Join the members of the MyGolfSpy staff as we cover a wide range of topics in a post-PGA-show roundtable discussion.
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Brad Garrett
5 years ago
Great discussion. BTW, Adam, what are you drinking?
john
5 years ago
Too much emphasis on hurry hurry hurry… spend more money to make it fast… take all the fun out of the game… we talk about slow play and then say it should be 3:45 and slow people are 6 hours… my experience has been that some people can play in 3:45… and some can’t… long rounds at our course are 4:30… so 45 minutes difference… that time is usually spent at the bar having one more beer. What a GREAT reason to be in a hurry… one more beer… make people hurry for a beer… same as the young people driving their car… blow the horn, give the finger… cause someone is not in the same rush that you are… It’s all about you… and everyone else should just get out of your way… what a great society we’re creating… stop and smell the roses…. slow down and live… the hurry you’re in will get you nowhere and irritate the hell out of those around you…
Emery
5 years ago
Heck yeah John, I so agree. If you don’t have time to play golf do something else. I like taking a casual stroll down the fairway & just take it all in. I think the transcendental aspect of this simple but complex game we play is being lost. “Grow the game of Golf” is all about making more money not necessarily improving or maintaining the spirit of the game many of us enjoy.
Brandon
5 years ago
So what you are saying is that inconveniencing how every many groups who end up getting stacked behind the slow players doesn’t matter as long as the slow guys don’t feel rushed? That sounds way more selfish than the people who prefer to play at a sub 4 hour pace. There are plenty of courses who cater more to beginners and kids where slow play is to be expected. Knowing your abilities and playing courses which suit them would help everyone enjoy the game more.
Emery
5 years ago
No, do not waste time, you can enjoy the walk and still be efficient which I find walking is usually faster for where I play. My club rarely marshals the pace and it’s mostly do to gambling which produces some extremely slow play @the greens.
Stan Lisk
5 years ago
Nice video, who won the money? I think your discussion on slow play was interesting. I am a PGA golf professional and agree on one person car but like mentioned how to make on at 1/2 the cost is needed but hard to attain.
I worked a courses before they had full course cart paths and timed players when they all had to walk with no cars. The average playing time was more than 30 minutes less, When the players split up after leaving the tee it seems to make them ready for their next shot , in club selection etc. Single riding cars could make it faster in that way also. i didn’t see you mention Club Car Visage or the Shark experience which I think would help in managing play and car traffic on courses. Selling Club Car products for 14 years they have been a forerunner in industry, although I’m no longer working since June.
Felipe
5 years ago
Apparently we need more municipal golf courses to spread people out and help the pace of play and create more jobs. Also how about a free half or full bucket of balls, so that people can get their hiccups out at the range and play a little better on the course. This would save some time by saving a few bad shots. That course manager device sounds like it would help a whole lot. If you know you are 20 minutes behind schedule most people will speed up. You are doing great work. Thanks.
Emery
5 years ago
Also, we play alot of 9 hole golf….time is tight. I see the pace of play slow when 1) searching for balls off fairway 2) 4-5 sums taking turns putting out and wagering…on the greens. Waiting on slow putters to miss the shot is agonizing!
don
5 years ago
Pace of play comes down to 2 issues. Even at 60 seconds per shot it takes 40 min more to shoot 110 vs 70. Far more important is that 1 guy early in the day who says I paid my money just like everyone else and I don’t wish to rush. As a marshal who has worked on many courses trust me they don’t understand they rented the course for a few hours, not 18 holes no matter how long it takes.
Bottom line is no one actually cares if you play slowly (unless your playing with them) as long as you move out of the way and don’t hold everyone else up.
Emery
5 years ago
On the cart issue, here in the Heart of Dixie, it can be too hot to walk the hills, or too wet to drive on course for weeks with any vehicle. Currently my group carries a little and uses push carts for exercise and speed of play (a lot of the year is cart path only). How about something like the stand behind mower design, but electric?…..still an issue in hilly areas and wet, muggy, hot Heart of Dixie.
KP
5 years ago
Gentlemen, that was fun and informative piece. Have been a follower for a couple of years up here in Alberta Canada and have always enjoyed the stuff you have put out. It’s to the point and always unbiased. It has influenced my buying decisions and have never been disappointed when I have dropped my hard earned cash on a product you have tested. Look forward to many more articles. Keep up the great work. KP.
JR2
5 years ago
The 2-man cart….didn’t someone come up with a design that was basically a Segway, that had a way to hold the bag and then had some ball/tee holders around the neck? I saw someone on this thing back in Chicago a few years ago – wasn’t sure if it was something they put together on their own or what, but I remember thinking “damn – that dude can just cruise through this course in no time, he’s got his sticks right there, it’s fast, easy to control, looks like fun” — But they’d also have room for an lcd screen in between the handle bars for course mapping/yardage and so on. Problem is a full sized Segway is ~$5-6k (without golf customizations). Club Cars are about that price ($7k+ starting point for 1), but I’d guess that fleet prices for something stock, drop down to less than $1k – so maybe cost is the sticking point. It would need to be owned by the course, too big to fit in your SUV at the end of the round. And have a drink holder. That’d really make it.. ;)
JR2
5 years ago
This has got potential. Appeals to people’s interest in walking while playing (“why am I spending so much time on a golf course and not actually getting any exercise?”) – but it just follows you with your clubs.. I think the future of the cart, is more stuff like this:
https://www.clubcar.com/us/en/golf-operations/fleet-golf/tempo-walk.html
Robert C
5 years ago
I checked one of these out at the PGA Show. Liked everything about it. Follows at your speed about 4 steps behind you. Stops when you stop. Has a GPS built into it as well as beverage holders and other compartments as well.
Very attractive lease terms for a course as well.
Rob
5 years ago
Watch this people! yes I know it’s 47 minutes long, but find the time somewhere.
Half of it is a wrap of of the PGA Show stuff. The other half is pure honest discussion from the faces of MGS that most of you have never seen—-in some cases that’s a good thing—:) But what you get is some of the best guys in the media business talking about why MGS is what it is.
Thanks for doing this Adam and guys!
Scott King
5 years ago
I just watched the round table and just have to give a “thank you” to all of the guys at that table for putting out the best information and guiding me around this game we all love so much. Keep up the great work.