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Asked On Reddit: What Golf Trend Can’t You Stand?

We all love golf around here but that doesn’t mean we can’t complain about it.

A Reddit user recently posed a simple question: What is a golf trend you can’t stand?

And, boy, are there some golf trends a lot of us can’t stand. Here are the top answers on that thread.

Playing music way too loudly on the course

The most offered answer had to do with playing music on the course.

While some users conceded that music was acceptable if played at a reasonable volume, a large swath of golfers are fed up with music in general.

“It’s been an epidemic (usually country music no less) in the States for about a decade now,” one user said.

The general consensus is that we can all come to a happy medium with music.

“If it is only heard in your close vicinity, rock away,” wrote one commenter. “If I can hear it from across the fairway, turn it down.”

Sean’s Take: Music on the course is fine if it’s at a decent volume. The group one hole over shouldn’t be able to hear it. If you don’t want to listen to music, you shouldn’t be forced to by another group.

I prefer silence. Modern life is already noisy. I like getting out in the peace and quiet.

Tee times every seven minutes

The most up-voted answer was that courses are squeezing in too many golfers by putting tee times only a handful of minutes apart.

“Somewhere on the front or back nine, there’s a group of four piling up waiting to tee off because of it,” someone wrote.

This is not necessarily a new problem but the pandemic exacerbated this issue when demand increased. That leads to more traffic jams and longer rounds.

Several people also commented on how courses will put tee times closer together and then blame the golfers for not being fast enough or following pace of play guidelines.

“My old course did this,” a user wrote. “We wanted nine or even 10 (minutes apart) but the corporation said no because more tee times. Then we get complaints about slow play. Corp would email us saying why are you not enforcing pace of play.”

It’s a vicious cycle.

Sean’s Take: Many courses have become greedy by jamming tee times. The proper spacing for tee times is a minimum of nine minutes apart. These facilities lose out in the long run because people won’t come back if the experience is bad.

Twilight rates disappearing

This comment got a lot of traction. It falls under the category of courses changing their pricing models to where tee times later in the day are not necessarily cheaper than earlier times—or if they are, the discount isn’t as helpful.

“Courses that implement dynamic pricing in order to ‘improve the golfers’ experience’ can f— all the way off,” one user wrote.

Many lamented the inability to find a cheap round of golf later in the day.

“I had a course around me growing up that was $15 all you could play after 3 p.m.,” another wrote. “Summers were spent playing as much as we could. Now I can’t find a tee time for less than $70.”

Tee time pricing has been a hot topic recently. Courses near me that used to charge $50 are now above $75. And, rest assured, the condition has not improved to justify the increase.

Sean’s Take: This one is very dependent on where you live. There are still many courses that offer reasonable rates later in the day.

One thing I don’t see much of is nicer courses offering significant junior discounts for weekday afternoons. Growing up, I paid $10 to walk as much as I wanted. And the course was a PGA Tour host. All I had to do was take an etiquette test beforehand. I don’t see those types of discounts anymore.

Golfers not fixing their ball marks

This one isn’t necessarily a new trend but I think it’s worth pointing out given the influx of newcomers to the game.

A ton of golfers either don’t know about fixing ball marks or don’t know how to fix them which leads to green conditions deteriorating.

“You should be excited to fix it,” one commenter wrote. “It means you hit a good shot into the green. It’s not just muni tracks. I played a multiple-major-hosting private club on the weekend and the greens had dozens of ball marks. If you fix it immediately, it heals in hours. If it doesn’t get fixed immediately, it can take weeks to heal.”

Well said. Everyone should fix their ball marks. And if you are playing with a new golfer, teach them how to do it.

Sean’s Take: My rule is that I always try to fix more ball marks than I make during a round of golf. If I hit six greens and only make that many ball marks, then I’ll try to fix at least seven marks.

You can take this a step further by always fixing at least one ball mark (regardless of whether you made one yourself) when you come up to the green. I try to do this but end up forgetting.

Either way, I think this has become a bigger issue and is definitely an annoying trend.

Watching YouTube lessons instead of getting real instruction

Oh, now we’re talking.

Not to suggest that golfers don’t take lessons, because they do. However, there is a growing faction of people who believe that YouTube lessons are just as effective as personalized instruction on the range.

“Videos like that can be good to tell you what to do with your body but they can’t watch you try to do it, then tell you where you’re messing up,” someone wrote. “Only lessons can do that.”

While YouTube lessons can be very informative and helpful, sometimes they lead to golfers self-diagnosing themselves with an issue they don’t even have.

“You need to know what your issue is in the first place,” a user said. “I’ve seen so many people working on s— that isn’t their major flaw and they get even more messed up.”

Sean’s Take: Nothing can replace the value of in-person instruction. However, you need to be actively working on your game for this to matter. As a former coach, I can’t tell you the amount of people who took a lesson from me, did nothing for two weeks and then came back for a lesson only to repeat the exact mistakes from two weeks ago.

YouTube golf is a powerful tool but it’s easy to go down a rabbit hole. You have to understand your swing first, because not every tip is going to be helpful.

What trends are you seeing in golf that drive you nuts?

Let me know below in the comments.

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      Wes

      11 months ago

      These are not recent trends but things that have unfortunately withstood the test of time…
      – Playing the tips or even next set up (blues) because you’re young and every once in a blue moon make good contact with the ball. Be honest and humble enough to know which tees are appropriate for your skill set.
      – Parking 2 wheels of the golf cart on the grass around tees and greens (especially greens). Keep all 4 on the path, Gomer!!!
      – Not repairing ball marks on greens or filling divots with sand. Your dad taught you to leave things in better shape than you found them so do what they said, Junior! And just because you might pay membership dues, you are not exempt from taking care of the course. In fact, you should take better care because you’re a member!!

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      Kirit

      11 months ago

      These are all annoying but I’m not sure they’re trends. Can’t remember a time when people didn’t do these things!

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      Wes

      11 months ago

      If you wanna listen to music at any volume level on the golf course, wear your freaking earbuds. Why would you think anyone shares the same taste in music anyway.

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      Kurt Rightmyer

      11 months ago

      Tee It Forward is lousy. For good players all it has done is take the driver out of their hands. The scores really haven’t improved because teeing off with a shorter club from forward tees doesn’t leave you in any better position for your second shot.

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      Howard

      11 months ago

      Slow, awful golfers who refuse to let you play through. Especially if they see you are playing with a woman. My wife is an excellent golfer, and has been known to drive one at their heels! Of course we always yell “fore”!” Hit your lame 85 yard slice off the tee, then kindly get out of the way and let us play through.

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      Earl Dorber

      11 months ago

      Cigarette butts all over the course, especially between cart path and green!

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      Will

      11 months ago

      Groups so loud you can hear them from the opposite side of the course, losing their minds over every shot for no reason, often in your backswing.

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      John

      11 months ago

      My home course on weekends are 9 minutes apart and weekdays 12 minutes. The pro there watches, people like a Hawk and all of the if someone isn’t
      Keeping up Pace of play, they get one warning. And if they continue to play slow, because they’re drunk or goofing around, he kicks them off the course for good. Where I live four courses have closed in the past year so we have an influx of people onto the course that does not understand the way the courses ran

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      ButchT

      11 months ago

      Oops, left one comment out! In my experience 9 out of 10 (maybe more) golf instructors are useless – but there are many good ones on YouTube. Of course just my opinion.

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      Kurt Rightmyer

      11 months ago

      Take lessons with me for $30 an hour, balls included. Go to Craigslist San Luis Obispo and look under Community/Lessons.

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      ButchT

      11 months ago

      I recall while living in East Tennessee repairing lots of ball marks but since living in the West it really surprises me when I see a ball marks. These green are much harder to damage!

      Lots of golfers playing music but I seldom hear it unless I meet them on the tee box and then most politely ask if it disturbs me. I am more often disturbed by drunks hollering back and forth on the tee boxes or greens.

      Slow play is getting worse. Children playing on Saturday and Sunday morning, fivesomes playing at any time weekend or week day. Singles and doubles running up the back of foursomes on Saturday and Sunday morning – I did belong to one club that required doubles and singles to play together before 4:00pm on the weekends. Had to have at least 3 players.

      6,000 yard tees for seniors!

      And, the worst! Golfers not raking bunkers! We have 1 – 2 rakes in every bunker but golfers will step over them to get out but not rake! I wish that if you walked into a bunker and did not rake upon leaving an IDE would take you out!

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      Pam

      11 months ago

      I worked as an assistant at a golf course back in the 90s. The pro would always pack as many tee times in as he could – even squeezing foursomes in-between! When I was running the shop during the week, I would put fictitious names every few time slots… especially for the weekends. It was so refreshing to know that that next foursome is “probably going to be a no-show!” But it was amazing to have 4 to 4 and-a-half hour rounds all weekend long.
      Regarding ball marks…I think everybody should be required to know how to properly repair them before getting off! And replacing divots as well!

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      Wes

      11 months ago

      Preach it!

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      TGIF

      11 months ago

      Fridays are being charged as “weekend rates”…

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      Peejer

      11 months ago

      COVID ruined golf. It brought out an abundance of people who wanted to play golf, but are not golfers. There is a clear difference. No etiquette, repair divots, ball marks, bunkers, or even painful, slow play that ruins the round for everyone behind them.
      After decades of having a Monday night league where we played 9 holes, the course told us we could no longer have 8 tee times to support us, even though it was filled up every week. They no longer ‘needed’ our business. Golf equipment prices have soared and courses no longer concern themselves with providing any value or customer service. A local course no longer offers rain checks, stating if you start and get rained off the course, too bad, no refunds/rain checks. Oh, and by the way, you have to pre-pay for your round when you book, paying full price if you cancel inside of 24 hours. It’s out of control and it doesn’t look like there’s any going back anytime soon.

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      ButchT

      11 months ago

      Sucks!

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      J. Georg

      11 months ago

      Yes covid was the beginning of the end for good golf

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      Greg

      11 months ago

      We need to find a way to instruct people in golf etiquette–how to behave on the golf course in ways beneficial to all–play fairly quickly, stay quiet and still when another player is hitting a shot, fix ball marks, keep it a civil game. It’s not that difficult but requires respect for others and the game. And knowledge. People new to the game would handle themselves better on the course if they knew what was expected of them before they hit the first shot of their golfing lives. To improve pace of play and make the game more fun, we also need to go back to reasonable pins and green speeds. Amateurs aren’t pros, not even close, and golf is hard enough when conditions are “easy.”

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      Mike S

      11 months ago

      We also need to enforce etiquette for those attending golf tournaments…ticket-holders “heckling” players has no place in golf….. Sadly only Augusta gets this right!

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      Dave

      11 months ago

      I live on the Tenth hole of a private golf course. I go out a couple of times a week and fix ball marks. Not really enough because they need to be fixed correctly as soon as they happen. What always amazes me is there are ball marks within 10 feet of the hole. How can anyone miss these both the person who made them and the rest of the field. Look on You tube to find the correct way to fix a ball mark. Please.

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      Wes

      11 months ago

      I believe it was Golf Digest that did a study a couple of times where they watched whether or not players fixed their ball marks and if they were members or non-members. Surprisingly (at least to me) is that members were by far the greater offender! I would have thought that members would take better care of the course because it’s theirs. Nope! I recently joined a golf club and can say it’s true. There are ball marks all over the place, very obviously in sight for anyone who cares to see them. I could spend all day repairing them. Your club is so lucky to have you! I hope they know that!

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      Jim

      11 months ago

      GROW THE GAME has been the mantra of all the golf associations and the who’s who of golf for years. Well, they did it and we’re stuck with ALL of it! Higher salaries and payouts for anyone involved in any way with golf. Exorbitant greens fees across the board from public to semi-private clubs. Outrageous equipment prices. There must be a ton of $$ out there because people are paying for all of it so don’t expect things to get any better. If you do see a marshal they’re not expected to do anything to help so many courses don’t bother. And as far as the rude, inconsiderate and “i paid for it and I’ll play as slow as I like” and you can fix my pitch marks and rake my bunker” crowd the rest of us are doomed. “They” want to make golf like football and so many other sports…a LOUD, rowdy drunken free-for-all. What did we expect when you look at Waste Management and LIV? That’s my rant and I feel better now.

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      Jeff

      11 months ago

      People not using cart paths and driving right next to tee boxes and greens. Unless you’re handicapped quit being so lazy!

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      GregC

      11 months ago

      Along with not raking sand or not repairing ball marks. I’m going to add dragging feet on the greens and not cleaning up your tee from the tee box. A little courtesy goes a long way with other golfers and maintenance staff of the course.

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      Charles

      11 months ago

      Where I live in Queensland Australia I have two clubs I have joined, one cost $200 a year to join and $10 to play and the other $100 a year and free to play. I love my life.

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      OpMan

      11 months ago

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPDulU3hXuQ
      If baseball stadiums can do this, why won’t golf courses ban belligerents????
      Again, because golf wants to make sure it keeps on making money from these types of Yahoos.
      And this was all borne out of the period 15 years ago when we saw a serious drop off in golf after the last major financial crash. The golf industry is just trying to bank on it right now while it’s hot, so they can put it all away for a rainy day, as golf could crash again when courses empty out for a while, but it it is also working really hard to keep these new Covid golfers addicted to the game with all the accessories and frilly things including all the tech they love and the terrible fashion they adore.
      Look at Malbon – exactly riding on the buzz while it can, the social media fan base can’t get enough of it, buying it all up in droves. I even came across a dude who had Malbon headcovers on his woods but he was quick to tell me that they were fakes LMAO so there’s already counterfeits out there, but these kids (I call them kids, they’re all just barely college grads but they’re kids to me), are literally out there for the fashion of it, not really playing to love the game of golf but to take pictures and videos of themselves

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      Will

      11 months ago

      People jot saying “one” when giving yardages. If I am 165 out, don’t say “sixty five” my brain goes to my 58°, then sees I am about 15 before the 150 marker.. it just confuses things. Say One Sixty Five! It’s a single syllable. Don’t make it weird and sound like a dork.

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      myoyster

      11 months ago

      Every put you are trying to make isn’t a million dollar put. Don’t take all day!

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      dallen

      11 months ago

      You had to take an etiquette test? That’s great, it should be mandatory for everyone to take annually, even the seasoned old-timers complaining here. The term “Green fees” does not indicate how long it should take to play. At the courses I’ve played, the advice you get is, “Keep pace with the group ahead of you.” The advice should be, “No mulligans or breakfast balls, and if you hit it 8 times, pick it up and move to the next hole.”

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      Vic

      11 months ago

      An odd take, but its a growing situation. More and more golf simulator businesses popping up offering memberships for ~$300 month locked in for a year. It sounds great b/c that could be the avg cost for at least 1 round per week. But, when you couple with paying for a golf sim membership and paying to play at a course on the weekend, which costs at courses have risen, it racks up quickly. I love the game, but dang its an expensive sport.

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      Will

      11 months ago

      People jot saying “one” when giving yardages. If I am 165 out, don’t say “sixty five” my brain goes to my 58°, then sees I am about 15 before the 150 marker.. it just confuses things. Say One Sixty Five! It’s a single syllable. Don’t make it weird and sound like a dork.

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      Bulldog

      11 months ago

      People playing from the wrong tees for their game.

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      B Benny

      11 months ago

      Putting with the flag in all the time. Can’t get used to it.

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      Darren

      11 months ago

      No twilight rates at my home course. $60/18 holes,(Canadian money), extra to rent a cart. There are several members, single handicappers as a foursome, new golfers, are very slow, 90 percent of the time they will not let anyone play through. I find that, at my course, visitors are the best for letting players go through. We rent cabins, the players are there for lots of golf, they have a great time but most are respectful to other players and the course. Divots- I make it a point to fix mine plus at least two depending on how busy the course is. Slow play and fixing other divots will always be there. It’s golf not NASCAR. There just has to be a comfortable medium. ( I am a 10 hndcp at my home course- I golf with lower handicappers and higher handicappers. 3.5 to 4.5 hours per round with good “conditions”).

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      Dr Tee

      11 months ago

      Cigar smoking on course !

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      Fake

      11 months ago

      Is that a trend? It seems like it’s always been there.

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      ButchT

      11 months ago

      And, it has always been a good thing.

      Stony P

      11 months ago

      I won’t play with people smoking cigars!

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      ButchT

      11 months ago

      No one wants to play with someone who won’t play with someone smoking cigars.

      Will

      11 months ago

      If you mean riding in the same cart I can see that. I always ask – even my buddy. Not in my cart ? Take a hike.

      GenoK

      11 months ago

      Fixing ball marks come in JUST before raking sand traps!! I KNOW that where I play, 90% of the people AREN’T NEWBIES. I fix every ball mark within a 10′ circle of mine, meaning I repair roughly 10 on every green. I play early morning, so the greens have moisture and repairs are easy. At least 4-5 traps a round and I’M NOT EVEN IN THEM! I just want to shake some of these golfers and say WTF!! I’m off my soap box now. Thanks for the ability to rant about this.

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      GenoA

      11 months ago

      I agree 110%… I have, for the last 30 yrs or so, made a habit of fixing, at the least, 3 ball marks besides the one I made. As you can guess I never have trouble finding the 3 marks to fix.
      Peace,
      GenoA

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      krm

      11 months ago

      Amen. Plus learn how to rake the bunker properly. Doesn’t take that long, isn’t difficult, and it’s good etiquette (something in very short supply.

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      KC

      11 months ago

      I agree with both points on ball marks and trap raking. As a newbie, I appreciate your take that we are not responsible for all of the ills that are currently plaguing the wonderful world of golf. I came on board during the pandemic and have grown to love the game (although it doesn’t always love me back). I get to play a private club once a month with a friend and I am shocked at the massive number of ball marks on the soft bent grass greens. It was about equal to the muni’s I usually ply. I was extremely excited to fix my ball mark the first time I hit an approach shot to the green and I abide by the “fix yours and one other” rule.
      One additional issue I have is the sorry state of sand traps in general. It seems many courses like to have them but don’t spend the resources (new sand, drainage, serviceable rakes) to support them.

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      Jimmy

      11 months ago

      Yep, failure to rake is far worse than not fixing plug marks. At least you can now fix plug marks on your line on the green. But there is nothing to do about landing is an unfixed gouge or footprint in a bunker…

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      Will

      11 months ago

      You have rakeable bunkers? Lucky. Most of the courses I play have bunkers so hard they’d be better off leaving a pickaxe in them. The rake can hardly leave a mark.

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      Will

      11 months ago

      Your heart is in the right place but you are slowing down the game for others especially as an early tee time. You can’t be raking bunkers when you should be hitting or playing ready golf

      Fixing 5 ball marks on a hole is fine unless you are holding up play. Make sure to look up and confirm after each fix. I do appreciate the sentiment.

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      Chanty

      11 months ago

      The music and overall bro culture on golf courses is truly ruining the game. I got so fed up with playing public courses on the front range of Colorado that I actually bit the bullet and joined a country club. I’m not really a country club kind of dude but I do love golf and want to escape music and drunken douches. 6 hour rounds with people literally blaring faux country music, metal, hip hop and the courses doing nothing about it just went too far. Couple all of that with the course conditions becoming abyssmal due to these cosplaytriots driving carts on tee boxes and literally on greens occaisionally makes golf unenjoyable.

      Public courses not enforcing any rules/etiquette for fear of bros writing bad reviews and making them out to be some kind Judge Smails type just makes your eyes roll.

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      Scott

      11 months ago

      I’m all for entrepreneurship (especially in a sport expensive as golf)… but man, some of the fabrics being used in golf clothes these days are bad. They don’t feel good on your skin, they make you sweat like a disco shirt from 1975, and they’re not made well.

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      Bob Petrowski

      11 months ago

      The two courses I play at regularly eliminated rangers on the course altogether. There is only a starter. They pushed back twilight until 4:00 PM and for the first time they limited the number of annual memberships sold. Both courses are park district owned and are managed by two different management corporations, The more revenue the courses produce, the more money the management group makes. All of golf has become totally profit driven from the courses to the club and ball manufacturers everyone is pushing the revenue potential and forgetting about the game. Players feel like they are paying so someone else will fix the ball marks on the greens and the divots in the fairways. They are getting their monies worth by not doing these things. The same goes for over drinking on the course. The cart person wants to make big tips so they will sell as much as they can regardless how someone is acting. But is it just golf or our whole society?

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      Greg

      11 months ago

      “All of golf has become totally profit driven ”
      Golf is a business, after all. There should be no surprise that courses a trying to make a profit. As far as rising green fees are concerned, show me one business that hasn’t raised their prices over the years. Running and maintaining a golf course is very expensive. You might not see major improvements to the course, but staffing costs, equipment, fertilizer, water, electricity, etc. have all increased causing fees to increase. It’s been my experience, (15 yrs in the industry after retiring from my corporate job), that people don’t look at a golf course as a business for some reason and are always looking for discounts of one sort of the other. Try walking into your local sandwich shop or gas station and ask for a discount…see what they tell you.

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      Kirkfrederic

      11 months ago

      Not raking bunkers is a big no-no on my list. I find myself raking my footprints and several others almost every time. As for music, I’m admittedly a curmudgeon: If you need music on the golf course, you’re missing the point. And I’m a working professional musician.

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      League Golfer

      11 months ago

      I wholeheartedly agree about the music. Please turn down the volume if you HAVE to have music. I feel sad that these people probably never have any quiet time in their lives and probably choose to spend all day listening to music and media. That’s sad, for them.
      I’m even more upset about divots not being replaced, as then the fairways are crappy and my league plays Summer Rules, even though we are a very busy public golf course with too many unfixed or unreplaced divots. I don’t end up in traps too often and can deal with them being a little crappy, but it’s really sad to see divots all over the fairways just a yard or two from their spot. I don’t have time to replace them all, and many are too dried out and it’s too late for them.

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      Charles

      11 months ago

      The idiots that yell “go in the hole” should be removed from the course. Etiquette is the key these people don’t have. On the course or in their daily lives.

      Scott M

      11 months ago

      The rates for my local courses may not be at $75/round but that doesn’t mean mine haven’t increased. Percentage-wise, my local courses have increased their rates from 25-40%…that’s still significant. On another topic, I have improved my average score from the low 90s to the upper 70s…mainly from watching a variety of YouTube golf instructors. Frankly, I have paid for personal instruction and some “highly recommended” instructors are just garbage. They film me on their iPad and tell me what I’m doing wrong but offer nothing on how to fix it. No modifications. No drills. I don’t want to pay hundreds of dollars bouncing around to different instructors until I find the right one, when I can do that on YouTube for free. Could personal instruction with the “right” instructor be the best path to improvement? Absolutely. However, finding that instructor could get expensive. YMMV.

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      NZ golfer.

      11 months ago

      Every white belted, too tight shorted golf bro talking to their ball like it’s a poorly trained dog before they’ve even finished their follow through. Sort you distance control out, take your own advice and “sit, sit, sit” your arse down in your unnecessary for your age cart.

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      Scott

      11 months ago

      Ball marks are a huge issue. My friends are getting tired of me spending 2-3 minutes every green fixing ball marks. Public course, high end private course, doesn’t matter. I worked on a course grounds crew in college so I have a strong appreciation for a great course.

      With the twilight rates, something I’m running into in my metro is that there are no twilight tee times, regardless of rate, because everyone has late afternoon leagues. Its almost impossible to play a quick 9 after work or bring my 8 year old out for an easygoing round on the course.

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      Vito

      11 months ago

      I’m ambivalent about slow play. On the one hand I like to play quickly but when I’m with friends I don’t mind spending an extra hour on the course with them. We spend our wait time making fun of the clowns in front of us who take 5 practice swings the hit the ball 20 feet. The only time I get upset because of slow play is if it’s about to rain or it’s 105F.

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      Stevie C

      11 months ago

      I’ve been seeing a lot of golfers sitting in carts, staring at cellphones, waiting for the group ahead.
      Tee times are too close.
      The experience is ruined.

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      Mark R

      11 months ago

      “Bro Golf” in the post covid era is the worst. Played by foursomes of 20 somethings – loud music – one guy always wearing hat backwards – another is the king of all slicers – none can break 110 but group plays blue tees – 2 mins lining up thier 3rd putt on a $2 bet – excessive boozing – no clue about course etiquette, pace of play, don’t repair ball marks or rake traps. Hint: you’re not social influencer – you’re high handicapper golfer that looks foolish.

      Courses will jam in as many tee times as possible and not put a ranger on the course to assist these hack Bro Golfers keep up the pace.

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      Jerry

      11 months ago

      I am glad you mentioned the bad golfers playing from the blue tees. I am constantly behind 20-somethings who slice every shot and then spend 20 minutes looking for their lost balls.

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      Fake

      11 months ago

      And 9/10 times, it’s a Wilson Chaos.

      WBN

      11 months ago

      Completely agree with your comment except for the ranger. We have rangers but all they do is ride around and put in their time for free golf and look for balls. They almost never speak to a slow group or any group of etiquette deficient golfers about being considerate to the group behind them.

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      Daniel

      11 months ago

      Agreed!! Just went through this exact idiotic scene yesterday at my local course. One guy in the group was a player, but had 2 others slicing and worm burning all the way through the 1st 9.
      The one guy was an obvious player, and let us through at the clubhouse swing. Our back 9 was done in half the time as the front. I felt bad for the organized player in the 3 some explaining to us at the swing , the 2 other guys very seldom play and was sorry for holding us up. I mentioned perhaps the other 2 should maybe play the whites or even the reds, they certainly shouldnt be on blues!

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      Billy Snyder

      11 months ago

      Charging more than 50% of the total price for 9 holes…
      Some of us have health issues and somedays its impossible to do all 18…
      Also, some of us do not have six hours…

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      Jerry

      11 months ago

      You are not exaggerating about the 6-hour rounds. SInce covid it commonly takes 6 hours to hit a bucket of balls and then play 18 holes at the courses I play. Because of that I don’t play nearly as much as I used to prior to covid. I don’t mind if people are really bad golfers but I care that many don’t care how long they take to hit numerous extra shots and lots of time looking for lost balls.

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      Don Milberg

      11 months ago

      LIV and anything associated.

      Reply

      Tim

      11 months ago

      PGA tour boring coverage of golf. Watching some PGA tour clown line up a putt for 3 minutes while LIV is showing shot after shot.

      Reply

      Tim

      11 months ago

      That’s just because you’re a crybaby

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      Mr Ed

      11 months ago

      Awww you are going to ok little man……….when you grow up you will realize the hypocrisy of this attitude…..

      Reply

      Dave

      11 months ago

      is LIV v around. Is anybody still playing on it besides Bryson and Brooks?

      Reply

      M8ke

      11 months ago

      Not fixing ball marks is a total lack of consideration. Lets also add not fixing divots and not raking bunkers to the list.

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      OpMan

      11 months ago

      LACK OF MARSHALS.
      The total lack of any golf course now enforcing etiquette at all in any shape or form, because the entire golf industry is now more concerned and worried about pissing off their “customers” by telling them what to do, for fear that those people may give the course a bad review and not ever come back to the course.
      The entire golf industry has become a massive retail for-profit machine, who no longer care about the game itself and have succumbed to the make-the-quick-buck now scheme of everything else.
      So, pace of play suffers. And then you have absolute hackers and young new Covid Chads in the worst fashion clothing imaginable blasting their music who can barely hit the ball go straight to the back tees and spraying the ball all over the planet without a care in the world. Many of them just grab a half a bucket of range balls and use those, as I see so many range balls all over so many of my local courses now, they think golf is like that where they can get drunk and have at it, as nobody tells them how to behave or anything of the sort

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      OpMan

      11 months ago

      NOT enforcing

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      Pete

      11 months ago

      Music, and loud speakers, have no place on a golf course.

      Reply

      justmy2cents

      11 months ago

      Tell that to LIV… you know… “golf only louder”. What a freaking lousy example to set for new golfers.

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      Tim

      11 months ago

      Music is fine. Loud music isn’t.

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      Fake

      11 months ago

      My local course did away with twilight rates. I’m sure money/demand was a factor. I also know that people abused it, and just wouldn’t come back at the deadline. We would be in at 9:15 PM, and see the ranger out there trying to get people to come in.

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      CB

      11 months ago

      I understand that people will push twilight until as dark as possible, but the same can be true of forcing people to pay for 18 hole rounds when starting later in the day. If a person pays full price, the course shouldn’t be upset when they are playing right up until dark to try to play ALL of those 18 holes they paid for.

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