the #1 driver model in golf last season. Duplication to nearly any extent is smart design. Failure to make it through so much as a paragraph without mentioning Boeing is brilliant marketing.

This is Not That

Similarities are always in the eye of the beholder, and they inevitably always illicit rage to varying degrees – Example A:

While this may look like that (and give me any club and I’ll find another it looks just like), it’s seldom about ripping off a competitor.

It’s about responding to the consumer and chasing what sells. Also, what does the PGA of America have to do with this?

Is the 2016 TaylorMade M2 really trying to be the 2015 Cobra Fly-Z? C’mon.

A bit of yellow paint, reportedly similar centers of gravity, and they’re both designed to hit golf balls.

One’s metal, the other UnMetal. Speed Pockets and Smart Pads are different things. Yeah, they both have words on the sole, but otherwise, they’re nearly as different as any two back-CG drivers can be. That is to say, probably not all that much, but that’s true of everything.

As long as the common sense bottom line is why innovate when the other guy has already found the answer, there will always be overlapThere’s profit in someone else’s ingenuity.

It’s not just the equipment companies either. Media does it too. Content ideas, layout and formatting, even stories themselves. The better something works, the faster the clock on exclusivity ticks for all of us. It’s reality; no more, no less.

A year ago our competitors said data-driven club tests were meaningless, now they flatter us.

And that’s the thing. Imitation isn’t just flattery, it’s validation. Just don’t expect anyone to cop to it. While there’s little honor among thieves, hypocrisy festers in abundance.

This too is the undisputed reality of the industry.

Advancing Good Ideas, Ignoring Bad Ones

Today’s technology makes it easier than ever before to reverse engineer the old and rapid prototype the new.

Here’s your reality check: If two, maybe three years go by and somebody’s latest and greatest technology hasn’t been co-opted by a competitor, you can be all but assured that it was shit technology to begin with.

If it’s copied, at least you know it works.

It Is What It Is

Don’t get me wrong. I don’t like any of this, and I hate condoning it, even excusing it, but what’s really to be done? If it’s a problem, it’s twofold;

Nearly everyone in the industry does it, and nearly everyone in the industry accepts it.

Like I said…circle of life.

So let me prep you for the next battleground in the war of who did what first. It probably won’t be long before TaylorMade, Callaway, PING or somebody else with measurable market share produces a single-length iron set.

As you always do, one of you will say Tom Wishon did it first. Another will say it was Edel. A third will site an obscure patent to prove everyone else wrong. It won’t matter.

It is what it is.

So by all means, let’s grab a bottle of single malt and celebrate the few true innovators we have until none of us are left standing, but make no mistake; almost everything is derivative, and it almost never matters who did what first, or even who did it best.

It only matters who sells the most.

It’s time we all came to terms with that.

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Tony is the Editor of MyGolfSpy where his job is to bring fresh and innovative content to the site. In addition to his editorial responsibilities, he was instrumental in developing MyGolfSpy's data-driven testing methodologies and continues to sift through our data to find the insights that can help improve your game. Tony believes that golfers deserve to know what's real and what's not, and that means MyGolfSpy's equipment coverage must extend beyond the so-called facts as dictated by the same companies that created them. Most of all Tony believes in performance over hype and #PowerToThePlayer.

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      Brady Cameron

      8 years ago

      Mizuno is copied more than any other club manufacturer. People don’t realize how great the design and quality of their clubs are until they play some.

      Reply

      Todd Gullickson

      8 years ago

      Stick to what fits YOUR game…doesn’t matter how much or how little it costs, or the technology that goes with it…play your game…play to win with what works for YOU!

      Reply

      Jarred Carlyle

      8 years ago

      You should flip it over..then you’ll see the difference. Scrubs

      Reply

      Seth Kitzke

      8 years ago

      your rbz has alot more weight in the front. This weights in the back.

      Reply

      Jamie Neidich

      8 years ago

      Krank and Geek Golf are light years ahead of the rest!

      Reply

      Cody Das Boterman

      8 years ago

      I’ll stick with my bombtechs

      Reply

      Brett Lund

      8 years ago

      Holy ballsack …

      Reply

      Brett Lund

      8 years ago

      My RBZ looks like that now lol that was 3 years ago

      Reply

      Bob Wilson

      8 years ago

      Much like Most of the 2016 automobiles look like they were designed by the same team. Once a new look or feature shows marketing popularity, everyone rushes to replicate it.

      Reply

      Tony Stopar

      8 years ago

      It’s all about marketing and what they OVERPAID tour pro’s to play when they could use a tree branch! Most equipment is so over priced for the same reason and everyone wonders why golf growth gets stagnant or regresses!

      Reply

      Kevin Yukichi Shimada

      8 years ago

      NO JUST TAYLORMADE!

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      Joshua Rodgers

      8 years ago

      Every company copies another company with minor modifications. Taylomade’s slot was a copy of Adams slot, Titleist compression channel is a copy of Nike’s compression channel, Everyone’s multi material heads are a copy of Callaway. It is what it is, if people don’t like it then they don’t have to buy the clubs.

      Reply

      Jason Lutte

      8 years ago

      Taylormade products are still crap though. They come out with new gimmicky products so often that many retailers cannot even keep up with them. Many people find ping and titleist to be above the fray because they do not participate in this sort of market saturation technique. I choose not to buy them for performance reasons though. I buy quality, which is why I have Miura passing point irons in my bag and their K grind wedge. My irons cost more money than what you have in your entire bag.

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      Joshua Rodgers

      8 years ago

      You are a funny guy but unfortunately for you my driver alone cost what you paid for your Muira’s (Tour Issue JDM SLDR 430 with $1000 tour issue Aldila Rogue 125MSI tour x-stiff). Every club in my bag is tour issue with a mix of tmag, Callaway, and rife. Nice try though. I’m not a hater of any company and believe they all have their good and bad but just saying one companies products are crap because of their product cycles is just ignorant.

      Reply

      Tony Dear

      8 years ago

      Was surprised not surprised that after reading so much about Callaway’s alliance with Boeing, the resulting club was not unlike Ping’s driver.

      Reply

      Daniel Thelen

      8 years ago

      Taylor Made is junk.

      Reply

      Edward Thompson

      8 years ago

      Never buy driver when first out way to much money wait few months half price or more

      Reply

      Edward Thompson

      8 years ago

      Not the same

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      Justin Ansara

      8 years ago

      Taylor made is the worst at this. Lol

      Reply

      Branden D Waldron

      8 years ago

      Why call it a rip off? Clearly the m2 is basically an updated aeroburner.

      Reply

      Max Carter

      8 years ago

      Maybe it just so happens that a centered rear weighting system is the current standard for premium drivers… I believe that the industry has unethically inflated prices on drivers and woods in the last decade, but I don’t see this as an issue. That design produced the most distance, why would club manufacturers not use it? I’m perfectly content with my ’09 Sumo on an SV2 shaft though, still gets me out there in the short stuff

      Reply

      Jake Thomas Richardson

      8 years ago

      Sounds like a bunch of pros on here haha

      Reply

      illum1na71

      8 years ago

      Who cares, as long as the club works for you what does it matter if one brand “copies” another brand. That’s what patents are for. And the whole argument, ” INSERT COMPANY NAME did that 10 years ago” is not a valid argument. Yes, that company did it 10 years ago, but materials, manufacturing techniques and processes have change to make something that may may have worked, okay, 10 years ago a better product today.

      Brands copy other brands CONSTANTLY! Nike Lunar, Adidas Boost, Asics FuseX.
      Audi A5, BMW 435i, Lexus RC.

      everyone just needs to chill.

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      Andrew

      8 years ago

      Yeah, really. Puma is now using the “Ignite” moniker that Nike Golf and Hockey had so recently been using (maybe still are, I don’t know) and maybe were going to again. That one I would be chapped about.

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      Duncan Castles

      8 years ago

      Tony,
      I really enjoy writing, and have learned a huge amount about golf equipment and the internecine warfare between golf equipment manufacturers from reading you. However, I have to say that your “It only matters who sells the most. It’s time we all came to terms with that” pay-off misses the mark here.
      From the perspective of corporate accounting and kudos, yes, there is sense to the “who sells most matters” line. (Though it could be argued that whose sales generate the most profit is the real measure of success).
      But from the perspective that should count here, that of the golfer who wants the best equipment for his money, there is a lot more that matters than who sells the most.
      First, I surely don’t need to argue why the best selling driver or iron on the market at any given time isn’t always the actual best performing club. This site regularly demonstrates that.
      Second – and more to your entry point – if there is a company or a designer out there who is consistently developing more of the most effective technology first, it’s very much in the average golfer’s interest to know about them. Still more so if that company or designer isn’t one of the high market-share OEMs and their product is available at a discount to those high market-share OEMs “revolutionary new” designs.
      I’d argue that there is one out there. And the OEMs appear to really like his stuff!

      Reply

      James Wallace

      8 years ago

      Man, I’d go to Puetz Golf Seattle and check these out! See for yourself!

      Reply

      Eron

      8 years ago

      Wow everyone is getting testy.
      It is so muddled that over lap or similarities were bound to happen, how many drivers use an adjustable hose now???
      Just use the club that works best for you.
      Companies, unfortunately, don’t owe you anything, so stop complaining about their release cycles it’s pointless and you don’t have to buy the latest release. Common sense people.

      Good article Tony! Puts a lot of perspective out there.

      Reply

      McaseyM

      8 years ago

      Amen. This has really turned into a pissing match with several claiming their chosen company is the best. I carry 5 different brands of club, cobra driver, Tour Edge 4 wood, Wilson hybrid, Mizuno irons/wedges and odyssey or Spalding putter, and my buddy who is 7 inches shorter and 45 pounds lighter plays a 5 year old TM driver and out drives me 90% of the time, plays 10 year old snake eyes irons, 10-12 year old Wilson fairways and whips me every time.
      Play what works FOR YOU! It’s much more the Indian than the aarow.

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      Rolla

      8 years ago

      Nice one Case!! Additionally, every golfer should get fit not just for specific clubs but more for the type of shaft, grip size, lie angle etc. that matches their individual swi ng then look for matching models. Golf is a lot easier with the right tools.
      Birdies & Eagles everyone
      W

      Thomas Amore

      8 years ago

      PXG does not look like any other club

      Reply

      tiger168

      8 years ago

      Yeah, but, someday, some products will look like them…

      Reply

      Mark Heard

      8 years ago

      Looks like a Srixon 745 with some bolts added for aesthetics.

      Reply

      Craig

      8 years ago

      PXG basically ripped off Exotics hollow body iron design

      Reply

      Jimbo

      8 years ago

      Sorry, I dozed off there. What were we talking about?

      Reply

      Johnny Ra Ra

      8 years ago

      Tom oslavsky head of cobra design used to work for? You guessed it Taylormade! If you buy an off the rack driver your part of the problem. Get fit and you won’t need to whinge.

      Reply

      Kcorb Eloc

      8 years ago

      I see a lot of differences.

      Reply

      Danny Kim

      8 years ago

      So tired of this… That’s why now I’m looking at totally new companies like Williams Golf now days…

      Reply

      idzine

      8 years ago

      LOL. Williams Golf doesn’t even exist anymore.

      Reply

      digi

      8 years ago

      Actually they do. they were even at the pga show last month.

      http://www.williams-racing-golf.com/

      illum1na71

      8 years ago

      Before you start jumping to williams or bentley or another non mainstream brand, who do you think does their RND? you think they do it? Probably not. They probably and most likely go to open market designs in China and make them there. you think Williams wants to spend the money in RND? Pick a design off the wall, tweak it, put your name on it… Done.

      illum1na71

      8 years ago

      You think Williams is sitting down and RND’ing all their product? They probably/most likely go to a factory in China and pick an off the shelf “open model” design, tweaking it and going to production. Take a look a the offering from Williams it would take an army of full time designers and engineers to get this going. Not to mention the designs are terrible. You’d think a bunch of car designers could make a better looking club. Look at their linkedin page the entire company is 10 people.

      https://www.linkedin.com/company/williams-racing-golf?trk=company_logo

      tiger168

      8 years ago

      It only matter who sell the most? Are you kidding me?

      That is how you destroy Adams Golf, That is how to small shop cannot compete with the big.

      Just like in court, big conglomorate hires million dollar lawyers to kick ass of the pro pono public defenders. Is that justice? Should I say, OJ??

      Small company innovate, big company Market and BS. Oh, and copy.

      Tony, you are better then that! Come on!! I can’t believe you are at that level… Sticks to what you know.. Please…

      Go ahead, killl all the little guys… I dare you…

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      Tony Covey

      8 years ago

      It only matter who sell the most? Are you kidding me?

      I wish.

      That is how you destroy Adams Golf, That is how to small shop cannot compete with the big.

      Adams was destroyed. Only the very best run small shops can compete with the most poorly run big ones.

      Just like in court, big conglomorate hires million dollar lawyers to kick ass of the pro pono public defenders. Is that justice? Should I say, OJ??

      Justice? No. Reality? Yes.

      Small company innovate, big company Market and BS. Oh, and copy.

      Often

      Tony, you are better then that! Come on!! I can’t believe you are at that level… Sticks to what you know.. Please…

      I don’t like it, I don’t condone it, but it is what it is. That much I know.

      Go ahead, killl all the little guys… I dare you…

      The little guys are getting bigger, because most of the really little guys are gone.

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      irish62

      8 years ago

      Ping could have been on top of the golf world since forever. if they had chromed their irons. They are the true techno wizards of golf.

      Reply

      Sims Moore

      8 years ago

      It all comes from the same place.

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      Troy

      8 years ago

      Golf manufacturers have been doing this for years so it’s no surprise to see TaylorMade copying off Cobra.

      Cobra are making great strides in drivers especially in the last few years and I think the other big names are starting to take notice.

      Reply

      Dean Dodge

      8 years ago

      Thanks for a sane viewpoint and reminder that sometimes we can all be right.

      Reply

      Mike Ensoll

      8 years ago

      Not ‘every’ golf coy, Ping are the innovators!

      Reply

      Jimmy Tester

      8 years ago

      Can’t blame Taylor made for copying cobra ….real technology

      Reply

      Matt Cipolla

      8 years ago

      It’s very clear that MyGolfSpy is very much anti TaylorMade. No worries. They still have the best equipment in the game today. That’s not going to change any time soon.

      Reply

      MyGolf Spy

      8 years ago

      Hey TaylorMade rep, did you actually read the article?

      Reply

      Bryan Kloss

      8 years ago

      Beat me to it MyGolf Spy

      Reply

      Micah Montgomery

      8 years ago

      Tmag is good but so are a dozen other companies offerings. Got 6 brands in my bag

      Reply

      Tom Cander

      8 years ago

      TM has the worst quality control and the hardest to deal with on warranty issues… Facts!

      Reply

      Robert Kirk Provart

      8 years ago

      actually TM is one of the easiest on warranty claims, been in (and still in) the business for many years.

      Reply

      Matt Heister

      8 years ago

      really? The basically send you a replacement for almost any issue. What are you talking about?

      Reply

      Tom Cander

      8 years ago

      Not for any of the guys that I’ve known to have warranty returns. It still goes back to quality control.

      Reply

      Cody Faught

      8 years ago

      Taylormade is not the best equipment in the industry lol.

      Reply

      Tyler Allen

      8 years ago

      Not true. Got a dent in my R11 couple months after buying it. Emailed and called and emailed and called. Never heard anything from anyone ever. Taylormade is trash. Why do you think adidas is trying to sell them?

      Reply

      Bob Pegram

      8 years ago

      Most major golf manufacturer “innovations” are taken from small designers like Ralph Maltby or Tom Wishon, the two best club designers in the business. With limited manufacturing runs they can try new designs without huge risk. The major companies copy what works for these two.

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      Robyn

      8 years ago

      Not logical. Those “limited” runs are not a small risk when you’re a very small company. Shallow pockets make every run a huge risk. Might be small money to TM, but it’s a year’s R&D budget to a small one.

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      Chris Valdivia

      8 years ago

      If you buy a new driver you are being ripped off… Roger Dunn has barrels FULL of excellent condition drivers, and for half and even 1/3 of the original cost. If you have a decent swing the “technology” really isn’t going to help you… The space between the ears is. LOL

      Reply

      Jason Lutte

      8 years ago

      That’s why I buy my equipment from a real company. Titleist

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      Matt Heister

      8 years ago

      ? ok fan boy.

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      Derek Collins

      8 years ago

      cause titleist is so cheap. Just as expensive as anyone else

      Reply

      Jason Lutte

      8 years ago

      It’s not a matter of how much you pay. I never said that. They come out with new equipment every 2 years, not every 2 months.?Titleist is worth the money you pay, which is why I just bought a $500 oban kiyoshi tour limited shaft for my driver.

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      Joshua Rodgers

      8 years ago

      Every company is a real company genius. But Titleist has copied other non real companies innovations with slight changes for years and years just like everyone else. The latest copy is the compression channel that they ripped from Nike. The adjustable hosel, vokeys which were design copies of the original 588’s, the Scotties which were copies of the Karsten design, tungsten in irons, and etc. Just because their product cycles are spaced farther apart doesn’t mean they are better or don’t copy other companies. And just because an individual buys another companies new clubs every year doesn’t mean they over paid, it just means they have more disposable income than you and don’t complain about new clubs every year.

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      Jason Lutte

      8 years ago

      You are wrong. It’s simple economics and is evident in golf equipment as well in other aspects of the economy as well. If a manufacturer constantly upgrades and replaces the current model as requently as Taylor made and cobra do, sometimes twice a year, they are forced to discount the last model out. Which is why a 2 year old titleist product is worth more than one from several of the others manufacturers relative product. In response to disposable income, I must have far greater income than you being that I paid far greater amounts than you did for the clubs that are in my bag as compared to you then, correct?

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      Jason Lutte

      8 years ago

      Case in point, the r15 driver which retailed last year for $525, currently retails new at TGW for a nominal $239.98. In comparison, the titleist 915 driver which retailed last year for $449, still retails for $449. Don’t be upset because you own taylormade products. I’m not the one that sold them to you.

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      Marty Neighbour

      8 years ago

      Very few things in life are original anymore. Especially now that were in a global information sharing world.

      Big Bertha sliding weight track? Mizuno did it 10 years ago. (MP600)

      TaylorMade “unmetal” woods? Mizuno did it 10 years ago (F50)

      Would it prevent me from using one or the other? Not at all. I’d use what works best for me.

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      Michael Holbrook

      8 years ago

      I stand corrected , it seems Puma does now own Cobra , i just researched it … my mistake :-)

      Reply

      Matt Heister

      8 years ago

      2010 Called

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      Jeff

      8 years ago

      Have the new Cobra drivers been compared to Taylormade M2

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      Sandtrap

      8 years ago

      As for the single length clubs it was Tommy Armour EQL in the early 90’s.

      Fighting over which company or club is better is really not the point. The point should be which is better for YOU.
      3 different golfers and 3 different answers to which is the best driver.
      Ping is the best for…..
      Titleist is the best for….
      Cobra is the best for…..
      What your buddy plays or what you’ve always played has no bearing on what is best for you in this quarters release of $450 drivers. Hit them all and be open minded

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      Ryan Holcomb

      8 years ago

      I just want to design my own driver and woods that fit me perfectly for performance, looks and sound. Until that is offered these “new” releases are lame.

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      Guy Crawford

      8 years ago

      The Most Wanted 2015 vs the oops we need one like that!

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      JMB

      8 years ago

      I see the New TM M2 a copy of the Titleist 915 with a copy of Callaway crown. Which by the
      way all started with the Channels brought in by Nike. Nike didn’t know they had something
      and sales where flat. Titleist picked it up and did it right and Rocket sales .
      Titleist will come out in 2016 with the carbon crown with the channels and have the
      best head for another 2 years.

      Simple fact.

      Good luck and Good scores

      JerryMB

      Reply

      Chris Johnson

      8 years ago

      If you can’t beat em, join em

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      Todd D Heugly

      8 years ago

      I said that when they first came out

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      Dennis Anderson

      8 years ago

      yes

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      Mike Cortson

      8 years ago

      I have a set of Hogan Macgregor irons that were same as he used in his magical 1953 season. If you saw them in a barrel for sale for $5 you wouldn’t give them a second look much less buy them. It is the monkey not the stick. Fix the monkey.

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      GilB

      8 years ago

      To take someone else’s idea, tweak it, and produce it under your name is the essence of manufacturing, whether it’s autos, golf clubs, washing machines, clothing or anything else that either outperforms what you’re presently making or is the latest fad is common. What’s all the fuss about? Now, if it’s an exact copy of what you’re manufacturing, that’s patent infringement. Companies have been doing this forever and will forever.

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      TH

      8 years ago

      To be first (heh) but Edel’s one length club sets comes long after this:

      http://www.1irongolf.com/

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      Steve

      8 years ago

      And 1 Iron Golf was preceded by Tommy Armour’s EQL’s in the late 80’s/early ’90’s. And before that Jack Nicklaus used single length clubs to win the US Amateur; saw them at the Buckeye Hall of Fame Cafe before it closed. And before that, until McGregor started mass produced clubs in the late 20’s, everyone built single length clubs fitted to each golfer.

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      Nathan

      8 years ago

      your comment about Jack caught me quite off guard. Can you post any proof or references that he played single length irons at one point (other than you seeing them once).

      mdwyglfr

      8 years ago

      Tony,
      Thanks for keeping a clear mind on this topic. What you are describing here is not just a Club manufacturer issue. In many other industries the same thing happens year after year. For many industries the R & D departments are code named “Rip-off and Duplicate”!! Nothing new here.

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      Michael Holbrook

      8 years ago

      Taylor Made and Cobra are both owned by Parent Company Addidas so there is no rip-off here.

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      Santiago Lahitou

      8 years ago

      Cobra is owned by puma, not Adidas

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      Justin Clark

      8 years ago

      Cobra, Titleist, and foot joy are all owned under the Acushnet Corporation.

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      Michael Holbrook

      8 years ago

      yes parent company of Addidas

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      Matthew Ricks

      8 years ago

      Cobra is owned by PUMA….no affiliation with Adidas or Acushnet…They were purchased 6 years by Puma from Acushnet….get with the times People!!!

      Reply

      Davide Mattucci

      8 years ago

      they’re not. Cobra used to be and was purchased by Puma. adidas owns Taylormade.

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      Matt Heister

      8 years ago

      ummm? Cobra was sold years ago, to Puma.

      Reply

      Matt Heister

      8 years ago

      how long does it take these ‘golfers’ to hear about stuff that happened several years ago.

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      Daniel Thelen

      8 years ago

      Puma’s parent company is Kering.

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      Lance Raska

      8 years ago

      Acushnet is owned by Fila they bought them in 2011 for 1.2 billion

      Reply

      Paul boyd

      8 years ago

      So true. Same for literature. The Greeks and Shakespeare plays have all the original story lines.
      Nothing new Great article

      Reply

      Andy Unger

      8 years ago

      Most of the things I see nike started

      Reply

      Brandon Wooley

      8 years ago

      Haven’t seen anyone copy cavity back drivers.

      Reply

      Andy Unger

      8 years ago

      Not yet. Adjustable hossel and the compression channel, just to name a few

      Reply

      Regis

      8 years ago

      You mean like Metal Woods; Hybrids (rescue) . (Hint it wasn’t Nike)

      Reply

      Andy Unger

      8 years ago

      Look up str8-fit

      Reply

      Matt Heister

      8 years ago

      adjustable hosel. That tech came from callaway

      Reply

      Daniel Thelen

      8 years ago

      Nike golf equipment is junk too

      Reply

      Jon Bonsky

      8 years ago

      Adams golf came out with slot technology first

      Reply

      John Duval

      8 years ago

      Remember when TaylorMade Golf ripped off Adams Golf with their velocity slot, then bought them to avoid a lawsuit? #GoodTimes

      Reply

      Micah Montgomery

      8 years ago

      And now when the patent expired every company has the slot tech lol

      Reply

      Fozcycle

      8 years ago

      Get your facts straight……Wilson built the first slotted irons….back in the 1970’s

      Reply

      Blake Breckenridge

      8 years ago

      I sure do miss Adams, I have a set of V4 forged irons I’m hanging onto, know I’ll have to upgrade someday though.

      Reply

      Peter Eller

      8 years ago

      originality is a myth Everything is a remix , its fundamental to the creation of new ideas
      https://vimeo.com/139094998

      Reply

      Mike Cortson

      8 years ago

      This will fix your drive faster than anything. http://www.benhogan.ws

      Reply

      Joe Gendron

      8 years ago

      You are pushing your DVD with Facebook comments?!? Seriously… I am just going to block you.

      Reply

      Mike Cortson

      8 years ago

      Hit ’em crooked then. :)

      Reply

      Kevin Ooi

      8 years ago

      That’s why I stick with real golf companies like PING

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      Joe Gendron

      8 years ago

      That’s dumb. I hit multiple Drivers for demo and always found Ping the worst for my dispersion and length. Ended up in a Bridgestone… Don’t pigeon hole yourself by being a fanboy of a particular company. I never imagined I’d be gaming Bridgestone equipment but here I am. With a lower handicap and better all around game.

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      Micah Montgomery

      8 years ago

      The g30 sf tech is second to none IMO

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      Kevin Ooi

      8 years ago

      At least doesn’t churn out new clubs every few months

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      Sean Cartwright

      8 years ago

      Joe Gendron That dispersion is down to you, and not the club!✋??

      Reply

      Micah Montgomery

      8 years ago

      My irons are from a European company few Americans have heard of.

      Reply

      Mike

      8 years ago

      What company is that?

      Joe Gendron

      8 years ago

      Well that’s odd because my J815 had a much tighter dispersion on trackman than the Ping, Titleist, Cobra, Callaway and Taylormade. So it is not always about the player. Some clubs tailor better to different players swings and that’s fact.

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      Micah Montgomery

      8 years ago

      Not surprising that Callaway has surpassed Tmag in sales.

      Reply

      Micah Montgomery

      8 years ago

      Actually both Bridgestone and Ping make premium equipment. To say one is good and one is bad isnt accurate at all. Boils down to subjection.

      Reply

      Brandon Wooley

      8 years ago

      Probably the way the shaft fits your swing more than the club head.

      Reply

      Kevin Ooi

      8 years ago

      Anyone has any stats on the best selling driver in 2015?

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      Bobby Jordan

      8 years ago

      But if everything performs about the same hit perfectly center (which they do, you can’t seriously try to tell me a difference in ball speed of 2mph or less really matters to anyone not playing professionally) then the best driver should be the one that is the most forgiving for off center hits. Which the #1 ranked (including my golf spy) has been the G30 in more places than not. The best driver is the most forgiving for YOU. Who cares about distance if you can’t hit in in the center consistently?

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      Bobby Jordan

      8 years ago

      I get everything that goes into all 3 coming together but if there is a particular companies head that independently tests more forgiving on off center hits how that would not be more beneficial for the “masses” golfer than +/- 10 yards. Mid to high handicap golfers often have their top struggle be to hit the ball in the center of the club even with properly fit equipment. What they need more than anything is a driver that forgives these hits not a top ball speed of a well struck shot.

      But I appreciate everything you guys do. Seem to be the most non bias group out there. Always a good read on your stuff

      Reply

      Micah Montgomery

      8 years ago

      I still rock the 2011 Cleveland SL290. Shafts are more important to me at this stage in my life and golf career.

      Reply

      Brandon Wooley

      8 years ago

      Let’s face it, most of us would be far better off spending the 500 bucks on lessons.

      Reply

      Johnny Ra Ra

      8 years ago

      Anyone that doesn’t get fit is an idiot. I always played and loved callaway woods an irons since I was a kid. Fast forward to now where I play off scratch and fittings are a must. Found cobra drivers to outperform ALL other brands for me. My bag isnt dominated by one brand…that’s for hackers. Get fit people

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      MyGolf Spy

      8 years ago

      The ball doesn’t care what name is on the sole.

      Reply

      Sean Cartwright

      8 years ago

      Well you’ve obviously just struck the ball in a worse place on the face with the Ping compared to the others. You could have hit 9/10 of the Ping good but hit one a lot off line which can just mess up the overall average for that club??

      Reply

      Micah Montgomery

      8 years ago

      MD actually. Super Strong forged

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      Christopher Flowers

      8 years ago

      I agree. I almost bought a set of bridgestone irons. I steer away from Taylor made. I instead bought the Adams cb2 black forged iron and still use them to this day. Not a use brand name but I have never hit a club that I liked better. Although the bridgestone was very close

      Reply

      MyGolf Spy

      8 years ago

      the most forgiving driver is NOT the best driver for you. There is a definite relationship between distance, accuracy and forgiveness that comes in to play. We have spent countless hours diving in to this for consumers and we think our current formula represents the best representation of what makes the best driver for you.

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      Micah Montgomery

      8 years ago

      I’ve had these for 5 years paired with TT DG S300 shafts I can’t ever see changing again. I was lucky enough to stumble upon a stateside dealer of MG Golf equipment and I’m glad I did. I would stack these up with AP 2s any day of the week or any other high end club maker for that matter. Quality is spot on.

      Reply

      Micah Montgomery

      8 years ago

      Yeah….I went and demoed the Mizzy JPX 850 forged the other day and tbh they they didn’t feel right to me. Could’ve been the Orochi graphite stiff they had not sure. My days of club hoing were back in the 90s……finally got smart and broke my swing down and it made all the difference in the world.

      Reply

      Bobby Wilson

      8 years ago

      MyGolf Spy been playing Ping for years. Handicap is low and only going lower. Love my G30. It’s not all about distance

      Reply

      Travis Ritenour

      8 years ago

      G30 ls tec with tour shaft = long!

      Reply

      Steve Paine

      8 years ago

      I played the hybrids about 6 years ago…I probably never should have sold them…live and learn…

      Regards.

      Reply

      Steve Paine

      8 years ago

      I got mine shipped from Ireland…changed shafts 2x – second time no bueno…it’s definitely the Indian…not the arrow.

      Reply

      Robert Kirk Provart

      8 years ago

      I’ve been playing for over 55 years, have a plus handicap and have understood for years and years that no matter the manufacturer not all club work for all golfers. Actually most only work very well for a few, that is why there are still many choices. WHAT WORKS FOR YOU PROBABLY WON’T FOR ME, ETC

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      Courtney Edwards

      8 years ago

      Which is why Taylormade starting releasing multiple lines a year. If you can’t be good you might as well be shiny!

      Reply

      Mark Roberts

      8 years ago

      4 drivers this season seem very good. XR CALLAWAY COBRA F6
      PING G AND WILSON STAFF F5.
      The new Wilson c200 irons seem to be the real deal in what tests I’m seeing and what I have been hearing at demo days.

      Reply

      John Anthony Eubanks

      8 years ago

      Joe Gendron unless you use the same shaft in each one a comparison is not accurate

      Reply

      Jon Bonsky

      8 years ago

      it’s because of the shafts.

      Reply

      Kan Benione

      8 years ago

      Try a set of these.

      Reply

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