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5 Reasons TGL Could Fall Flat

Last week, I wrote about how TGL—a simulator league that will feature PGA Tour players—has some space to grab the attention of golf fans in 2025.

Running from January through March, TGL has a lot going for it. That includes a valuable time slot on ESPN and the fact Tiger Woods is going to be a consistent player in the league despite his lack of competitive involvement in Tour golf at this stage in his career.

The format and technology, which you can read about here, is also intriguing. There will be matches featuring three players on each four-man roster, eventually leading to a team playoff. That structure could also make for fertile gambling ground, a space golf hasn’t properly explored to this point.

My opinion on TGL is that it could be a great thing for golf. The TV product should be better than a traditional broadcast and being on ESPN is a huge boost to drawn in casual viewers. Will it revolutionize golf? I’m not willing to go there but I am optimistic that it could be very beneficial for a sport stuck in the mud.

However, there are a few concerning aspects of TGL that could hold it back. If it were to struggle, these elements would likely be the culprits.

In no particular order, here are five reasons TGL might not resonate with people.

1. The teams have no meaning

This one is a head-scratcher, especially after LIV just made the exact same mistake.

The TGL teams are completely arbitrary. Players are representing major cities but most of the players are not from that city. The foursomes have no relationship to each other beyond the fact that everyone is a Tour player. Why is each player on each team? Nobody knows.

And there won’t be home or road games; everything takes place at SoFi Arena in South Florida. So why should these players be representing a city in the first place?

One of LIV’s downfalls is that its teams came together arbitrarily. Players are traded randomly. There is no structure for why a player should be on a certain team.

Why wouldn’t TGL set it up differently? Take your six most popular players and have them be the team captains who draft their own guys: Team Tiger, Team McIlroy, Team Morikawa, etc.

Now we have context. Team Tiger has Justin Thomas on it because Tiger drafted him instead of Max Homa. Then what if the last guy picked plays well? What if the first guy picked plays poorly?

In Season Two, the worst team could draft a player who isn’t competing in TGL—maybe someone who had a breakout year on Tour. Talent comes in and out. There is some intrigue over who keeps their spot and who stays.

The way TGL set it up, there is little reason to root for a specific team. It’s not region-specific because the players don’t identify with that team in the first place. It’s not draft-specific. We don’t know why it came together that way. Why should I root for Tom Kim on Tiger’s team? The only reason is that he’s on the team for reasons nobody understands.

2. The players might not have the personality to make it entertaining

The premise of TGL is that we’ll have full access to the players throughout each match. They will be mic’d up and (hopefully) jawing back and forth to make a more informal and interactive atmosphere.

That is what we regularly see with YouTube golf as great personalities shine through the camera. People are watching to be entertained by jokes as they (sometimes) enjoy good golf along with it.

But what about these players will make them entertaining?

All of these guys play serious golf for a living. They train to be the best players in the world. This isn’t Fat Perez cracking jokes on screen—it’s golfers who are programmed to concentrate and win.

Are any of these players funny? Will it come through on screen? It’s tough for professional athletes to all of a sudden turn on the charm in front of a camera for two hours and there apparently won’t be much in the way of color commentating as the match is happening.

There should be some trash talk and lightheartedness to this game. It’s not real golf and there is nothing meaningful at stake. We should be hearing from the players about what kind of shot they are trying to hit and get their instant reactions. The players need to be less robotic and more expressive.

Having Scott Van Pelt and Marty Smith interviewing the players is promising—those guys are funny and witty—but will the players match that energy each week?

I’m skeptical about that which naturally leads me to the next point.

3. TGL could be way more serious than necessary

Look, TGL will find success if it veers more into the absurd and comedic. This should look absolutely nothing like Tour golf or exhibition golf. It needs to be the opposite of traditional.

There is a structure to the competition, which is fine, but we need more than that. This needs to venture more into Saturday Night Live territory—slapstick comedy with barbs going back and forth. And when it’s not funny, it should be guys trying to pull off crazy shots and reacting expressively.

Kevin Kisner is a full-time NBC announcer and he’s playing in this league. This is not a serious competition and shouldn’t be treated like one.

The winner of this league doesn’t get anything meaningful. It’s not important to win. This is purely for entertainment.

It would be nice to avoid treating this like every shot matters. This is where LIV got caught—it is too similar to normal golf. It’s just a worse version of the normal Tour.

We should watch the first night of TGL and agree that it’s wildly different from the staid Tour vibe. I’m cynical about them getting this right, largely because …

4. The people running this are a part of the establishment

Who is behind TGL?

TGL is being produced by TMRW Sports, a company founded by Woods, McIlroy and NBC Sports executive Mike McCarley. But it’s also being being produced in partnership with the PGA Tour.

Woods and McIlroy are the frontmen but this largely comes down to McCarley and others in the established golf world. McCarley led the NBC Sports golf efforts from 2011-2021 and initiatives like the subscription-based GolfPass and tee-time service GolfNow.

Yeah, I don’t feel great about that.

NBC’s golf coverage has been a total disaster for a long time. Golf Channel, owned by NBC, is in the toilet— just look at their lack of original programming and downright awful morning shows. I’m not sure who uses GolfPass unless you regularly book tee times on GolfNow and want discounts (if you do subscribe, let me know why you like it).

Add in the Tour’s influence here and I’m not exactly expecting this to be “Inside the NBA” from an execution standpoint. It probably won’t be nearly as edgy or funny as it needs to be.

If the people behind TGL were total outsiders to the game, I would feel a lot better about how the telecast will be reimagined. I would also feel better about the TV product if the traditional broadcast was captivating, which is obviously not the case.

Apologies for being scarred by the last few years but I have trouble trusting any pro golf decision-maker at this point.

5. Is this just another cash redistribution mechanism?

Ah, of course, we have to talk about money.

Is the TGL just a thinly veiled attempt to get the top Tour players more money? Is it just a consolation prize to pump up their wallets after they didn’t get the ludicrous sums offered by LIV?

Honestly, I think the answer is yes. At least partially. The Tour has been frantically scrambling to make sure its talent stays in-house and I’m assuming TGL is another play to satisfy players financially.

That worries me on a couple fronts. Are the players here to make a genuine entertaining product for the fans? Or are they here to cash checks and move on with their lives?

The players are going to be responsible for whether this works or not. They have to turn on the charm and act like they are playing with their buddies back home.

If they aren’t invested in that, TGL could crash and burn.

Do you think the TGL will be successful? Let me know below in the comments.

Top Photo Caption: Tiger Woods and Rory McIlroy are driving forces behind TGL. (GETTY IMAGES/Christian Petersen)

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      Ron

      4 months ago

      Real Person
      People always say; life is short make the best of every minute. Why would anyone waste one minute of life to watching ridiculous show.
      This is one of the stupidest ideas I have ever seen.

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      Jim Howell

      4 months ago

      I agree. Golf is an individual sport. I’ve never liked the LIV team aspect and I don’t like the PGA version now. They’re on the cusp of losing everyone’s attention except for the majors.

      Reply

      Cameron

      4 months ago

      This is classic MyGolfSpy click bait crap, being negative before even the first match has aired, this is why I’ve stopped reading anything this website writes, just purely wrote to gather clicks instead and nothing resembling journalism or integrity

      Reply

      Jesse

      5 months ago

      The comment about making the same mistake as LIV, as the teams have no meaning, might be correct from an American point of view, but yet again there is a world outside of America and the PGA. Rippers GC is a team of Australians, Fireball (Spanish + a Spanish speaking Mexican), Stinger (South Africans) and Majestics (mainly English). The teams do mean something to golfers in these countries. There is a world of golf outside of America, but Americans and American journalists seem to always be stuck in their own patriotic walls.

      Reply

      Chadd

      5 months ago

      What would be fun to watch is the same group of guys playing at the classic courses using balata balls, persimmon woods, leather grips, and v-groove irons.

      Reply

      The Bogeyman

      5 months ago

      I’m planning to give it a chance. But this is well written synopsis of what will likely be the reasons this thing fails, IF it does…..

      Reply

      OpMan

      5 months ago

      I would prefer to watch this:
      https://youtu.be/g0t7U1I7alE

      Reply

      Joe

      5 months ago

      For the record, LIV teams are semi-strategically put together with some being based on where they are from. Example Rippers GC being Australian, Stingers are from South Africa and Torque GC being South American. As much hate as MGS gives to LIV at least be a bit more educated on the topic or have someone impartial to educate some of this info. Doesn’t come off great for a golf site who supports Golf as a whole not just PGA or traditional golf leagues.

      Reply

      mg

      5 months ago

      I would rather watch reruns of Shells Wonderful World of Golf.

      Reply

      Tom

      5 months ago

      Come on, do they really think the average golf fan is that stupid. TGL looks nothing more than a LIV lookalike, only to fatten some already rich guys pockets. I have no intention to even look at the first show.
      Now that you mentioned Golf Channel, why in the hell can’t they have some good instructions to help people with their golf game…. And I don’t mean that stupid guy with the coat hangers, buckets you name it and a dumb blond to do his bidding.. Give me a break….

      Reply

      Dpsht

      4 months ago

      Please enlighten me how TGL is even remotely like LIV…… Id10t

      Reply

      OpMan

      5 months ago

      Reply

      ArchieBunker

      5 months ago

      I’ll probably tune in once to see the technology. Hitting into a screen and having a computer tell me what the shot looked like always seemed fake to me. Not real golf. Just another form of video gaming IMO. Insofar as betting is concerned, pretty easy to “fix” a game after the bets are in. Won’t work.

      Reply

      Pete Wells

      5 months ago

      Remember how boring it was to watch your mate play video games while you waited your turn? Well now we will get to watch middle age golfers play, in essence, a video game….
      And mistaking ‘juvenile frat boy’ behaviour for character or ‘trash talk’ for wit is a huge mistake. By the second show it will be excruciatingly boring.
      Pro golf has so little to commend it anymore, and millions of reasons every event to deplore it.
      Not that I’m pre-judging this endeavour in any way!!!

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      Randy Kavery

      5 months ago

      I’ll check out the first match to give it a shot but don’t see spending much time with it. Does the “competition “ really count for anything or is it just a money grab?

      Reply

      Scott

      5 months ago

      I am hopeful but far from confident that this will succeed. Reading this post on “Reasons it could fail” certainly gave me more pause and concern than I expected. I do not watch any YouTube Golf so I don’t have much to compare this to when it comes to entertainment value. If it’s simply treated as “tournament golf” and the competition is supposed to be the start of the show, I could certainly see how this might get boring quickly. Going in with an open mind and considering it’s cold and snowy I’ll be taking in as much golf content as possible whether it’s on Bermuda turf or Tour Strike Turf!

      Reply

      OpMan

      5 months ago

      The shit talking may not really happen at real levels since it’s on ESPN and they can’t spout any foul language so it’s all going to sound boring, and I doubt too many viewers would actually like to hear the Pros hold themselves back from cussing when they hear them cuss on the course all the time, so it will all feel quite contrived and fake.
      Dunno what they are going to do with guys like Hideki, he’ll be speaking Japanese, and are they going to put a mike on him for that, or will he be silent, and that awkward “lost in translation” moments in language barrier may be really clunky and won’t be good TV at all. What are they going to do – have a translator on the fly?
      They’re going to have some silly comedian-host to get through it all, too, right? So it’ll be loud and obnoxious with sound effects and graphics as they try to make it interesting enough to watch, but then if they’re going to go through all that, why couldn’t they have just signed on with Nintendo or something and played “Everybody’s Golf” instead, that has that arcade type silliness and entertainment already programmed in.
      Yeah the teams are so random………….. the need the LIV guys like Phil to come in there and trash talk everybody and crash the party hahaha….

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      Peter

      5 months ago

      I have no interest in or plans to watch TGL. Watching people hit on golf simulators? (Oh, but they get to putt for real on artificial greens.)

      The team aspect is silly, but to be fair, once you get beyond players of high school age, few teams in any sport have any real relationship to their location. How many LA Dodgers lived in the LA area when they grew up? Oregon’s QB grew up in Hawaii, and played for schools in Florida and Oklahoma before moving to Oregon – its just getting the big bucks and a different wardrobe.

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      FakeRichGuy

      5 months ago

      This is perfect for John Daly. Invite him.

      Reply

      Gary Martens

      5 months ago

      I’m hoping this is a winner. I’m really looking forward to the 1st week. Hopefully they take feedback from the people who will be watching and can make or break this product. Here’s hoping it exceeds expectations by a lot!

      Reply

      Robert H

      5 months ago

      I should be part of the target audience. Like LIV golf which I have not ever watched this is completely contrived and you likely are not necessarily rooting for anybody. I may watch it initially just to see how it is presented but truly have no interest in the product being presented. It is like the Skins Game where multi-millionares are playing for pocket change and they are trying to create actual tension. These guys need to be funny and interesting and that is simply not why they made it to the tour.

      Reply

      Chris Keram

      5 months ago

      There should be some meaning to the teams. N S E W US States regional or USA vs Europe vs Asian vs Canada. They could introduce a point system by giving the player 3 different options for the shot with different degrees of difficulty and associate a point value to the success of the shot picked. Ribbing and friendly trash talking required!

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      Eric

      5 months ago

      Are any of these players funny? That’s a concerning question for someone who writes about golf. They’re all established players, their personalities aren’t a mystery in 2024. Well over half of the line up have personalities that should be great for this.

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      OpMan

      5 months ago

      They should have invited John Q Public and Celebrities to make their own teams and play in amongst the Pros in this thing.

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      FakeRichGuy

      5 months ago

      Agreed. Get some YouTube guys involved or have your regular folks/social media personalities get involved.

      I think those opportunities could be funnier to have someone potentially outshoot a pro on a simulator and trash talk them.

      James Hunt

      5 months ago

      I am actually excited to see how this looks. They have some charming players that deserve more screen time. Kisner, Homa, Xander, to name a few. Funny guys with quick wit. If this is more like a Bob Does Sports where comedy is equal to the golfing, I am down for it.

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      MarkM

      5 months ago

      I’m even LESS interested in TGL than LIV golf, and I haven’t watched a second of it since it began. Totally bogus cash grab as far as I’m concerned. Although I am curious who the hell would want to watch simulator golf in the first place.

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      Mike

      5 months ago

      Other than the majors, I haven’t watched a single PGA events since the LIV breakout. Haven’t watched an LIV event either. So there’s a less than zero chance I’ll watch this nonsense.

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      Will

      5 months ago

      The point about the teams having no meaning is one of the first things I cite when explaining to people why I have no interest in watching the NFL, etc. It’ll be a little different with golf since it’s a sport I actually play and have an interest in, but honestly there’s no chance I watch this unless they put it on YouTube. I stopped paying for cable many, many years ago.

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