What Do You Expect from Your Equipment?
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What Do You Expect from Your Equipment?

What Do You Expect from Your Equipment?

What do you actually expect to gain from new equipment?

Is it 10 more yards, better control, a 4-point drop in your index, or just the satisfaction that comes from tossing new gear into the bag?

Are we being realistic?

I’m not pretending to have the answer; I’m simply posing the question.

It’s Different (obviously) with the Pros

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At a recent Nike Golf event in Los Angeles, I had the opportunity to sit down with Brooks Koepka to discuss both equipment, and the evolving look of golf (the apparel stuff). I asked about his transition to Nike, and how long it took for him to get comfortable with the new gear.

The short answer, “not long”.

What really caught my attention was how Koepka quantified the benefits of his equipment switch.

I was hitting with them, practicing with them. I had my whole team out there [at The Oven]…We tested, and I think everybody kind of looked at each other, one of my coaches was like ‘these woods are at least a shot a tournament better’.” – Brooks Koepka

There’s more to the discussion for sure, and no doubt Nike would have loved it if I included the part where Brooks raves about the new RZN Tour ball, but the snippet above is what’s most-relevant to today’s discussion.

Think about what he said…one shot per tournament. That’s .25 strokes per round.

Yeah…It’s Not the Same

Obviously we’re not quite apples to apples here. We might not even be shopping at the same fruit stand. At the PGA Tour level guys have been properly fit for years (at least you would hope). It’s also true that, for better players – especially tour-level players – the window for improvement is narrow.

But still…one shot over four days? And Koepka’s not the first to tell me that. A few years ago Ian Poulter suggested his benchmark was 1, maybe two strokes in a tournament.

Pros want a stroke a week. We’re being sold improvements by 10s of yards, and nearly as many strokes.

Is that realistic?

Equipment Can Make Us Better

As you’ll see next week (teaser alert), there’s plenty of data that suggests that new gear (specifically a properly fit new driver) can not only give you upwards of 10 More Yards – seriously, it’s true, but can also substantially improve consistency. It is, however, no small detail that we’re talking about properly fit equipment.

Even then…does that always translate to lower scores? Hmm… Let’s hold that thought.

Today’s question; what’s your measuring stick? What do you expect from new equipment? What does it take for something new to replace yesterday’s gamer?

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      David W

      8 years ago

      I’m looking for a good combination of forgiveness, workability, distance, and feel in my irons and I have found it in my i25’s. For my driver (G30) and fairway woods (X2Hot) I’m looking for forgiveness, distance, and feel. I don’t worry so much about workability. For my putter (Scotty Newport 2.5) I’m looking for feel (which includes weighting) and consistent distance on slightly off center hits.

      If I had to put all of this into a word it would be that I’m looking for confidence in my clubs.

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      David W

      8 years ago

      I forgot to mention that custom shaft fitting is what gave me the combination I was looking for in my irons. They came with DG S300 shafts when I was initially fitted but a friend who has been a + handicap for 30 years or more talked me in to doing an actual shaft fitting. I now have KBS Tour Stiff that are soft-stepped. Soft-stepped meaning that they are cut so that the 4 iron has the 5 iron flex, 5 iron has the 6 iron flex, and so one. That gives me the stiffer flex I need but helps get the ball up just a little bit faster without the ballooning I get with a regular flex.

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      SKip

      8 years ago

      You coulda just got them in R+ flex.

      Golfer Burnz

      8 years ago

      I am kind of the opposite. I love going back in time and finding the equipment that is still playable a relevant today. New old stock gets my heart beating.

      Reply

      Dave S

      8 years ago

      I think that not enough emphasis is put on the mental side of the game… and I’m not referring to positive thinking, staying in the zone, etc.; I’m talking about strategy on the course. I don’t think a lot of people put in the time necessary to really map out a strategy for how their going to play – in general – and how they want to attack each hole, specifically.

      The biggest improvement I ever saw in my game came after I read the book “How to Break 90: An Easy Approach for Breaking Golf’s Toughest Barrier”, by T.J. Tomasi. A lot of what you read will seem like common sense, but it’s really not. It’s all about playing within yourself and making the smart choice on every shot. I put this in practice and within 3-4 rounds was consistantly shooting 4-5 strokes better (and breaking 90 most of the time). Obviously, as the book notes, you need to be able to hit decent shots to break 90, but it explains in the very beginning that if you’re knocking on the door of the 90 barrier, you probably already can do so… so it doesn’t waste a ton of time giving you swing advice (there’s some intermediate stuff, which I actually found helpful). Disclaimer: I am not affiliate with this book or the author at all… simply my review. You can get it on amazon used for like $0.01 plus shipping now (link below).

      I think that revising your strategy and approach for each shot is the closest thing to a “quick fix” that there is in golf. You don’t need to overhaul your swing to cut strokes, you just need to overhaul your thought process. If you think about it, there’s really no other sport where a person or team goes out to play where they haven’t considered a strategy to best achieve their desired outcome. Golf should be no different, even for weekend hacks.

      http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0071385592?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00

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      THEHacker

      8 years ago

      In my mind, if my present driver was from the 90’s, or it’s badly fitted to my game, then maybe there would be an extra 10 yards to be found. So technically these companies are probably not making a very big lie. But if my driver is less than 3 – 5 years old, and has bee fitted to my swing, or I have somehow made enough compensation to squeeze the best out of my current driver, then the 10 extra yards in probably B.S.

      So I have pretty much given up on buying new golf clubs unless or until the present one breaks.

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      David Hall

      8 years ago

      When I switched three years ago from a 20 year old set of Ping Eye 2 irons and TM R7 driver to a fitted set of Adams game improvement irons and a similarly-fitted TM R1 driver, I gained on average 10 yards+ per club, and even better, more consistent shots from tee to green. When I put in the work, my clubs perform well. I’m a senior golfer, and brought my index from 28 to 18, and I’m still improving…so yeah, I think in some circumstances new equipment can result in significant gains. (I still give a lot of the credit to the PGA pros at Chambers Bay; their spring and fall clinics have been tremendously valuable!)

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      W.B. Neal

      8 years ago

      I’m a driver junkie. I have lost distance over the years. I buy a driver or two each year. I am looking to keep distance the same or gain a few yards. Getting the right shaft is one of the biggest things for me. I change drivers to regain confidence thinking that the new technology might give me a little more forgiveness. I have long ago learned that the new model will not give you 10+ yards.

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      Steven

      8 years ago

      For the driver, I am looking for distance and forgiveness. For the rest of my clubs I am looking for consistent distances, reliable gapping, and tight dispersion. A new addition to that list is better turf interaction. For years I have been a sweeper and my miss has been low on the club face. A couple of years ago I started making some swing changes and am now more of a digger. For my next set of irons I want something that has better turf interaction than what I currently play. I have heard good things about the Srixon Z series and want to try them this year. Look, sound, and feel are also considerations.

      How much difference would all of this make if I got properly fitted and bought a new set of clubs? I don’t know. Maybe a couple of shots a round. For my good shots, I feel like I could get by with less forgiving clubs. For my mishits, I am happy to have the help that I do have. Perhaps this is where new clubs could help me. Sadly, it seems that most round I have a shot that is so bad that no club can help me, new or old, conforming or non-conforming. I wouldn’t expect new clubs to make a difference on these shots.

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      Regis

      8 years ago

      I’ve played a lot of years and bought and replaced a lot of clubs. I get pumped when I see new technology but more often than not the technology focuses on the club head. When I see a new product the first thing I do is run to the manufacturer’s site and check their shaft options (both stock and available at an upgrade). I need graphite shafts in my irons and lighter weight shafts in my metal woods and hybrids and there is no sense in trying to convince myself that I can get by with a shaft that I know won’t work. Titleist has always offered a wide variety of shaft options with their woods. Now Callaway and Taylor Made have followed suit (The M2 which is TMAG’s less expensive premium driver has over 30 shaft options; the Callaway XR irons have 3 different graphite shaft options)
      My current driver is very consistent but with better trajectory I pretty much play the same tract every time. Maybe one or two holes a round I hit my tee shot 10 yards -20 yards longer than my best drive with its predecessor. Same with the irons-one or two approach shots that I flush and can honestly say were better struck with better feel and results than my previous irons. That’s all I can reasonably expect and I’m happy

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      Thomas Murphy

      8 years ago

      Dan this is a great line to go down 10 yards more than what is always the question about drivers etc. it really depends on your starting point. How old are the current clubs, did you get fit? How have you changed since you bought them? I.e. Older, stronger, creakier, mental and physical change? So I am older my set makeup has shifted not via fitting but my own trying into hybrids my putting stance has evolved etc. so when I refit I hope to get to better gapping, more consistency, and the pleasure of new sticks etc. The reality is I probably should use different clubs than what I will probably buy i.e. I should play PSi but I would rather play PSi Tour or MP25s vs the JPX Ez Forged would be another example. It will cost me may what, a shot a round? Who cares that is caring too much about the result.

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      GerardQ

      8 years ago

      I got fitted and switched equipment for consistency. The new sticks required a learning curve that kinda sucked, but once I got the feel for them: yardages, flights etc, my game got better. Not astronomically, but my misses were predictable, my scores improved by a could strokes, my stats were better (fairways hit, GIR, etc). Putting together 18 good holes remains a challenge, but its more fun now.

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      Troy

      8 years ago

      I don’t expect more distance from a new golf club, but perhaps more so forgiveness and better consistency with contact on the golf ball.

      I’m realistic, I don’t expect miracles!

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      RAT

      8 years ago

      More yardage , buttery feel and accurate. Looks powerful too not the run of the mill . Not a copy of the usual.. I like the C200 Wilson Staff . How much blood will that require at the blood bank?

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      Joe

      8 years ago

      For me it’s about the shaft. I don’t think iron heads change that match every year. I got fitted over time and replaced all my shafts with kbs tour 90 stiff. This has made a luge difference for me but not 4 off my handicap. More like 2 but consistently 78-81 now. The fitter gave me some feedback about swaying and that has made a big difference with chipping. Bottom line I think it’s about fitting for the correct shaft more than anything.

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      Phil Peek

      8 years ago

      Add some best in field training and practice drills to the new equipment and we have ourselves a horse race ;-)!

      Reply

      Drew

      8 years ago

      This site is all about getting you to spend your money. Period.

      Reply

      Eugene Marcheti

      8 years ago

      I’m looking for new irons this year and my buying requirements are pleasing look and feel because golf is such a mental game, a good looking and feeling iron will help with my confidence, consistent distance and tight shot dispersion. I hope to lower my index from 11 to 7 by hitting ten greens per round. Of course keeping the ball in the short grass is paramount and I’m extremely comfortable with my driver. I’m open to any iron suggestions and will be going to a demo day on the last Saturday in March. Thanks

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      michael g

      8 years ago

      Last fall I went to a one hour one/one driver fitting with a nationally recogized fitter. I am 77 years old and play to 9. Hitting a 10.5 driver / reg shaft and carrying consistent 215 yards with a driver that cost me $80 out of the barrel.
      After an hour of shaft fittings, head changes etc. fitter concluded that with his recommendation I could gain 20 yards off the tee. Wow ! Sounded good until the recommended equipment change totaled $645 ( custom made/delvrd). I decided the gain wasn’t worth the expense. That’s just me but at my age it seemed like lot dough. After all, I won’t be amortizing the cost over too long a time. Decided to improve my up and downs and keep the money for greens fees. Besides, there are more used drivers in the barrel.

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      Joe O'Keefe

      8 years ago

      I am 50 years old and play to a 16. For the first time in my life I was fitted for new clubs and ended up with the Callaway XR OS. What the fitting showed me is that I’m not that much longer, than with my store-bought irons (5-yards), but I am straighter and had consistently better strikes with the new clubs. While my expectation is that I will get my index down to 12 this season, that will come from better chipping and putting.

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      Steve

      8 years ago

      To me this all comes down to the fitting process. Who can you trust? If you have an inconsistent swing like most mid-to high handicappers does one “fitting” session really give you the best “fit”? Does a “fitting” just cover up your swing flaws? Not saying he was most qualified, but the most honest fitter I know, closed his business because he couldn’t make the rent. More often than not if you went to him you’d walk away with the same clubs you started with because he’d identify some flaw in your swing, fix it, and you’d gain yards/accuracy.

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      Chris

      8 years ago

      I may be the perfect person for this article. I was fitted with a new driver two years ago. I picked up accuracy and distance. Prior to the fitting I could expect 1 out of ten drives to be in the fairway and distance of that one good drive to be around 250 yards. With the fitted driver 7+ out of ten drives are in the fairway and the minimum average distance is around 270. My short game is crap so strokes gained have been around maybe 5-7 per round. I’m looking at getting fitted for a putter and irons this spring with strokes gained as one of the criteria. I’m thinking I can gain at least 2 strokes per round with a new putter. With the irons I’m thinking I can gain possibly 3-5 strokes per round. As you can guess to have such high expectations I am a high handicapper (95-100). My overall expectation with the new putter and irons would be to shoot an average around 90-93.

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      Allen

      8 years ago

      Koepka’s comment got me wondering. How many stokes would the pro gain if he played the best equipment for his game, instead of the best equipment made by his sponsor for his game?

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      Alex

      8 years ago

      Forgiving irons
      Distance
      Forgiving putter (high moi)

      I play to a 6 handicap

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      Kevin Loughran

      8 years ago

      Lots of interesting comments. I can’t see getting much yardage because I’m pretty well fit for my current clubs. For me it’s about yardage gapping, consistency and trajectory control.

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      mcavoy

      8 years ago

      Bingo

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      Chal

      8 years ago

      I switch equimpment so much it kind of baffles even myself at times. I know with the driver, I am looking at trying to maximize distance but keep it in the short stuff. Since the release of the SLDR, everything I tried couldn’t beat it. That has changed this year. With irons, I had distances that I wanted to achieve with each one. In order to do that, I had to play a more game improvement iron. The RSI 2 actually allowed me to hit the distance numbers I want in a more player centric iron. I use wedges until they die…. I probably switch putters more than anything. Always looking for consistency.

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      Uhit

      8 years ago

      My expectations on new equipment:

      1. better fitted shafts and grips
      2. less offset
      3. better gapping (tighter tolerances)
      4. easy to clean grooves, and a compact head with a (easy to) clean, smooth, design
      5. better sound and feel, at a good impact
      6. robust, anti glare finish (like G30 irons)
      7. iron set beginning at #1 iron with 14.5 deg loft…

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      Kenny B

      8 years ago

      If it’s 10 yards, great! If it’s 2 yards, that would be nice too. I look to new equipment to offset the number of yards that I lost to old age since last year!! LOL

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      cdvilla

      8 years ago

      Speaking as a mid-handicap (10), it’s really important to know your misses. If you tend to miss your driver toward the toe, then you should fit for a driver that performs well off the outer half, Cobra for instance. It’s definitely a game of misses from the long side. Of course, I could clean up my chipping and save a couple of stroke/round but I have this thing called a job that they make me do so I can keep the lights on at my house… :-)

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      Rob S

      8 years ago

      As far as 10 yards improving your game, the local tour I play on all did an experiment one day and decided to play a tournament round from the ladies tees. This essentially made the course play somewhere around 5400 yards instead of 6400 yards.

      When it was all said and done, almost none of our players shot significantly better than they would on a normal round. The tournament average was only 1 shot lower overall. We asked everyone and they all basically told us that they could reach par 5’s in two but would still end up 3 putting or they said they had a 9 iron into a par 3 instead of a 6 iron. Some only had less than 100 yards into a par 4 but still chunked the wedge shot or bladed it over the green.

      Lesson we learned was most of the shots are still made from 100 yards and in so no matter what clubs you’re hitting to get to that point, you still have to pitch, chip and putt well to shoot lower scores.

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      Revkev

      8 years ago

      That’s fascinating, what’s the handicap range of your group? It should have lowered the scores by the difference in course rating from those sets of tees ie. If your 6,400 set were 71 and the short set 68.5 that’s the type of average score reduction you’d expect. Of course within the group there will be anomalies because we all make our handicaps differently.

      I’m curious about this one and would sincerely like to hear more.

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      Rob S

      8 years ago

      Handicap ranges in our group are between 1 and about 18 or so. Some other observations were that some of the better players had a hard time on holes where they couldn’t hit driver because they had to lay up on dog leg holes with irons and hybrids. Sometimes they didn’t know how far to hit clubs and landed in trouble that they normally wouldn’t be in off the tee such as bunkers or O.B.

      Pete S

      8 years ago

      My expectation would be more consistency with more solidly struck shots and fewer bad misses. Equipment isn’t going to take me from a 5 to a scratch, that’s going to come from practice and/or lessons.

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      McaseyM

      8 years ago

      Totally agree. While most improvement is going to come down to proper practice and honing your swing/skills, i would need the new(er) piece to have a better feel, and improve my consistency to a notable amount. Getting something shiny and new is exciting, but most (not all) of my upgrades are bought used or 1-2 seasons behind so I can get good reviews and actually afford it. I honestly have no need for more distance, it’s nice to be able to Ji-Ho the ball farther than my playing partners, but that only gets me so far ( pun intended).
      This is across the board for all equipment.

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