Can A “Crappy” Golfer Play Blades?
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Can A “Crappy” Golfer Play Blades?

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Can A “Crappy” Golfer Play Blades?

I don’t know about you but every time I look at a set of blades, I get a tingling sensation in parts of my body that probably shouldn’t be tingling in a PGA TOUR Superstore.

Even typing that sentence makes me a little uneasy.

I do love me some blades, though. But as that great diplomat Harry Callahan once said, a man’s got to know his limitations.

So, when a lovely set of the new MacGregor Toney Penna Tour Forged MB irons showed up on my doorstep, this faithful correspondent faced a moral dilemma. Do I keep them safe in my office where they can’t hurt anybody or do I put them into play because I think I can game them?

MacGregor Toney Penna Forged MB irons
The subject of this experiment, the MacGregor Toney Penna Forged Muscle Back

Well, since you’ve read this far, I’m pretty sure you know which path I chose.

Truth be told, this experiment went better than I thought it would. No one got hurt and I didn’t break a 5-iron over my knee. And, no, the entire playing field didn’t stop what they were doing to laugh hysterically at me.

Although there were a couple of occasions where they could have.

Join me, my friends, on this little journey. We’ll have some laughs together and, if we’re not careful, we might just learn something, too.

Blades? Are you insane?

Let’s get one thing on the table. “Crappy,” as stated in the headline, might be a little misleading (it was the editor-in-chief’s idea, not mine). I’m a solid enough single-digit handicap with healthy self-esteem, so I like to think I’m a bit removed from “crappy.” However, at the merry old age of 66, any help an iron can give me is a good thing. My go-to set this year has been the Wilson Staff Model XB irons, a marvelous combination of playability with some juice. The backups have been the Tour Edge Exotics Forged CB irons. They feature a truly pleasing feel with more forgiveness than you’d expect in a player’s cavity-back.

Wilson Staff Model XB, my gamer for most of the year

However, according to Arccos, my most nagging weakness this season has been my approach game (putting hasn’t done me any favors, either). On rounds that I’ve broken 80, approach has been acceptable. On those that I haven’t, well …

So why, then, even try an iron that’s going to be harder to hit? Shouldn’t I be going in the other direction?

A reasonable person might certainly make that decision. But that would make for a rather boring article, wouldn’t it? I like to live life on the edge, baby. That’s how I roll.

So, blades it is!

Where did this potential golfing nightmare take place?

Say what you will but I’m not totally stupid. I wasn’t going to try this harebrained experiment with anyone I know. That includes my golfing arch-rival, aka cousin Paul. There’s no need to give him any more trash-talk material. He has more than enough already.

No, the ideal spot was a day job work trip to Whitefish, Mont. That’s most of a continent away from anyone who knows me. Even better, since it was a work trip, it would be customer golf. You’re supposed to let customers win, right?

Hacking it up with blades should do the trick.

North Course, Whitefish Lake Golf Club in Whitefish, Montana

This experiment took place over three days on the marvelous North Course at the Whitefish Lake Golf Club. It involved three lengthy range sessions (mats only, which complicated things), one nine-hole round and two 18-hole rounds. My bag included the standard tools: Callaway Quantum Triple Diamond Max driver, TaylorMade R7 Quad mini driver, Wilson Dynapower Carbon 4-wood, Cleveland RTZ wedges. The new additions, along with the MacGregor blades, included the Tour Edge Exotics TI-Utility 4-iron (a splendid little club) and a new putter from a company called Chamber (more on that in the coming weeks).

Whitefish, Montana is, in a word, spectacular. It’s on the doorstep of Glacier National Park and the mountain landscape will take your breath away. More golf-specific, its elevation of nearly 3,000 feet above sea level will make you feel young again. My home course, Breakfast Hill in Greenland, N.H., is so close to the Atlantic that it’s essentially at sea level. That extra Montana elevation is worth roughly five to seven more yards of carry, slightly higher flight and a little less curvature. For the most part, that’s about one less club.

3,000 feet above sea level means a little more distance

Enough with the foreplay! Tell us what happened!

OK, OK.

As we all know, mats are liars. My first practice bucket had me thinking I had somehow found my inner Seve Ballesteros or, more appropriately, my inner Toney Penna. I was hitting gorgeous high draws, serious low cuts and laser-accurate fades. The forged MacGregors had a throwback feel. At $599 per set, they’re a virtual no-brainer.

Modern forgings feel wonderful but a little on the firmer side and, frankly, not totally indistinguishable from a top-shelf casting. I have an older set of MacGregor VIP MB/CB irons (circa 2001) that I dearly love. Those have a noticeably softer, smooshier, feel compared to any of today’s forgings, regardless of manufacturer. These Toney Penna Tour Forged MBs were more reminiscent of those old VIP irons or even the 1999 Hogan Apex blades.

Compact face, exceptional feel

After falsely believing I had unlocked a new level to my game on the range, I teed off and soon learned that reality has a way of crushing your dreams. The first two holes at Whitefish North are driver-wedge so it wasn’t until the third hole that I actually had to hit a blade for real. It’s a long par-4 and while my drive wasn’t horrible, I had a 5-iron to the green. It got most of the way there. As you’d expect, blades don’t give you much love if you miss the center by even a little.

The fourth hole is a par-3 that played 178 that day. I hit the 5-iron again and, again, missed the center. The shot went straight and actually made the green but left me with a long, long birdie putt. The rest of the round was more of the same but I was able to scramble to keep from collapsing.

Deer sit fairway-adjacent at Whitefish – they know they’re safe

Second verse, same as the first

The next day was a full 18 on the North course (if you get the chance, play it. The back nine is spectacular!).

I scraped together twin 41s for a total of 82. Here’s what Arccos had to say:

“Your iron play came in 0.3 strokes ahead of your skill today – the breaks landed in your favor. Putting came in 2.6 strokes behind your skill today – some of those breaks did not go your way.”

Arccos has a very subtle sense of humor.

The 13th at Whitefish North – stunning downhill tee shot

Iron play improved as the round went on which was good news. Front-nine performance was a lot like the day before with the exception of a pitching wedge on the eighth hole to about two feet for birdie. After being reminded that mats are lying sacks of mule excrement, I stopped trying to hit a fade or draw and just focused on making good swings.

A man’s got to know his limitations.

The 14th and 16th holes showed why blades aren’t for everyone. I hit good drives on both holes but I mishit a 7-iron slightly on 14 (you can tell by the crack sound) and put it in the left front bunker. A foozled 5-iron on the par-5 15th left me in a bad spot to hit the green. I settled for bogey on both. The par-4 17th, however, was a highlight. I badly pulled my drive left, leaving me no way to reach the green other than going over the pines. I was able to open up a pitching wedge enough to get over and the ball ended up 20 feet from the pin.

Long and narrow

Final round: A dose of redemption

I’m not sure what to make of the final round at Whitefish. It could be an indicator that blades might not be a bad idea after all. It could just as easily be a false promise that will suck me into a vortex of doubt, self-loathing and a terminal case of the shanks.

As an eternal optimist, I’m going with the former.

The final-round 77 featured two birdies (one thanks to a 9-iron to inside four feet on 12) and a 78 percent GIR stat. Arccos summed it up thusly:

“Your usual weakness was today’s hero. Approach – of all things – carried this round.”

Sounds like a snarky, back-handed compliment, doesn’t it? Arccos and I might need to have a little chat about its attitude.

12th green at Whitefish Lake, North Course

“Your approach game was the engine, gaining over a stroke and getting quality looks all day,” said the Arccos AI-generated summary. Putting, however, remained a bugaboo, with three three-putts.

What does this experiment mean?

For starters, it means I’m going to continue the experiment. And work on my putting.

Golf is about two things: making the most of your bad shots and making the most of your good ones. Everyone is going to hit bad shots, especially those of us who play golf for fun. In that sense, a more forgiving iron is your friend and ally. Forgiveness, in that sense, is about making the most of your mishits. It can be the difference between making the green or landing in that deep, nasty left front bunker. Those six to 10 feet of distance differential can be the difference between a two-putt par and two shots out of the bunker plus another two putts for a double bogey.

Not the thinnest topline in the world, but thin enough

Blades, on the other hand, are first-wife-level forgiving. However, when you hit blades pure and they end up close to the pin, it’s a sensation like very few others. It’s all purely subjective but those Toney Penna Tour Forged MBs have the feel I remember from the old days. And while it’s hard to quantify, I think the Arccos data backs up a certain level of precision that maybe I wasn’t getting before.

This, friends, is where reliable data from an Arccos or Shot Scope tells you the truth as opposed to the story you want to hear. Four and a half months of data say my approach game has been, well, shitty. Two-and-a-half additional rounds suggest potential improvement, but more data will tell us the truth.

This experiment is continuing so we’ll see if Whitefish was an anomaly. A larger sample size should provide more meaningful data.

A legendary name from MacGregor’s glory days

As for meaningful professional feedback, my teaching pro Steve Thomson from Golftec in Danvers, Mass actually saw some wisdom on the decision and provided some sound guidance.

“For a golfer who tends to hit it low and left (that’s me!), blades can help. You’ll hit it higher with more loft and you’ll spin it more with the higher CG,” he said.

“Provided, of course, you find the center every once in a while.”

He’s funny. Maybe not Arccos funny, but funny, nevertheless.

So, let’s hear from you out there in MyGolfSpy land. Have you tried a similar experiment? What have your results been?

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John is an aging, yet avid golfer, writer, 6-point-something handicapper enjoying life in beautiful New Hampshire. He loves telling stories, writing about golf and golf travel, and enjoys classic golf equipment. “The only thing a golfer needs is more daylight.” - BenHogan

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      Eel

      3 weeks ago

      What we need is an actual Mygolfspy scientific test to tell us the truth about blades.

      Reply

      Tom Marvin

      3 weeks ago

      Hell no, dont make that amateur mistake, and don’t get stiff shafts. How many times have you heard this song” I bought these latest greatest expensive new irons and i cant hit them” I use cheap $ 12 bucks each cast deep cavity back but thin top line, minimal offset, thin sole, soft steel, a blade/deep cavity back hybrid, this is as good as it gets.Do back and forth testing between regular plus and regular shaft flex.

      Reply

      Dave

      3 weeks ago

      What iron set would this be

      Reply

      CrustyDog

      3 weeks ago

      I switched to blades earlier this year and am down to a 8.2 handicap from an 11 with no other changes to my game. Approach was easily the worst part of my game and now it’s becoming a strength.

      Reply

      Steve

      3 weeks ago

      Quick question…. What shafts did the MacGregors come with?

      Reply

      John Barba

      3 weeks ago

      Nippon Modus3 105 Tour – R flex – a personal favorite.

      Reply

      Thomas Mansfield

      3 weeks ago

      At our age, we grew up playing blades. For me, I did not move into cavity back until 2014 (mostly because I was dad who’s kids were athletes and that left little time for golf). Then I pulled out my clubs for a round of golf and saw what others were playing. After that round in March of 2014, I went home, did some research and order a set of Adam’s clubs. Since I have been fitted three times. My game has improved greatly since 2014. So the question would be,”why?” The answer,” only if it makes me better.”

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      Rich

      3 weeks ago

      No one should play blades. They’re inferior. Cavity-backed clubs are more forgiving and have no drawbacks.

      Blades are not more “playable,” either. That’s a myth. In order to draw or fade the ball, it’s a batter of clubface orientation and swingpath, not the weight distribution about the face. People think blades are more workable because they slice and hook more with them, but that’s because they’re less forgiving on off-center hits. Properly struck, you can fade or draw the ball just as easily with perimeter-weighted clubs.

      Play what you want; I don’t care. But don’t try to convince anyone that blades are superior in anyway. The physics are completely against that.

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      Robin

      3 weeks ago

      I have hit my favorite shots with my itobori blades…
      My favorite part i love about blades they are lighter than Gi clubs.
      I might bring them out again or put them up for sale,
      After I try them again I’m kinda pump to try them again.

      Reply

      Patrick Patterson

      3 weeks ago

      I will tell you what will happen hit 10000 shots with those blades you wont be a crappy player anymore and the miss with blades is always short short is almost always the best miss in approach shots as opposed to long with game improvement irons which is almost always terrible

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      Mike

      3 weeks ago

      That makes absolutely NO sense. Most people miss short w/ ANY style of club. Do you understand how worse your blade shots are if you do not ‘flush’ it???

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      mg

      3 weeks ago

      Played blades most of my life, a well known teaching pro and close friend was fitting me 3 years ago and I mentioned some blades I was looking at, his response was your old and isn’t it about time you have some fun hitting a golf ball! I listened – was fit into some forgiving irons and am having a lot of fun playing and scoring.

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      Jim Rebey

      3 weeks ago

      Four and a half months of data said your approach play was bad so that says you were bad with player cbs or gi irons also. Trying blades in the short and mid irons may just improve your ball striking due to the feedback, jm2c.

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      Patrick C

      3 weeks ago

      If you are a single-digit handicap, you aren’t a “crappy” golfer and can probably benefit from gaming blades. I would like to get an assessment from the 10-20 handicapper who needs more forgiveness and doesn’t really know how to shape shots.

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      MarkM

      3 weeks ago

      I like where you’re going John, keep on keepin on.
      I grew up playing blades (I’m 69), as I’m sure you did, and still prefer the look and feel over any other level of forgiving clubs. Saying that, I currently play Srixon ZX7s during GHIN posting season but in those winter months I pull out my blades (Honma Rose-Proto). I always enjoy playing with them, even in cold weather.
      I’ve always felt that playing with blades can make you a better ball striker just due to the feedback. When you can tell exactly where you hit the face, it allows your body/brain to adjust.
      If I get past the point where I’m not playing in club tournaments during the season, I will definitely go back to blades full time as it just feel more like playing the kind of golf I grew up with.

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      Shanks4nuttin'

      3 weeks ago

      Great write up. I love how you make your articles fun and entertaining John. As for blades vs. other clubs, fitting and trying different irons can reveal which combinations allow one to hit the center of the face more often. I have a couple of sets of clubs and have now decided to completely abandon the set that should be the more forgiving of the two and go with the “less forgiving” model because, 1.) I find the center of the face more often and misses more frequently favor the toe, and 2.) I’ve had shank issues with the other set and when moving back to try that set again recently I hit a couple of those lousy shanks again. Any miss but a sh-sh-sh-shank!

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      Shane Holtschulte

      3 weeks ago

      I think having blades to practice with could go a long way in making an aspiring player reach their goal, if that goal is improved ball striking. The players distance and GI irons cover up a lot of mistakes which the blades will reveal and give you something to focus on in practice. The downside to that if taken on course would be the significant loss in distance even on center strikes due to lofts. Maybe the answer would be buy a few individual irons (maybe wedge and 7-iron) and spend many hours on the range working on ball striking and don’t be concerned about how far you’re actually hitting it. Who knows might be helpful.

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      ericsokp

      3 weeks ago

      I personally don’t get the infatuation everyone has with blades. When I hear the refrain that “they’ll make you a better ball striker”, etc. my immediate response is that you should then give up your 460 cc carbon-composite driver with the graphite shaft and game a wooden 250 cc driver with a steel shaft, because after all, won’t that make you a better driver of the ball? I see no reason to do anything to make this stupid game harder! ;-)

      Reply

      MarkM

      3 weeks ago

      ’If it wasn’t hard everyone would do it. It’s the hard that makes it great’ – Jimmy Dugan

      Reply

      FEDUPCALIFORNIAN

      3 weeks ago

      100% so true

      Reply

      Mike

      3 weeks ago

      Nothing is more annoying than a mid-or-higher handicapper playing badly w/ some type of blades (or even any type of players’ iron) & then telling me all day’ “I usually am much better than this”! LOL

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      Justin Mateer

      3 weeks ago

      I’m currently a 1.2 USGA handicap and gaming Ben Hogan Icon 4-PW. Approach play is easily the strength of my game, with my GIR for the season sitting just over 70%.
      Last season, I decided to experiment with a set of Mizuno Pro 225s. I loved the way they looked and felt, but unfortunately, the distance control was terrible for me. I ended up selling them about as quickly as possible and went straight back to my blades.
      Personally, I think blades get a bad rap. I’m not going to claim they’re forgiving, because they aren’t, but I do think they’re much more playable than a lot of people give them credit for. For the right player, the control, precision, and ability to flight and shape shots are tough to beat.
      I just happen to be that type of player. My game is built around approach shots and controlling the golf ball, and blades give me the level of feedback and precision I’m looking for. I don’t see myself leaving blades anytime soon.

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      GSW

      3 weeks ago

      I agree with Justin above. I am an average golfer (11 handicap) and have three iron sets: XXIO Prime, Ping i540, and Titleist 620 mb blades. I can hit the XXIO’s and Pings much farther than the Titleists, but I’m not quite sure how much farther! I can hit both of those 7 irons 130 yards or 165. It is a great feeling to launch one, but not the best golfing strategy. The Titleist 620’s go pretty much the same distance every time, and are exceedingly more accurate, even if I miss the sweet spot. The Titleist lofts are so low that I have to remember to use one more club than I’m used to; the Titleist 7 iron is at 35 degrees, while the Ping and XXIO’s are at 27. Here is one caveat: I can’t hit the 620 5 iron. I’m too old (72) and too slow. So, I use a beautiful Mizuno JPX One 9 wood. I did put really sweet Graphite Design graphite shafts in my Titleist 620’s. I highly recommend them, and as John Barba says in the article, when you catch a blade right on the sweet spot, and it goes dead straight at the pin, and exactly the distance you predicted, it creates one of those moments that delivers the joy that brings us to golf.

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      Colliope

      3 weeks ago

      There’s quite a bit to unpack here but Justin kind of nails it. I fluctuate from scratch to a 3 and blades can help you really dial in your game b/c it removes the veil of false or ambiguous feedback more game improvement irons give you. The distance control they provide can really help your game and the look at address is so much more inspiring especially on the shorter irons. Granted, approach game with mid/long irons is a huge weakness but playing blades has really forced me to work on my irons and I’ve seen real improvement. Knowing exactly what you’re doing when you miss is good info if you’ve got time to work out kinks. I think one of the most crucial factors to playing blades (if you’re not a +4 handicap) is that you have time/dedication to working on your game. You have to play/practice more than once a week and do real dedicated practice. The rewards are big but only if you make a real commitment to getting there.

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