PXG 0311 GEN3 Iron
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PXG 0311 GEN3 Iron

PXG 0311 GEN3 Iron

Let’s dispatch the tired bits first.

Yes, the new PXG 0311 GEN3 irons are expensive, but they’re only $425 per iron. That’s not meant to be pejorative. When I initially discussed GEN3 with PXG Founder, Bob Parsons in November, the price hadn’t been finalized, but $500 per club was on the table. So as far as I’m concerned, we’ve already saved 15%, and we’re barely two paragraphs deep.

But yeah, PXG clubs are expensive. They’ve always been expensive. They’re always going to be expensive. It is what it is.

“The grumbling doesn’t matter,” says Bob Parsons, PXG’s Founder and CEO. “The grumblers, as best as I can tell, for the most part, aren’t our customers.” If you’re still grumbling, PXG isn’t for you.

Secondly, it’s time to come to terms with the idea that PXG isn’t going anywhere. The clock has run out on arguments that the company wouldn’t last 2, 3, 4, or even 5 years. Last year, PXG made Inc. Magazine’s list of the 500 fastest-growing companies (the 3rd time a Parsons-founded company has made the list), it’s opening new retail stores, and on closer inspection, loosely sourced reports of layoffs at the company turned out to be a net gain in headcount.

PXG is here, and it’s going to continue to sell golf clubs at price points that piss some people off. We can continue to belabor those points, but do you really want to be the last guy standing over a horse corpse waiving a stick?

It’s time to get over it, move on, and take a serious look at the tech behind PXG’s latest offering.

3 Models

Before we take the deeper dive into PXG’s GEN3 technology, we should probably start by explaining that the GEN3 family of irons consists of three distinct models. As with many modern iron sets, they’re designed to be mixed and matched to create your ideal set. Lofts do vary between models, so if you choose the combo route, your fitter can help you to determine the proper loft progression.

0311 GEN3 T

The T (Tour) model is the most compact of the three offerings. It features the thinnest topline, the narrowest sole, and the least amount of offset. Its shorter blade length also contributes to the T being the least forgiving of the three models. By the category standard, it’s not an unforgiving iron, but in my experience with the clubs, the drop-off to T from P and XP is appreciable.

As the name suggests, it is intended for better, though not necessarily tour-caliber players. That means it offers higher spin rates and increased workability.

0311 GEN3 P

The P (Players) sits in the middle of the range, and I suspect, for a good portion of our readership, the P’s balance of distance, forgiveness, and workability will hit the Goldilocks sweet spot. It’s just right.

Topline thickness is moderate, though PXG uses a chamfered design to remove any visual suggestions of bulk. The sole is a bit wider and the blade is a bit longer when compared to the T. That extra bit of size yields 13% higher MOI (relative to the T).

The P is a bit smaller than the XP but isn’t what most would consider a small iron, and there’s plenty of forgiveness baked into the design.

0311 GEN3 XP

The XP (EXtreme Performance) replaces the XF (EXtreme Forgiveness) in the new lineup. The name change is mostly semantic as the XP occupies the same position (game-improvement) in the lineup as the XF. According to PXG, the XP is optimized for both distance and forgiveness.

Relative to the 0311 GEN3 P, the topline is thicker still (though again, the chamfered design helps hide a bit of the bulk). Sole widths are wide to prevent digging while making the irons easier to hit. Blade lengths are longer. Once again, PXG does a reasonably good job of disguising the size, and given the 10% MOI bump over the P, opting to look down at something just a bit bigger has its benefits.

Forgiveness (extreme or otherwise) remains a significant component of PXG’s technology. “When you move off-center, our products maintain more consistent ball speeds across a much wider portion of the face,” says Brad Schweigert, PXG’s Chief Product Officer. “It’s inherent to how that structure works, the elements of MOI, and all those things that people have always talked about that improve off-center performance, but there is a way our technology behaves that still delivers a lot more energy when you miss-hit it.“

On the most-extreme edge of forgiveness, the oversized 0311 GEN2 SGI does not have a direct replacement in the GEN3 line. It will carry on as is.

With the basics of the lineup covered, let’s take a deeper look into the design and technology that powers the 0311 GEN3 family.

5X Forging Process

While the size of the heads differs, the basic geometry of each of the three models is the same. To hammer out the final shape is a complex process that requires a 5-step forging process to form the 8620 steel head into its final shape.

If you’re looking for some justification for PXG’s costs, start here.

When PXG says it uses a 5X forging process, it means that it uses five molds per iron. To be clear, that’s not 5 per model, it’s not 5 per iron set, either. It means five molds are required for a 4-iron, five more for a 5-iron, and on and on we go. It’s excessively expensive, and I’d ask anyone who wishes to belabor that point to remember that the reason why small brands invariably have limited left-handed forged options can be summed up in two words: Mold Costs.

“I hope people realize we’re not here to price gouge or to be arrogant,” says Schweigert. “We’re just trying to make really, really good product, and what we do is expensive sometimes.”

Costs for a single mold can run upwards of $10,000. PXG is manufacturing 3 sets of 9 clubs, with 5 molds each, and it’s doing it for both left and right-handed heads.

The signature design element of the GEN3 family is the trapezoidal pop-out on the back of the club. In the 0311ST Blade as well as other muscleback designs, it creates an opportunity to concentrate mass behind the sweet spot for true muscleback performance. With GEN 3’s hollow-body construction, however, the pop-out forms a pocket, which creates more room for PXG’s new DualCOR Material.

Boom, segue.

Impact Reactor, Xtreme DualCOR Technology

At the literal core of PXG’s new iron technology is what the company calls Impact Reactor Technology Powered by a DualCOR Technology. Guys, I don’t name this stuff. Here’s hoping it doesn’t meltdown, explode, and go Kaboom, Baby!

Sorry…couldn’t help myself.

As golfers, when we hear dual-core, we think golf ball, and that’s not the worst comparison here. In dual-core ball designs, two different materials with different compression properties work in conjunction to optimize performance. A similar principle is at work with PXG’s new material.

PXG’s first 0311 iron featured a TPE (thermoplastic elastomer). It served primarily to support the face and improve feel. The faster ball speeds resulted from the thin face.

The COR2 material used in the GEN2 irons was a bit firmer. It returned a bit more energy to the ball, boosting speeds over the original, but didn’t feel as soft. It’s entirely subjective, and while I personally prefer the feel of the GEN2s, many would say they didn’t feel as good as the original.

The proprietary material in the GEN3 seeks to provide golfers with the proverbial best of both worlds. The DualCOR design features a high strength outer layer which PXG says provides the structural stability necessary to support the face, while a softer inner material dampens vibrations (better feel), and still allows the face to load and unload. My 2 cents; GEN3 feels better than GEN2, or GEN1, for that matter.

The Impact Reactor is the reason why Mike Nicolette, Director and Senior Designer at PXG, says the new irons should be called GEN4. “We skipped an entire generation of performance. It’s leaps and bounds better.” Nicolette credits the new irons for giving him upwards of 7-yards more distance. “I’m  62, it’s not coming back,” he said. “The only way I can keep up is with something better, and this is better.”

So, where is the performance boost coming from?

According to PXG, the new material yields more than twice the face deflection of COR2, which creates an additional 2-3 MPH of ball speeds. In an apples to apples comparison (same loft, same shaft), the result is 5-8 more yards. During my fitting, I saw more ball speed and just a bit over 4-yards more distance. As with so much of what we discuss, your actual mileage may vary.

If you’re wondering what exactly this new DualCOR material is, prepare to leave here unfulfilled. I can tell you that the inner material feels (and bounces) a bit like a superball. Unfortunately, beyond stating that the material can’t be injected and is difficult to get inside the clubhead, PXG isn’t saying what the material is or how they get it inside.

HT1770 Face

As it has in the past, PXG is leveraging HT1770 maraging steel as its face material. I know this metallurgy stuff is boring, so I’ll be quick about it. All you need to understand is that the material is extremely durable, and with the help of PXG’s latest iteration of goo filling, can be formed into a face that’s only 1.5mm thick – the thinnest in golf.

It’s the sort of thing that’s easily overlooked or discounted as not particularly meaningful. Still, it’s worth pointing out that, as a whole, the industry is continuously looking to produce the thinnest faces it possibly can. Here we are 4.5 years or so after the original 0311 irons launched, and while everybody’s faces have gotten thinner, nobody has managed to produce one as thin as PXG’s.

The internal side of the face features a CNC Milled perimeter channel. The channel reduces thickness in the milled area to 1.2mm. The idea is to increase the loading and loading of the face at impact while helping to preserve as much ball speed as possible when you don’t hit the center of the face. “It’s hot when you miss,” says Brad Schweigert. I’d agree with that.

During my fitting, I was working the toe side of center quite a bit. Ball speed and distance held up exceptionally well (particularly with the XP), and it wasn’t until I moved to the T that I started to notice a drop-off.

CNC Milled Grooves

CNC groove milling is often reserved for wedges where optimizing spin is central to nearly every conversation. It should also go without saying that maintaining proper spin characteristics is an integral part of iron performance as well, and that becomes especially true with the stronger lofts of modern clubs. There is also a precision element in play here as well. The real benefit of milling is that it narrows manufacturing variances, which allows engineers to set design targets that are closer to the USGA limit.

Satin Nickel/Chrome Plating

The 0311 GEN3 irons are finished with a low glare nickel/chrome plating. It looks like most any other quality finish you’d find on the iron rack. I only bring it up because it’s your only option. The new design won’t be offered in Xtreme Dark.

Robotic Polishing

If you read our Cobra Speedzone driver story, some of this is going to sound familiar. In traditional multi-piece constructions, factory workers hand polish the welds. As we’ve discussed previously, polishing is a fun little euphemism for grinding, and when you’re dealing in any kind of real volume, grinding isn’t particularly precise.

To yield a more consistent product with tighter tolerances, all PXG 0311 GEN3 heads are robotically polished.

CNC Milled Back

The back surface of PXG’s GEN3 irons is CNC milled. Milling bodies is all the rage right now, and it does add a bit of detail that suggests an evolution in a way that the DualCOR tech hidden on the inside can’t, but it’s also has a performance benefit. By milling away material from the back of the club, PXG can thin the body beyond what is attainable through forging alone. As with most golf tech stories, it boils down to saving weight from parts of the club where it isn’t needed, so it can be used elsewhere to improve performance.

Signature Weights

Finally, it wouldn’t be an 0311 without PXG’s signature weights. In addition to providing the signature PXG aesthetic, Tungsten weights offer a robust means to alter swing weights without resorting to tip weights that invariably shift the center of gravity (and with it, the sweet spot) towards the heel.

Performance…For the Right Demographic

While performance improvements are almost invariably incremental, unburdened from the need to land on an arbitrary retail price point, PXG’s engineers have greater freedom to design the best club they possibly can without constraint. “We’re not trying to engineer cost out,” says Schweigert, “because that would mean engineering performance out.”

AT $425 a club, PXG hasn’t engineered so much as a penny out of the cost, and that likely puts the GEN3 irons beyond what many golfers are willing to pay. No doubt Bob Parsons is comfortable with that. PXG says the higher prices are the consequence of a business model that eschews mass distribution in favor of a more personalized approach. “There are costs associated with how we fit and deliver the product,” says Brad Schweigert. “But we’re trying to provide the golfer with an experience they don’t get when they walk into Dick’s or Superstore.”

The experience has always been, and will always be, part of the PXG story. Some understand that and are willing to pay a premium for it. Others find it ridiculous. Either way, PXG’s success has left little doubt that there are more than enough conspicuous consumers hungry to fill their bags with something more exotic than middle of the market brands can offer.

Maybe that’s you. Maybe it isn’t. Either way, PXG is what it is.

PXG’s 0311 GEN3 Irons are available now. Retail price is $425 per club. For more information, visit PXG.com.

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      Grant

      2 years ago

      I’d be interested in seeing a comparison of the PXG Gen 3 P, and the Honma TR21-X. Has anybody hit both of them? I’d be interested in your thoughts, as these are two of the models that I’m considering.

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      Critter

      2 years ago

      Just look at the specs and loft specs…. Most quality golf irons today are equal when the specs are the same. People get so hung-up on the hype! Max USGA ball speeds were maxed out 15 yrs ago.

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      Curtis

      2 years ago

      I was fitted and bought the Gen 3 0311 xp 5 to gw for 1100 Canadian. TM 790 were more money then these so were the mizunos. The feel is like butter and the fitting is great they get all your gaps perfect and give you the Shaft that you need. Spin was high distance long and angle was perfect to land softly on the green. That’s what I was looking for in an iron. Off center hits felt fine and still went straight. I wouldn’t pay 3000 for any set but getting a set that the numbers work for 1100 dollars no matter what the brand is is what every golfer needs.

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      JOHN

      3 years ago

      I read all of the comments, and the opinions seem to be pretty strong one way or the other. I game PXG clubs. No I can’t afford 425 an iron but I got a pretty killer deal buying the gen 3’s right after the gen 4’s came out and getting the heroes pricing. I can honestly say they probably aren’t worth 425 a club unless you have more money than sense but for 150 a club, I’ve never hit anything better. As a matter of fact, I have hit plenty of OEM clubs that cost significantly more than they are worth.

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      Juice

      3 years ago

      I got the same deal and said if not now when? At 61 I need a little more pop. My kid shoots the distances for me and I found out the little son of a gun was adding 10
      yards to everything so I wouldn’t come up short. Haven’t hit them yet, but they are waiting for me at the house.

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      Caseyj15

      3 years ago

      Now that the Gen 3 clubs are selling for $149 a club what now? They are the same $$$ club that now sell for the same as everyone else’s less engineered and custom looking product.

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      Nacken

      3 years ago

      Same here. I had them built (+3° Up, +1 Inch, -1° Loft) exactly like my old iron set, ordered online at the price tag of around 1500€, which is nearly the same price as a new Titleist or TM set. So why not spend the same amount of money on better looking irons filled (ha ha) with some nice technology!?

      btw: Gen 3 beats (imo) the Gen 4 in looks by lengths!

      William Dickman

      3 years ago

      Got to believe all the complaining comes from hacks that carry a ball retriever to fish balls from the ponds .Too cheap to buy new balls. Wearing those cheap plastic off brand golf shoes , you know those guys always got a rag hanging out of thier back pocket. Some people drive old used cars and buy cheap used clubs . For me I just enjoy my PXG Gen 3’s even when they are just in the trunk of my new BMW 575. Each to their own. Bill Dickman.

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      David

      3 years ago

      Face facts. The best players in the world are not playing PXG, so any hack thinking this is the secret sauce that is going to improve your scoring and fix your swing flaws it won’t. Do I believe you’ll be better using these than other irons? Probably not. That being said, I don’t care how people spend their money. If you like them, want them, and can afford them, go for it.

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      Nacken

      3 years ago

      The best players in the world play other brands cause they are paid to do so. And many of them don’t even use the “real” clubs (instead have them custom-built and the brand design is applied). So: the number of guys using Titleist, Callaway or else is not a got litmus test if a brand makes good clubs.

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      Kevin Meeks

      1 month ago

      Wrong. Several tour winners playing PXG irons on tour now but it is true they don’t pay a lot of players to play their clubs like the top 3 or 4 manufacturers do.

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      Bill Dickman

      3 years ago

      Man up , get the clubs , be happy again!! Simply the greatest irons ever made ….PERIOD!!!

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      William Dickman

      3 years ago

      Password: PXG. Response: Nobody makes golf clubs like we do PERIOD!!!

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      mackdaddy9

      4 years ago

      Thanks for this review. I went to Club Champion and had a full bag fitting. The irons that were best for my numbers wise were the 0311P’s they were also the club that felt the best for me. I nearly choked at the price. Then I did the math. The irons I have been playing since my last fitting were also considered expensive at $215 per club at the time. I played them for the last 13 years. So if I play these clubs for the same time they will cost me less per year than I could spend on balls at $50 buck a dozen! I have the money and play about 3-4 times a week. Over 100 rounds a year for 13 years my clubs will cost me way less than I will pay for balls over the same time period. That is why I pay to get a full bag fitting, I want to play the best clubs for my game!!! I bet many of you will pay more over the next 10 years on clubs than I did for my PXG’s and play way worse. I swear by professional club fitting. Golf is not a cheap game. It all comes down to where you want to spend your cash. I think those of you that think the money is better spent on lessons maybe it is for you. I play to a low single digit handicap and will be 60 on my next birthday. Since my last fitting and this one my driver swing speed has gone from 112 down to 99 and I am about a club and a half shorter with my irons now. So for those of you that make cracks about just using the next club up just wait until father time starts to steal you power. I went from hitting a 7 iron 170 for most of my life to hitting it about 155. The PFG irons get me back to a 7 iron at 170 and still have the same spin to stop like my old 7 iron does. The PXG 7 iron has 215 more average revs than my KZG irons. The loft difference is only 2 degrees and the Fujikura Pro 75 shafts play a big part in the distance improvement. I understand you may not be able to afford to play the best gear available for your game because your budget won’t let you but don’t shiit on something just because you can’t afford it. That’s like saying, playing one of the 100 greatest courses is the same as playing your local Muni.

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      Tony Cerone

      3 years ago

      Unless you play at Torrey Pines!

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      Carp

      4 years ago

      After researching quite a few reviews two things stood out the most.
      One they are expensive
      Two they are excellent, maybe the best you have ever hit.
      That being said , l found an excellent set of used 0331T and they are the best I’ve ever had..
      Scratch golfer previous clubs, Mizuno mp67, Titleist 680, TM 790 , to me not even close and l used to love each of my old sets.

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      Don

      4 years ago

      I’m scheduled for a fitting August 11, so still have some time. Excellent review and in depth view into the construction and design, thanks!!

      One question I did not see asked or answered though; How is distance consistency? Came to mind when reading about the ultra thin face and inner core material. I know it’s been discussed to a degree in the comments but not as a direct question.

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      Jassen

      4 years ago

      Honestly, if there was anything to nitpick on, it would be that topic. My Gen 1s, great shot to slight mishit, within 5-7yds… gen 3, a poor 7 iron shot is 140, a clean one can be upwards of 165… much tougher for me to rely on distance performance. 9 and stock W almost return identical yardage for me, despite Loft difference… go figure. I love their feel, look, and distance (on good shots), but I found gen 1 more reliable.

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      jurry de vries

      4 years ago

      I must honestly admit that I am surprised how much vinegar some have mixed into their replies. If you don’t like them, fine and don’t buy them, if you belief they are not worth the spent, fine and don’t buy them. That doesn’t, IMHO, warrant some of the comments that were flat out insulting.

      But putting all that aside, my wife and I started playing golf an odd 8-9 years ago. 4 years ago we both switched to PXG and it did 2 things, one was expected, the other not.

      Our game improved, shots became more reliable and more importantly, the ball started to go where I was aiming, a whole new experience I can tell you.

      The second thing however is that these clubs gave more “joy”, we just like how they look and feel.

      And yes, I have ordered the new GEN 3, but contrary to many I don’t belief they are expensive, its a lot of money thats for sure, but worth the performance and the look and feel.

      And as far as marketing is concerned: I can understand some find the phrase: “we make the best clubs ever, period” bit over the top and I would agree if it was only marketing but it isn’t.

      For me, PXG has done a lot to my game performance and enjoyment so Ill stick to the brand and upgrade to GEN 3

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      George

      4 years ago

      Way out of my price range, but they are very interesting clubs. I like the industrial design. I’m sure they’d be easy to hit. I have a set of Cobra Speedzone irons. They hit the ball a long way.. I can hit a 7 iron 175 yards and the longer irons even further than that. I have no need for fairway woods.. I am satisfied. with what I have, but if I saw a set of these at a more reasonable price, I would buy them. Cheers

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      William Dickman

      4 years ago

      Been a scratch handicap golfer for 40 years. Had 12 sets of new clubs over the last 15 years. Tried them all. Bottom line , if your not playing PXG’s ….. your just playing hockey ! Just call your banker, refinance your house and be HAPPY again. William Dickman.

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      Kevin

      4 years ago

      Bottom Line: If two golfers are on the tee of a 175 yard Par 3 and one golfer hits it to 3 feet with a 7 iron and the other golfer hits it to 3 feet with a 4 iron, which one is the better golfer? The one who makes the putt. It’s never been about how far a particular iron goes, it’s KNOWING how far it goes. P.S. I missed the dang putt!

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      Jeff

      4 years ago

      Kevin change that to a 200 yard par 3 then. A 5 iron vs a 3 wood becomes a much different conversation in terms of sticking a green. Distance does have value in some cases.

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      Scoreboard

      4 years ago

      Last time I play a round of golf, the person with the lowest score walked away with the cash.
      Forget about the sticks, it’s about numbers of strokes and not dollars spent.
      Invest in practicing from 100 yards and closer, which none of this sets of irons will help you.
      Take the extra money and invest it in a golf trip with your buddies. Just sayin…

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      Jim A

      4 years ago

      When it comes to PXG, I get it and don’t at the same time. I’ve don’e extended testing with GEN 1 and GEN 2 “P’s’. Yes, the faces are hot and ball speeds are high. But on the course, I just can’t get over rhe sole width and its high bounce. I’ve never met a digger whose angle of attack was so steep they’d need this much bounce. So I don’t understand whose swing these are supposed to suit.

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      MGoBlue100

      4 years ago

      “But we’re trying to provide the golfer with an experience they don’t get when they walk into Dick’s or Superstore.” FYI: If you get fit for golf clubs at a Dick’s Sporting Goods, you deserve what you get. Some Superstore’s and a few Golf Galaxy’s, okay.
      Plus: Man, a lot of hate on here. Where do you all find the time? Get outside, play some golf and get some fresh air.

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      Dave

      4 years ago

      Thank you for another informative article, I continue to use MGS as my goto for golf equipment news. I think anyone considering purchasing new clubs go to a reputable fitter and test a variety of clubhead and shaft combinations. As for price, it is what it is, just like cars, watches, and many other consumables. There’s a customer at every price point, it’s really up to the individual to decide amongst the myriad of choices.

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      John Smith

      4 years ago

      Take a lesson from a truly talented pro , get fitted properly, try some shafts that are outside your comfort zone, PRACTICE, learn to hit it on the sweet spot as opposed to all over the face, and any players performance club will provide similar or same results. There is no magic 10 yards per club gain without a compromise on spin, decent angle, etc. This is ALL marketing and every company pushes the same “quick fix”. Pay attention to the results of the MGS testing and you will see there is no magic here. I purchased and played 790’s, I 500’s and 919 Tour’s last year alone. The results club to club were negligible. I found a lot more opportunity for gain changing shafts. Put a 130 x on any club with a mid swing speed and your decent angle will be about 20 degrees as you watch it skip across the green. I feel everyone should buy what the want, what they like to look at, what adds to the enjoyment of the game. My rub is against the false advertising that misleads people year in and year out and I am totally against false claims pushing average pricing up on the industry as a whole. Pay attention to the testing, it may set accurate expectations and you may avoid buying 3 premium sets in one season in search of the marketing claims which prove to be a dead end. My new personal strategy is to get a club I like (790’s today) and if I am looking for any result, change out the shaft and see where that leads. It is a lot cheaper and has been an eye opener in terms of the variables determined by the shaft alone.

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      Paul

      4 years ago

      ? ? Very true

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      Chris

      4 years ago

      Hi, another way to look at this is to get properly fit relative to your ability..
      I have been fitted by callaway and ping at their national fitting centres plus over the years numerous mobile fitters.
      I completely agree the shaft is very important ant in every fit. The price point of clubs provided by the majority of OEMs is driven by compromise.
      That is limiting the shafts available, limiting the shaft quality by using built for shafts that look similar to but do not play like the real deal particularly in drivers, and limiting the amount of adjustment in terms of club length,
      And attainable swing weight based upon shaft selection.

      The club specs offered are what the OEMs deem to offer a range of options that they believe will offer a reasonable fit for the majority.

      It’s like buying a suit with mix and match trousers and jackets.
      A big part of what PXG offer is afiiting process with shaft selection and individual shaft choice and club adjustment on a par with what the other OEMs offer their tour players.. Like buying a bespoke suit.

      If you put a premium shaft in any other OEM driver you are at or past the PXG price point (PXG only offer premium shafts not made for).
      Anyone who wants to rubbish PXG needs first to experience their custom fit process to understand the differences proper fitting makes.

      Whether or not you feel the cost justifies any visible gains is your individual choice.
      .

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      chris

      4 years ago

      or grab a set of vintage mizuno t-zoids (anybody?) on ebay for $70

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      BeachBum

      4 years ago

      I wasn’t really interested in PXG until I read all the hate. Now I’m going to buy a set. A product that gets people this emotionally upset has to be great!
      I have tried the Gen2 SGI and they were the most forgiving and best feeling game improvement iron I’ve ever used since I started golfing almost 30 years ago. My guess is… most people are pissed off at the price because the guys that own PXGs generally love them. If they weren’t well-loved by PXG owners, nobody would care. I’m fan of PXG, I’m a fan of Bob Parsons and I really like the way they run and manage their business; my fitting is booked and they’ll be getting my hard-earned money.

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      Bob

      4 years ago

      Buying clubs to spite strangers on the internet? … ok.

      Beachbum, you tried Gen2 SGI—did you buy them? What are you golfing with now?

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      Jeff

      4 years ago

      Like buying an inferior car for twice the money……Oh yeah. Tesla has proven that there really IS a sucker born every minute.
      PXG the latest to jump on the sucker bandwagon.

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      Chris V

      4 years ago

      I got a set of GEN 3 0311T’s early and absolutely love them. When I was shopping for new irons I was comparing P7TW, P790s, MP20s, Ping i210s, Blueprints, and the full Titleist line. PXGs gave me the distance I wanted, and forgiveness on off-center strikes I wanted. MP20 blades had the best feel, but the distance wasn’t there for me like I got from the 0311T’s. Lots of great irons for late 2019/early 2020 for all different budgets.

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      Jeff

      4 years ago

      “The distance I wanted”?

      What does that even mean? News flash. Theres a club in every set that carries the ball the distance that yu are from the pin. The number stamped on the sole means noth. Spin, trajectory, accuracy, feel mean something.

      Chirping about distance proves that you’ve been drinking the marketing Kool Aid.

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      Bob

      4 years ago

      Personally, I’m waiting for PXG’s next product launch and marketing campaign, “Birdie more holes with our custom-fitted golf shoes. $425 a shoe.”

      TK

      4 years ago

      You seem to be one of the haters with a negative or sarcastic reply to everyone who’s said anything positive. There are differences in clubs (and shafts) in terms of feel, distance, spin (even for the same loft). Your input had nothing to do with PXG (except to disparage a club you obviously don’t own), and everything about belittling others’ opinions.
      I’m sure you’ll have some excellent comeback to this response…but save your finger work?

      Robert

      4 years ago

      Every good golfer wants a specific club to go a specific distance. I prefer graphite because of a sports injury years ago. Most companies don’t offer a lot to test in graphite in their fitting carts. At PXG there’s 4 or 5 companies graphite shafts with a range from each. Really helps to get that kind of fitting for me. Doesn’t hurt that Gen 3 is providing top performance in iron heads too. As good and most likely better than the competition.

      Bob

      4 years ago

      TK,
      If you notice, I don’t disparage the club. If it’s good, it’s good. And really, it’s not my place to criticize you and anyone else who chooses to buy themselves a set of irons. So I don’t.

      My comments are reserved for the company itself. BMWs, MBs, Audis, Lexuses—they’re all worth the price that someone is willing to pay. PXG, though—premium price, without the club to prove it’s worth it. Otherwise, it’d be a most wanted club, wouldn’t it?

      As an average consumer, I can’t really do a side-by-side comparison, as I can with other club makers. And that’s because PXG treats itself like an auto dealership. They think a customer walks on the lot, and they’re halfway to buying a set. Nothing new, really.

      Jimmy

      4 years ago

      Due to some physical injuries and the reality of turning 40, I’ve lost nearly a club and a half of iron distance in the past couple of years. It has put HUGE pressure on my game & it would really help me to get some of that distance back without having to resort to switching to a harder, less controllable golf ball. A hotter face club at the same length is easier to control than going up a club. The problem is that most hot faces are way hotter in the middle (the famous P790 nuke ball). I’m trying the alternative of regaining speed by going to a lighter shaft & so far it’s been a disaster for me. I went from Project X LZ to Steelfiber i95cw and I feel like I have no idea where my hands are and my swing path is radically less consistent. I had the same experience when I tried lighter driver shafts. Just totally lost.

      What PXG is trying to accomplish is get the hotter ball speed while maintaining very consistent COR and spin rates across the face so distance remain a consistent. I don’t know if they’ve succeeded because I haven’t tried them yet, but it’s interesting & no reason to hate on them.

      Caseyj15

      3 years ago

      The distance gapping must be integrated with the wedges the set has.

      Odie

      4 years ago

      These must be new.

      Is PXG a Dick’s House Brand?

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      NH Golfer

      4 years ago

      LMAO

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      scott

      4 years ago

      Okay they cost more then most and they work well, I guess but don’t all major brands do the same for less cost.. I win not because I can hit a 7 iron 150 yards ( I don’t ) I win because I know how far each club carry’s so just because a new set of irons carry’s 3 yards farther then my old set it’s not going to make any difference in my game or does it ?

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      Robert

      4 years ago

      Apparently forged feel, looks like a blade and distance like a GI iron. I’d be interested to see spin numbers and decent angle on the 31 loft 7 iron. Some other manufactures have followed with the hollow body irons, but it’s the usual trade off of reduced spin for distance.. I prefer spin and height, so I’d be interested in these irons if they provide both with extra distance. If not I’ll stay with my i210 irons. that have the right amount of spin and height with good distance..

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      Justus

      4 years ago

      They should not depend on Arnold Schwarzenegger alone in the Art Direction department. I like that PXG wants to push innovation, but for real all of the major brands do that with the same drive and energy. All the PXG claims are extremely disrespectful to the industry, when I think of Mizuno and their modesty and performance compared to that, I really much rather own multiple Mizuno sets than buying one set of PXGs and risking my girlfriend leaving me for my irresponsible use of funds on golf equipment. She would say donate some money for charity instead of spending 10k on a bag of golf clubs. Or at least spend 10k on golf lessons with a pro!

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      Golfan

      4 years ago

      If someone is able to drop $10K on irons, they’re likely in a financial situation where they’re able to donate far more than that to charitable endeavors…..and if they’re not a raging DB, likely do so. Stop the hate.

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      Berniez40

      4 years ago

      Great article as per usual. Hey—What can I say?—Haters Gonna Hate. Even so, I find these Irons intriguing and can’t wait to see MGS put them to the test. No I am not PXG’s target customer by any stretch, but I am a lover of innovation. No screws are not new, but the way that they are now used in PXG Irons has made them.innovative enough for plenty of other makers to copy.
      Besides, PXG is innovative in “The Business Mode”, sense of the word. For those of you that were around anywhere from 5-10 years ago, the business model everyone was hating on back then was the exact opposite of the ‘Exclusivity’ one that PXG is banking on. TaylormMade was not only a subdivision of Adidas, but they were the constant target of derision here on MGS. They weren’t bringing out a new model every other year—they were doing it twice a year, and sometimes even more often than that. Rather than exclusivity–they were trying desperately to be everything to everyone, and throwing up false claims about an extra 20 yards every year. Man did they get the hate on this site. (Often times they deserved it, but not always).
      I’ve had the good fortune to actually sample a few PXG Clubs as they hit the used bins at certain big box stores. I will give them a rock solid “A” for effort, and a “B+” for execution.
      The putters are like butter, and they really roll the rock well. The drivers are a tad short, but their forgiveness is off the charts, and again–the feel is superb. So far I’ve found the wedges to be a tad harsh–but scoring clubs are defiitely a subjective matter when it comes to feel. The irons so far, have hit me about the same as the drivers….a little short, good feel, but still right on the cusp of something very special.
      The price alone keeps me away, but the cajones it took to launch that company at the bottom of the golf market, and with the business model that was followed is at least deserving of my respect. I am no less guilty than many of the TaylorMade Haters of not so long ago who populated this site. I had a huge Love/Hate Realation with all of their clubs—Drivers, Irons, Putters, and Wedges. I still bag an M-4 Driver- though I dumped thier Hokey OEM White Tie Shaft for a real life Kuro Kage. I don’t have the money to develop that type of relationship with PXG, though I suspect if I did, it might end up being a very similar type of relationship even though I wouldn’t have to pay through the nose to upgrade to a real shaft vs. an OEM wannabe. I know of no companty that can be all clubs to all people. Even Titleist and Callaway have brought in boutique wedge and putter makers., and I know plenty of peo;le who swear by Ping bui bag Scotty, Odyssey, or Bettinardi Putters.

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      Robert E

      4 years ago

      Great looking clubs . I love the obvious looks being able to combo these with the earlier models. I cant say these are 8 yards longer but what I can say is that I personally gained 1 club in distance from my previous clubs . I love my PXGs and will definitely give these new ones a try.

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      Brain Twerk

      4 years ago

      So let me get this right if you can’t afford these clubs you hate them and hate anybody that uses them I suppose.. why read an article to comment about a product that you can’t afford and then you just bad mouth.? I will be hitting these tomorrow and come back and give my opinion of them without making anyone who can afford them feel bad,. F-+king children!!

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      Mark.M

      4 years ago

      Amen Brother!

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      Jeff

      4 years ago

      Ranting that anyone who doesn’t see a reason would to pay twice as much for a product that hasn’t proven to be on even the equal of it’s competitors can be assumed to be poor?

      Who’s a child?

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      Rob

      4 years ago

      Your F–king Children Comment was golden. Probably the most spot on assessment I’ve read on the internet in a long time.

      The only thing I might add, Is I doubt most of those children don’t take the time to read a very well written article, but just immediately go to the comments but to sound off on something they have no clue about. …all in the name of sounding high and mighty.

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      John Smith

      4 years ago

      KaBOOM BABY- That is the sound of me slamming my wallet shut

      Just received this from PXG as a direct solicitation via email

      Introducing PXG 0311 GEN3 Irons. Drop dead sexy and powered by our new Impact Reactor, GEN3 Irons deliver game-changing distance and outstanding accuracy with a feel so soft, it’s like spreading warm butter on a hot biscuit. Oh my!

      Game changing distance, never heard that claim before. Where is the speed foam? They might be 10 yards longer with some foam. What a crock. $500 per club!!!! I hope they eat everyone before we are all paying $1000 for Wilson 300’s

      Get these on the launch monitor quickly before someone falls for this junk

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      joro

      4 years ago

      Like PT Barnum said, “there is a sucker born every minute” and to most pricey is just an ego thing.

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      rh

      4 years ago

      Too many complain before trying or even seeing. I can say have never even seen any in play locally. Many foreign sports cars are expensive and high maintenance and often have less performance than a Vette, but they still sell. I WOULD like to try a set but it doesnt mean I will buy them. But then again I am open minded to it. And for the record there are many brands and models that don’t apeal to me, so I bought what I like.

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      Stephen

      4 years ago

      I had a chance to hit these last night. First off, they’re the nicest looking PXG iron yet. They are in no way classic irons like the Mizuno MP20 line, but I think they’re much more elegant than the two prior generations.

      I hit the P version, and when you hit the sweet spot it’s much softer than the prior generation as well. Really great feel. You can also tell where you are missing. Good feedback.

      I definitely hit these longer than my current irons. Probably time for my Ping I20s to be upgraded. Not to the PXGs of course. Like so many others it’s not a luxury I can afford, but it’s good to see PXG thrive and push technology forward. They’re certainly fun to hit every once in a while!

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      ComeOnSense

      4 years ago

      Please don’t promote products that damage the game with their overpriced empty promises..They don’t help grow the game.
      They havent help Lydia either.

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      Gerald Teigrob

      4 years ago

      I agree , Commonsense! Neither do I expect to see any pros winning with these cadillac irons…or more like Lexus irons! I have been open in the past but now have become brand loyal over the years! Unless it has Cobra’s stamp on it, or TaylorMade’s, I’m not big on ugly designs in the game improvement arena. I will stick with my Bio Cells, F6s and F8s in due time! PGX is not the best golf club out there…period! And their commercials are far too arrogant for my liking! Nobody makes anything this expensive, unless you are Homna!

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      J.R. Buttercut

      4 years ago

      Could you do a follow up article in the future that discusses shaft options (steel and graphite) for these irons?

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      MGoBlue100

      4 years ago

      Thank you for inserting an actual question into all of this…. whatever this is.

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      Ryan

      4 years ago

      I am a fan of pxg. I love the fact that saw an opportunity in the market and took a chance. I too can’t afford these clubs. Yet I root for this company to succeed.

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      pje

      4 years ago

      Barf!
      No one makes clubs like PXG…except everyone else.
      $ 425 for a single iron. F___ Off.

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      BSD

      4 years ago

      Why would anything that you’re not going to buy, extract such an emotional response from you? Some drive Chevy’s, some drive Mercedes.

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      Gerald Teigrob

      4 years ago

      I agree…so some here like Chevys and some like Lamborghinis. why do we have to like PGX so much? How much has it helped Pat or Billy Horschel or the like? Since when was PGX the ONLY golf company on the planet? Their advertising smacks of arrogance. Huge mistake!

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      Kevin

      4 years ago

      I’m surprised these don’t cost a bit more given that they were apparently successful with the Gen1 and 2. I wouldn’t look these myself, but honestly their 0211 irons and latest driver are interesting as they don’t cost much more than any other major OEM. Start with high end clubs for the 1% and then transition to clubs for the “upper middle class” is perhaps not a bad strategy.

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      John Smith

      4 years ago

      I hate to be a hater but these look like a lug wrench to me for $500 each!!!!
      Show me the performance differences when compared to any other player performance club such as 790’s or I500’s and I will back off. For now this is strictly a STATUS club in my opinon. I see not advantage whatsover to justify the cost differential. ALL MARKETING-

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      Jonas

      4 years ago

      Length doesn’t really matter – they’re all custom and during the process the master fitter measures all of this. Loft doesnt really matter either, bc I have a mixed bag of Gen2’s and we screwed with all of that stuff.

      I won’t be picking these up, but they look damn good. Sign me up for Gen4 :)

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      Jerry

      4 years ago

      Nice looking irons and if you can keep a set of irons for 5-7 years, it pays off. I don’t keep irons that long. I was in on PXG at $325/iron and it was a mistake. Kept them 3 season but that’s not a payoff. Good luck to those – I just don’t see the performance value as compared to other makers, let’s say Mizuno! Probably the best value performance package irons out there.. But the PXG? Handsome.

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      John

      4 years ago

      More smoke and mirrors.

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      Jeff

      4 years ago

      PXG really took Zach Johnson’s game to another level………..

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      Dennis

      4 years ago

      The XP’s have very strong lofts and the shafts are half an inch longer than the other offerings. This is no different than what other manufacturers do to create the illusion of more distance and why would you make the shafts half an inch longer when the target audience for that particular model already has difficulty making consistent center contact?

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      Lewis

      4 years ago

      I agree on the longer length…seems shorter would be better for control for “game improvement”…I’m confused…

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      TR1PTIK

      4 years ago

      This is the first PXG release that I would gladly sign up for… If I could afford it. I don’t have a problem with the asking price, but it is too rich for my blood at the moment. The good news of course is that other OEMs will see what PXG is doing and start experimenting with their own designs at a lower price point just like we’ve already seen. Keep pushing the limits PXG!

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      Bowser

      4 years ago

      I just love how you knew what the comments would be in the first paragraph…and yes too expensive given many regular golfers budgets.

      Now to my point on how folks here might complain about the power holes in a Wilson D7 but won’t mention what I think are ugly screws on a club. These clubs do not look ‘sexy’ to me especially if I were to pay what they want for them… which in Canada would be $630 per iron!!!

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      Jassen T

      4 years ago

      …and some people find Ferrari’s ugly, yet others sleep better with the Prius’ MPG and cost! And yet enough people want, love, and are willing to pay for a Ferrari, who have a loooong waitlist! Love my PXG GEN1s and regularly disappointed when I try to hit other good clubs. Will upgrade in few weeks to Gen 3; MGS Feedback quite valuable here. Thanks for another great write up boys!

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      Bowser

      4 years ago

      Jassen I agree with your points and that is my point. We all get to like what we like and I’m glad you like your irons. Fro perspective I have never seen one ‘live’… Never seen one on course and never seen one anywhere else. I might like hitting them but still wouldn’t spend the cash (and I can say that about many high end clubs).

      I would also argue that there are those would never hit anything other than a blade and stoop down to a GI iron (even if it would improve their game). Also there are those who would never think of hitting or buying a Tour Edge, Maltby, or other lower priced club (even if it might hit just as well as a high end club).

      In the end we are all in some way a ‘golf snob’ whether it be the ball we hit, would never hit, or clubs we buy or would never buy. And that is why there are many offerings.

      Keep up the good work MGS.

      John Smith

      4 years ago

      STATUS IRONS- I can spend the most so I must be a great player. That seems to be the message. With max limitations on COR essentially you are looking at a design using weight ports to move manage weight and the COG. Am I to believe that Mizuno, Taylormade and Titleist can not manage COG with their forged and cast design options at half the price?? This seems like a total status play to me and I will be interested to see the results of the performance tests. My guess is you may be paying $2000 extra for no performance advantage whatsoever.

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      Jimmy

      4 years ago

      No one’s irons are anywhere near the COR limit. Hardly any 3-woods even are (TM’s 2020 offering might be close though). The priorities are different with irons.

      PXG easily could’ve made these even faster than they are. The technical challenge is getting them as hot as possible without being shovels, while maintaining consistent ball speed in as large as face area as possible. Otherwise your distance distortion is so bad that they’re unplayable.

      Despite being hugely popular, the 1st Gen P790s had this problem. Dead-middle contact sent the ball another ten yards than anywhere else. Mizuno tried to eliminate this in the Hot Metal by making the face a little thicker right in the middle to slow it down/get speed consistent across the face.

      PXGs aren’t cheap but Titleist & Mizuno’s top-end offerings aren’t that much cheaper if you do a full custom build. I got fit through Club Champion & ended up at $2k for 5-PW of MP-20 HMBs with Steelfibers. Titleist T100 or T200 would’ve been about the same price. These PXGs would be $2,550 (their price includes fitting & custom shafts). ~20% over the market for higher-end clubs.

      Bob

      4 years ago

      Jimmy, I get what you’re saying—except that Mizuno makes a better iron than PXG. So the final question is, are they worth the extra $550?

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