This article comes to you today because of all the confusion going on right now about the {New Groove Rule by the USGA}. Not many people know what it really means…and don’t worry if you don’t because neither did we until Terry Koehler set us and hopefully you straight about all the real truth behind the new rule.
Also you might have heard that they are actually considering postponing the ruling due to all the issues it will cause with manufacturers. In fact Stewart Cink just Twitter’ed that he just went into the Groove rule meeting a few minutes ago and that they would have an answer in a couple hours. That meeting has just actually ended and they have decided to go ahead with the current ruling and the date it is enforced. So now that it is official he is an in depth explanation from the WedgeGuy himself.
Setting the Facts Straight on Grooves
By Terry Koehler
President, EIDOLON Golf, LLC and
www.TheWedgeGuy.com
The golf media generally is pretty thorough and accurate when it comes to such things as equipment and equipment rules. But in regards to the U.S. Golf Association’s impending new rule on grooves that is scheduled to go into effect next year, the media is off base. I have never seen such a level of misinformation before in this industry. And I’m betting you’re going to hear a lot more misinformation about the subject of grooves as 2010 approaches.
The media has messed this up so much that even PGA Tour players are talking about “when we go back to V grooves.” Does anyone not read what the USGA published on this???
In addition to reading in several places about “when square grooves are outlawed”, just this past week I received a “scare tactic” promotional email from one of the newer wedge brands, which announced right in the subject line, “USGA To Eliminate Square Grooves”. The email went on to say that:
“The USGA has implemented a rule change that the PGA Tour will adopt for next season, eliminating the use of square grooves on wedges.”
In this case, either this manufacturer didn’t really read what the USGA rule says, or they are just out-and-out lying in an attempt to try to sell you their wedges. I’m going to choose to believe that ignorance, not deception, was their fault here.
So, in the spirit of public (and accurate) information, let me set the record straight about what is going on with the “great groove issue”. With the hard facts, you can be the recognized expert in your group and at your club with regard to what the real story is about the new ruling governing grooves on wedges.
The Big Lie: “Square Grooves Are Being Outlawed.”
The USGA Rule does nothing of the sort. It does not propose to govern at all what the shape of grooves can be, or at least no differently than the current rule. Golf club manufacturers can continue to make clubs with grooves shaped like a “V”, a “U” or “square”. The USGA Rules have previously allowed, and will continue to allow, for a series of “straight grooves” with diverging sides and a symmetrical cross-section. The width and cross-section, according to the rules, “must be consistent” across the face of the club and along the length of the grooves. In other words, grooves can’t be slanted one way or the other to affect spin, nor can they be of inconsistent spacing.
The new rule, as it is currently written, calls for the grooves to be “straight and parallel.” The grooves must have a symmetrical cross-section “and have sides which do not converge.” The width, spacing and cross-section of the grooves “must be consistent” throughout the impact area.
On EIDOLON V-SOLE wedges, as with most others with CNC-milled grooves, the groove sides have a slight draft to them to allow the cutter to work more efficiently. Call it a “modified ‘V’” if you will. Most cast-in-place grooves have a “U” shape, as the sharp corners in the bottom of the grooves are filled in during the casting process.
The new rule does not require club manufacturers to rely only on ‘V’ grooves. Oh, and the rule doesn’t only apply to wedges, but to all clubs with 24 degrees of loft or more
Changes The Way Faces & Grooves Are Manufatured
But the new Rules do change the way club faces and grooves must be manufactured in order to comply, and the wording has three substantive parts.
- First, it changes the way manufacturers have to measure our grooves and spacing. Up to now, we only had to concern ourselves with the groove width, depth and space between the grooves. Those requirements and measurements haven’t changed, but the USGA added a fourth measurement requirement that defines a formula for the volume of groove dimension per inch of face. In simple terms, square grooves would have to be further apart than ‘v’ grooves because they can channel away more grass and moisture.
- Secondly, the rule adds a new aspect, in that we will have to ensure that the edges of the grooves have a slight radius on them (at least a .010” radius to be exact), whereas currently we can offer you the sharp edges that result from the milling process. This is the change that will likely be the key to a reduction in spin from the newly conforming wedges and irons made after the rule goes into effect . . . if it really does go into effect as they would have us believe.
This part of the rule will undoubtedly increase the cost of wedges, as it will take special cutters to impart this radius to the edge of grooves, and a cutter so configured will wear out quicker than those we currently use. Obviously, the foundries and their machine shops will have to build in these costs to the cost of heads they make for all manufacturers. Thanks a lot, USGA.
- Third, and maybe the most important aspect of the new Rule governing grooves, however, is that it allows for a “condition of competition” which says that the implementation of the Rule is up to the tournament committee as to whether or not it is implied. Hmmmmm. And it further suggests that the rule “only be applied to competitions involving ‘expert’ players” – in other words, the PGA Tour and USGA competitions. The USGA has clearly stated that it intends to implement the Rule for its three major open championships in 2010, and all other USGA events in 2014. And the USGA has been very clear that all currently conforming clubs will be approved for play until “at least 2024”!
Here’s where it gets interesting again. As of this writing, the PGA Tour has not decided whether or not it will apply the rule in 2010 or not. In an interview before the US Open, a USGA official said that if the PGA Tour doesn’t apply the rule, then they probably won’t apply it to the U.S. Open, either. And the rumor on the street, as I understand it, says that some major manufacturers are “lobbying” the PGA Tour not to apply the rule in 2010.
And even if the Rule is applied, do you think for a moment that the ball manufacturers won’t produce balls that spin more if the pros ask for it? Remember the old Tour Edition that you couldn’t keep on a green? Maybe that soft cover technology will make a comeback.
This story is going to be well worth watching the next few months, and my bet is that it’s not nearly over yet. I wouldn’t even be surprised if the rule was overturned and rejected entirely.
If the rule does go in next year, EIDOLON and other manufacturers might have to slightly modify our groove shape, width and/or spacing to comply. But the biggest effect of this ruling is that we will all be required to add a radius to the edges of our grooves, so that they will not be as sharp. And if we want our 2010 wedges and irons to be on the USGA List of Conforming Equipment, any heads we make after Jan. 1, 2010 will have to incorporate the new limits.
So What Does This Mean To You?
The USGA hasn’t been elusive about its goal – to make it more important for Tour players to hit the ball in the fairway. For the rest of us, this is really a non-issue as far as whether or not your wedges can continue to be used.
If you are a professional golfer on one of the top tours, or if you plan to try to qualify for one of the three Open Championships, you’ll probably need new conforming wedges by Jan. 1, 2010.
If you plan to qualify for any other USGA championship, you’ll need new conforming wedges by 2014. This might include the top amateur events in the nation as well.
If you don’t play those specific events, you are good to go until at least 2024.
My Take?
First, if the PGA Tour wants to set courses up so its players can shoot 25 under par, let it. The USGA can continue to make its courses 7,500 yards, with 22-yard fairways and greens that don’t allow a dart game, and keep those winning scores around par.
Secondly, you can play the same club and ball as PGA Tour players, but you will never be the short game master those guys are. It’s just fact. Like the ads say, “These guys are good”, and they will learn and perfect new techniques for ball striking to make up for anything the USGA throws at them. You, on the other hand, will have your short game compromised.
And finally, I don’t know for sure how different the new grooves will be from our current ones – as far as how it will affect your ability to generate spin. We still have lots of research to do and we’ll build the very finest wedges in the game, I assure you. But if you are thinking of new wedges, I would not hesitate to suggest that this year just may be the time to buy them.
Richard WAKELING
6 years agowhat about dimple face wedges ?
GolferGirl13
10 years agoAre the Callaway X Series Jaws CC conforming Wedges? I play college golf and need to know if I buy these clubs if they are ok to use…
Brian Branson
10 years agoDo Scratch Wedges meet all the USGA wedge rule..
Liz
10 years agothese videos from exeprt village are like the most awkward videos ever! hahaha i think they do some sort of research on where can they find special need athletes of all kind of sports and give them the opportunity of shooting an educational video. hahaha like this guy on this video. Mr. Awkwardness in person.
gary altman
11 years agoCan ping eye berillium copper l wedges be used in a USGA event?
ben
12 years agoWedge guy,
So my t-zoids with “U” grooves would allow for me to play in a qualifier for the US Open locals??
Thanks for any help.
p.s. any good wedges I might be able to find on EBAY?
Hacker
12 years agoMy question is: As a “hacker”, with a slice/fade (even on my irons) that I’ve never been able to correct, with less spin being imparted on the ball with the “new” grooves will that cause the ball to slice/fade less thereby being an advantage to a guy like myself? (Yes, I’ve had many lessons, but to no avail.)
Jack Graham
12 years agoI am, sadly, still confused. I have a set of v-groove irons and wedges I like, built circa 1997. As they are v-grooves then they should be conforming with the 2010 rule for professionals? Yes? No? Or is there even a new standard for v-grooves?
Seizo
13 years agoWow has this been a controversial rule. I think it won’t really impact most amateurs unless they are planning on playing USGA events. Which is probably less than 1 percent of all golfers. For most ams who don’t spin the ball well, I don’t think they’ll see much of a difference whether from the fairway or the rough. For those who do create a lot of spin and are used to the ball biting, they’ll see a premium put on driving accuracy.
Tim Flaherty
13 years agothanks for the clarification …. this wedge issue is sooooo confusing
tom
12 years agois it a wedge issue or for all irons?
Tom
13 years agoTerry;
Thanks for the informative review! My biggest question is whether my FG-17’s, circa 1983, are still legal to play? They have traditional V-grooves, but I’m not sure if they will meet the other criteria of this rule. Although I like them and have no problem enjoying my game with them, they certainly don’t have any “advantage” over clubs manufactured over the last 25 years. I’m curious if they are still “legal” if I want to compete.
Tom in Omaha
mygolfspy
13 years agoLet us know if Terry does not get back to you and we can send the question directly to him for you.
Raj
9 years agoHi Tom, Did you find whether FG-17′s are conforming or not, Do you still play with them,thanks
Richard Douglas
13 years agoSo is there a list of wedges that do comply with new rules?
m.dull
13 years agoI don’t mind the new rule as I hit is high so i won’t feel much pain. What I hate is I will need to buy a whole new set of irons (5-LW) to keep those pompous jerks happy. Maybe they ARE in league with the club manufactures. I wouldn’t care much if it was just wedges as mine don’t last more than a couple of seasons anyway.
P.Lawrence
13 years agoHow will this rule change affect NCAA players in 2010?
J. W. Hagar
14 years agoAn accurate statement by the producer of “The Best Wedges Money Can Buy”! I would rank his level of knowledgeability on a par with: Stan Thompson, Frank Boynton, Ken Smith & Tony Pena (all masters in the clubmaking art from years gone by). A serious player will learn to play well with what he has and what is available at any point and time!! Skill development with any and all clubs is what makes this “Game” a pleasure and great fun!!
Rob D.
14 years ago“You, on the other hand, will have your short game compromised”
Dear USGA,
My short game is already compromised enough.
Thanks,
Rob
Parker
14 years agoSuch a great article. It really makes sense if you think about it. The shape of the groove doesn’t really matter. It’s how sharp the edges of the grooves are. I wonder how much this will really affect the players out of the rough though.
mygolfspy
14 years agoHey Parker is that your blog…PLAYBETTERGOLF? If so nice work…I did not know you had one.
CJ Bush
14 years agoThis is great. It really helps clarify a lot of the questions I had about the grove change. I have heard so many things over the past few months and this piece lays to rest anything I have heard!
mygolfspy
14 years agoTerry from Eidolon Wedges was very thorough in his explanation. If you have any questions feel free to ask him.