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Here Are 5 Things LIV Actually Got Right

You’ve heard me complain about LIV a lot over the past couple of years. OK, more than a lot.

There have been some good reasons for the complaining. It’s beyond ridiculous that LIV is withering away in relative isolation while the golf world continues to push forward without coming together. In fact, the PGA Tour might not even need or want a reunion at this point—that is how poorly LIV is performing as a product.

And if I were to make a list of everything I dislike about LIV, that list would be closer to 50 reasons instead of just a handful.

Having said that, I’m not all negative when it comes to LIV.

Someone recently asked me in a comment, “Is there anything you like about LIV?”

Yes, there is. You can stop asking now.

Here are five things I genuinely enjoy about LIV.

1. They are creatively investing in YouTube golf

While the Tour has done a solid job with the Creator Classic series, I’m more impressed with what LIV has done in this area.

LIV signed Rick Shiels back in January, which is a good deal for both sides. He’s been pumping out content playing alongside LIV guys.

But what has really been a hit is this “Duels” idea where creators like Grant Horvat and Bob Does Sports collaborate with LIV stars to produce compelling content. The Miami one has more than two million views, making it one of the most YouTube golf popular videos of 2025.

Also, by joining LIV, players like Bryson DeChambeau were able to devote more time to their own YouTube presence. We’ve seen players like Jon Rahm and Phil Mickelson be routine guests for other channels.

More people are watching these types of videos than LIV tournaments.

LIV would be way farther along if they just went 100 percent into YouTube golf right from the start. On-demand competition edited for entertainment is something that works—and it works even more when you include world-class golfers.

2. LIV forced the Tour into some positive changes

Professional golf will probably always be a niche sport with a relatively small audience but TV ratings coming into 2025 were so abysmal that it made us question whether the Tour could survive.

It has survived and a part of that survival is because the Tour has been forced to evolve.

With the threat of LIV, the staid and conservative Tour made some moves it should have been plotting more than a decade ago.

The signature event model, while incomplete, has at least pushed the top players together with more frequency. And the number of Tour cards is starting to get cut, a long overdue move to trim some of the fat from a bloated membership.

And while money isn’t something fans tend to care about, the Tour has invested more into the world of struggling pros who are trying to make it.

The Tour is also making some meaningful progress with reducing commercial load and innovating the broadcast (a long way to go here, but still …).

It’s fair to say many of these changes would not have happened without LIV.

In its creation, LIV absolutely had some valid points to make about professional golf’s structure where top players are not properly rewarded for their value.

Did they make those points the right way? No. Did they capitalize on the opportunity? Not really.

But with a real threat coming into the game, LIV forced the Tour into being a better product.

3. They let their players wear shorts

I won’t die on this hill but I have absolutely no problem with professional golfers wearing shorts for regular events.

I’m not ready for the majors to adopt this but who cares if players are wearing shorts when it’s 95 degrees in Memphis?

I get the idea that pants signify a certain seriousness to the golf but I also think golf will inevitably skew more towards the entertainment element over time.

Shorts gives off a vibe that these players are comfortable. Maybe the golf isn’t as serious but it doesn’t necessarily have to be at every tournament.

I’m fully on board with LIV making this call.

4. They have visited some golf-starved areas

This is the best one by far.

LIV has brought great players to some golf-starved parts of the world such as Australia.

Australia has some of the best courses in the world. It’s a golf-crazed nation. But because of corporate sponsorship (or lack thereof), Australia has been left with little in the way of top-tier professional events.

LIV changed that and the Australians showed up in large numbers to celebrate.

Even within the U.S., LIV has hosted tournaments in a few places that really wanted to see some of the best golfers in the world.

I live in Nashville, which hasn’t hosted Tour golf in many decades. It was a smart idea for LIV to visit a city like that.

I’m a big advocate for golf to be more international and diverse in terms of where the best tournaments go. The Tour has been decidedly mediocre in this area, often visiting the same few countries. Within the U.S., they will put five events in Texas but ignore places like Seattle.

LIV challenged the Tour in this category.

5. The in-person experience is enjoyable

I attended the Nashville event last year and enjoyed the experience.

There is some great access to be had as a fan if you are willing to go away from some of the high-traffic groups/holes. You can watch great golfers with nobody around, if you want.

It’s also more informal than the Tour so nobody has to worry about making noise. With music being played, everyone can talk as play is happening. This makes it nice for families.

The buildout of the event is relatively small but still has all the amenities of a real professional golf tournament. That makes the scale of everything a lot more tolerable.

Obviously it won’t be for everyone but I’ve talked to several people who enjoyed going to a LIV event.

Those are the five reasons I came up with for why LIV isn’t all bad. They got some things right.

Leave me a message in the comments if you think I’m crazy.

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      Kevin S

      1 year ago

      Not everything is black white. LIV is not entirely bad, and the PGA is not completely pure. Phil Mickelson, in the end, should be recognized and appreciated as a who “took one for the team” on behalf of current and future PGA players. He has significantly increased their earnings. Monahan believed he could call Phil bluff, but when Phil left for LIV Monahan panicked & reactively implemented nearly all the changes Phil had suggested. Monahan should have been dismissed long ago for his inept, entirely reactive approach to LIV. Had he been, an agreement could have been reached to incorporate some of LIV innovative ideas (such as the team concept or exploring regions of the world PGA does not visit). LIV and the PGA can coexist I enjoy watching both PGA and LIV—it is still golf. Different does not necessarily mean worse. Why not embrace new? Changes have always been part of sports—consider baseball’s adoption of the designated hitter, expanded playoffs, play reviews the ghost runner in extra innings, and the pitch clock. Without evolution, one risks being left. Maybe not all are good, but to grow your sport interest, you need to evolve, and you only do that by trying new ideas. Youth interest in is at an all-time low, so maintaining the status quo seems unsustainable.

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      Peejer

      1 year ago

      LIV is destined to fail. They aren’t recruiting any top new stars and a number of the players they did pull in are past their prime. Phil Mickelson, Dustin Johnson, Sergio Garcia, Bubba Watson, Ian Poulter, Martin Kaymer, Grame McDowell, Lee Westwood, Brendan Steele are all irrelevant and playing poorly. The money has made them soft, playing resort style courses and they’re shells of their former golfing selves. PGA Tour doesn’t need a deal now, I doubt LIV will be around in 5 years.

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      OpMan

      1 year ago

      Adelaide Australia signed on until 2031, so there’s your 5 years right off the bat.
      Who knows what will happen between now and then for LIV’s expansion, as it works to expand the International Series and the Asian Tour that are all tied with Saudi PIF, being used as platforms for qualification into LIV for those who wish to try and play on a team on LIV.
      International golf is the future and it’s getting bigger by the minute, casting doubt on why the US majors are considered the benchmark when it’s all about money and not prestige or right of place as the trophies to win when most of the US tour players barely travel the globe to test their skills during the year

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      Will

      1 year ago

      We play a lot of junior golf in the UK. Almost every kids favourite player is bryson and lots of the kids play in Liv hats. There has never been a sport (to my knowledge) where it’s been made more informal and shorter and it hasn’t succeeded. (I’m thinking cricket especially)

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      livIsWashed

      1 year ago

      Didn’t I read that they no longer allow shorts at their exhibitions? or did they flip flop on that again?

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      OpMan

      1 year ago

      You read a disinformation paper.
      It’s the majors that are not allowing any shorts

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      Dean

      1 year ago

      The team aspect is the best part of LIV golf. – 4Aces, Crushers GC , HyFlyers, and the IronHeads make it fun.

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      Andrew the Great!

      1 year ago

      1. I have no interest in YouTube golf, and no interest in golf “influencers”. Well…other than Paige.
      2. Why Judas Monahan is still employed by the Tour as Friday marks two YEARS since his betrayal of Tour players is a mystery.
      3. No thanks. They’re professionals, they should look the part. I don’t want to see my pastor or my SCOTUS in shorts. Ditto elite pro golfers.
      4. Good on them.
      5. Good on them.

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      AlCzervik

      1 year ago

      In point #2 you write “the number of Tour cards is starting to get cut, a long overdue move to trim some of the fat from a bloated membership”. In the next paragraph you write “…the Tour has invested more into the world of struggling pros who are trying to make it”.
      How can it be both? And, where is this investment? The billions put in the Tour (because of LIV) will be going to the top players.
      Remember Joel Dahmen on Netflix? The show was a hit, and I don’t think he was ever inside the top 100. I also don’t think he or any other pro between 101-125 on the money list will appreciate your characterization of them.

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      OpMan

      1 year ago

      They even brought back the Q-School because they wanted to OPEN it up again and create stories and one-luck opportunities like it used to be.
      Sure they have cut some of the events down to 120 from 144 or more, and that is not to trim the fat, but it’s more about the PACE OF PLAY, and they also calculated that those who make the cut are now MAKING MORE MONEY than they ever have before, and even those who don’t make the cut have extra cash from sponsors and appearances than ever before.
      Dunno how much the Agent and Manager fees are these days, but they’ve also got a lot more FREEBIES like hotels, cars, food, clothing, etc etc than ever before too that helps them when they aren’t quite making it. This is not 1985 any more……….

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      OpMan

      1 year ago

      Phil has his own channel too, and it’s really fun to watch him let fly.
      Errrr…….. Range Finders. Even the PGA Tour and the LPGA are now forced into at least experimenting with using them because the Pace of Play has got so bad.
      Shorts – yeah, but it’s weird how they allow shorts during practice round at the regular Tour stops already, so why aren’t they just adopting it? Probably because it would signal a total cave-in to what LIV started LMAO

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      Jon Eidukas

      1 year ago

      #4 is right on. LIV at Chambers Bay would be ideal. It seems clear USGA will not be coming back anytime soon. LIV’s scale would be perfect for the venue (great course, but not the easiest for big crowds) and seeing the big names of LIV names would draw good size crowds (by LIV standards) and it would look great on TV in a good time zone for US TV.

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      ericsokp

      1 year ago

      I’m completely on-board with the allowance of wearing shorts! Go by any local muni on Saturday or Sunday, and I’ll bet 95% (or more) of the players are in shorts. Plus, I would think that the PGA Tour would want to lean into the idea that these guys are athletes, so why make them dress like it’s casual Friday at work and they have a meeting with the boss after lunch?

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      Andrew the Great!

      1 year ago

      That weekend warriors at munis wear shorts is hardly an argument for having Tour pros – the elite, best of the best – wear shorts. That’s a massive non sequitur.

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      Jeff Taverna

      1 year ago

      Thanks for some positive info on LIV. You bullet #4 “They have visited some golf-starved areas” shows they are indeed growing the game by bringing professional golf to areas otherwise not able to enjoy pro golf. This is especially true when you look at the venues outside the US. I know you state that their viewership numbers are low, but they are low in the US. When they have a tournament in Singapore, no one in the US is awake and tuning in. Does they are performing poorly? I would like to see the comparison between how many Singaporians are watching PGA golf and how many watch LIV? that would be one measure of LIV success. LIV is indeed here to stay for some time. We should all try a little harder to see that it is a viable option for professional golfers to pursue a career with and a great venue to watch golf and a timely one for TV broadcast predictability.

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      David B

      1 year ago

      Were you wearing clown shoes when you wrote that comment? You said we need to try harder to like LIV because the Singaporean’s may have watched a golf event in their country more than one that may have taken place outside it? Omg, please take them off.

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      OpMan

      1 year ago

      That’s the same as you Yanks watching the NFL within the US, a sport nobody else cares about

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