8 Things You Need To Know About the New Sub 70 859 Drivers
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8 Things You Need To Know About the New Sub 70 859 Drivers

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8 Things You Need To Know About the New Sub 70 859 Drivers

There’s a reason Jason Hiland has an extra spring in his step this holiday season.

Hiland, you see, is the owner-operator of Sub 70 Golf in Sycamore, Ill., and his company has just released a new family of drivers. That, in and of itself, isn’t what’s putting some slide into Hiland’s glide. It’s the fact the new Sub 70 859, 859 Pro and 859 JD drivers have something no Sub 70 driver has ever had before.

A patent.

Well, a patent pending. But it’s still a patent.

“I don’t false-promise stuff to people,” Hiland tells MyGolfSpy. “But this is the biggest leap forward we’ve ever had from one generation of product to the next.”

There’s a lot to know about the new Sub 70 859 drivers so let’s dive right into the deep end of the pool and discuss the eight things that will matter most to you.

Sub 72 859 Pro driver.

#1: The Sub 70 859 drivers are a Renegar-Hiland production

Hiland brought in a ringer to help design the new Sub 70 859 drivers: a ringer named Renegar.

Bob Renegar may not be a household name in golf today, but he does have some serious street cred. In the ’80s and ’90s, Renegar was director of R&D for the Arnold Palmer and Ben Hogan companies and later founded the Solus and Renegar wedge companies. He developed and patented something we take for granted today: a high-bounce wedge with a low leading edge.

Hiland had already started working on the new Sub 70 859 drivers but soon found himself stuck. He previously collaborated with Renegar on the 699 V2 irons and reached out for help.

Sub 70 859 Pro driver.

“Jason is kind of the king of outside-the-box thinking,” says Renegar. “He said he needed something to replace the 849 driver and asked if I had any ideas.”

They started work on the 859 series during the summer of 2021. By the third iteration, both men realized they might be on to something.

#2: That something is the patent-pending ART face

ART stands for Axis of Rotation Technology and is the basis for Sub 70’s utility patent application. According to Renegar, it’s a new way of looking at – and solving – an old problem.

“Current design theory is the clubhead is a free body at impact,” explains Renegar. “Drivers are designed around the belief that if you hit it towards the toe, the clubhead rotates open. If you hit it towards the heel, it rotates closed.

Sub 70 859 driver with ART Face technology.

“The fact is the clubhead is rigidly attached to the shaft. It doesn’t rotate as a free body; it only turns on one axis and that’s the shaft centerline.”

Renegar chose to maximize the moment of inertia by distributing weight around this new idea of club rotation – low heel and high toe – and then redesigned face curvature to match. That puts a new spin, so to speak, on bulge and roll.

“Face curvature is low-heel to high-toe because that’s perpendicular to the way the clubhead actually turns. All you have to do is make the gear effect correction in that one direction.”

If you look closely, the ART face on the new Sub 70 859 drivers does look different. It’s CNC milled from forged beta-titanium and features variable face thickness. It is not, however, AI-designed.

“It’s good old-fashioned human intelligence,” says Hiland. “It’s Bob Renegar’s brain.”

#3: It’s about accuracy and a little ball speed

As any golfer knows, the USGA and R&A limit driver ball speed and OEMs are at about that limit.

“When you hit our new driver in the middle with a 105 mph swing speed, we’ll get one more mile-per-hour ball speed over the 849,” explains Hiland. “We’re happy with that but it’s three yards.”

Sub 70 859 Pro driver.

All OEMs know they’re maxed out in the middle so the new Holy Grail is minimizing ball speed loss on off-center hits. That’s the whole point behind AI-designed variable-face thickness. Renegar and Hiland believe they’ve created a different way of achieving that same thing.

“It’s different enough to apply for the patent,” says Hiland. “We do know, from good players playing it, mediocre players playing it, bad players playing it and robots testing it, that it works.”

Specifically, if you were to hit a driver toward the heel, you can expect to lose a lot of ball speed while imparting a ton of spin. If you’re lucky, it’ll only fade. If not, it’s a hellacious slice. Hit that driver toward the toe and you’re trending toward a low-spinning snap hook. The new Sub 70 859 drivers minimize the right or left miss while also minimizing ball speed loss.

“A heel shot won’t spin as much,” says Hiland. “It reduces spin and the amount of curvature and ball speed is very close to a center hit. It’s still going to go right, just not as much. Since it has more ball speed, it’ll go a little farther.”

It’s the same with a toe shot that snaps left (for the righty) with low spin and you’re yelling at it to get down.

“The spin rate goes up so it stays in the air longer and it doesn’t snap as hard. It has a little softer draw.”

#4: Does it work? So far …

My thought process off the tee is that since I paid for the entire clubface, by golly, I’m going to use the entire clubface. (It evens out wear over time.) My experience with the standard Sub 70 859 driver (there are Pro and Pro-JD models which we’ll discuss later) lends some credence to Hiland’s and Renegar’s claims.

Launch monitor numbers show lower spin and more playable flight, especially on hits toward the heel. Usually, that’s a recipe for an “uncontrollable fade” for me. With the Sub 70 859 driver, I noticed lower spin overall and lower fade spin. On the course, I noticed that on three separate holes where, based on how the impact felt, I just knew I’d be in the trees on the right. In each instance, however, the ball landed on the right side of the fairway or in the right rough. They weren’t bombs, mind you, but I did get some distance. Most importantly, I could find them and hit them again.

Sub 70 859 driver

I had similar results on toe strikes. I can snap-hook anything and I did a few times with the Sub 70 859. However, slight toe hits that might have wound up in trouble on the left did remain in play.  All in all, I didn’t notice massive distance gains but less-than-ideal shots were in play and seemingly a little longer.

MyGolfSpy’s 2025 driver test will be able to provide a more in-depth and #datacratic evaluation. Based on a launch monitor session and two late-season rounds, the results, while not conclusive, are promising.

#5: Sub 70 859 drivers ain’t magic but the tech appears useful

“You can still mishit this thing with a really bad swing, don’t get me wrong,” says Hiland. “But if you’re missing the sweet spot by three-quarters of an inch, that’s where the mishit won’t be nearly as punishing. That’s what this tech does for you.”

As mentioned, this is Sub 70’s first patent pending and the company fully expects the application to be approved in due course. It’s important to understand, however, that Sub 70 hasn’t reinvented the driver. It has simply developed its own technology to achieve a certain goal. It’s Sub 70’s way of saying, “We want this to happen and this is our unique way of doing it.”

“This was three-plus years of work,” says Hiland. “We didn’t rush it because we knew it had to look right, sound right and perform right and we didn’t want people to set it down, look at it and go, ‘Oh, shit.’ We want people to go, ‘Oh, shiiit.’

“You want the right kind of ‘Oh, shit.’”

There are also carbon fiber sole panels to aid performance. The standard 859 has a sole panel on the toe to make it easier to close the face. The 859 Pro and 859 JD have panels on the heel to keep the face open for a fade bias. The standard 859 also has what Renegar calls “Aerodynamic Fences” on the crown, a Sub 70 take on PING Turbulators.

Sub 70 859 driver.

“My degree is in aerospace,” Reneger says. “It’s nibbling at the edges but if it provides one or two more miles per hour swing speed, it’s worth the trouble.”

The 859 Pro and JD models do not have Aerodynamic Fences. Presumably, players who fit into those drivers don’t need the extra help.

#6: It puts Sub 70 in the driver technology conversation

If I’ve learned anything in my years of writing for MyGolfSpy, it’s that golfers do not want a $399 driver. What they really want is a $600 driver to cost $399.

Direct-to-consumer companies have traditionally been able to compete with the big OEMs in irons and wedges. From a technology perspective, drivers were a bridge too far. Sub 70 believes ART and the new 859 driver series change that equation.

If this driver had a Big Five OEM name on it, they’d be charging 600 bucks for it.

“That would simply be the retail cost of the driver,” explains Hiland. “The retailer has to make a couple hundred bucks themselves. If we were in the traditional game, this would have to retail for $600 for both us and the retailer to make a reasonable profit.”

Therein lies the appeal of direct-to-consumer. There’s no extra step involved before it gets to the end user.

“I’m not sure where everyone else will be next year but we’ll be at least $200 less expensive,” Hiland says. “We make the same margin but are you getting as good of a shaft? Do you want it 44-¾ inches, swing-weighted to a D3 with a midsize grip and two-and-a-half wraps under it? That’s what we do.”

Sub 70, like the other DTC companies, has made nice little drivers that you could play good golf with and weren’t that expensive. What Sub 70 has now is a driver technology platform it can build on for several generations. It’s more expensive than past Sub 70 drivers but Hiland says it is what it is.

“I wanted to make a great driver, to hell with the cost. We’re a direct-to-consumer company but we’re trying to make the best equipment in the world.”

#8: Excited? You better believe it

I’ve spoken with Jason Hiland enough times in my career to notice a difference in his voice. He’s always excited about his new products but this time it’s different. You can hear it.

“Can you imagine how cool it is to get a call from Tommy Armour III, John Daly or Tag Ridings and hear them say, ‘Jesus, Jason, this thing is fantastic. I’m not sending it back.’”

Hiland says that what’s even more gratifying is the feedback he’s been getting from regular golfers.

“It’s that call from a mid-handicapper trying to control his fade/slice telling you he’s cut his fade in half; it’s staying in the fairway and it’s longer because it’s not spinning as much. One guy said, ‘What the hell did you do to this thing?’

“That’s pretty cool, too.”

More than anything, however, Sub 70 believes its new 859 drivers put it in the driver conversation with the large OEMs for the first time. It’s not in a price-locked DTC box anymore.

“There’s more than one way to do this,” says Hiland. “Callaway, TaylorMade, Titleist, PING and the others, their drivers have never been better. Golf equipment in general has never been better.

“We just feel at this point we can honestly say that we are in the conversation and will be from this point forward.”

Sub 70 859 drivers: Specs, price, availability

The new Sub 70 859 drivers are all available on the Sub 70 website. As mentioned, there are three models.

The standard Sub 70 859 is 460cc and is available in 9-, 10.5 and 12.5-degree models for lefties and righties. The hosel is adjustable up or down two degrees. It features a 12-gram heel weight and a 6-gram toe weight, with extra weights available for purchase. A real deal Project X Denali Blue 50 shaft is standard, along with the Lamkin Crossline 360 grip.

The Sub 70 859 Pro is 450cc and is more fade-biased. It’s available in 9- and 10.5-degree lofts in right-handed only. The Denali Blue 60 shaft and Lamkin Crossline 360 grip are standard.

There’s also a special edition Sub 70 859 JD driver available, made in conjunction with and specifically for John Daly.

“There’s going to be a cult following for this one,” says Hiland. “If you’re looking for a really low-spin driver and have some swing speed, the JD setup could be good for you.”

The 859 JD comes in one 8-degree loft (adjustable) and in right-handed only. The Denali Blue 60 and Black 60 are stock shafts with the Lamkin Crossline the stock grip.

As always, Sub 70 offers a variety of no-upcharge and upcharge shaft and grip options. The standard and Pro Sub 70 859 drivers sell for $399. The JD model sells for $449.

For more information, visit www.golfsub70.com.

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      Randy Siedschlag

      4 weeks ago

      This has me curious. I am going on season four with my gamer. Feel like the ball speed isn’t as high as I was getting. Also looking for more forgiveness. I could stay with cally but $209 cheaper sub70 and Tour Edge seem like winners. The customization with sub70 may put them over the top for me. Now what head to go with. I launch high with my riptide lx 6.5 so maybe the pro but is that forgiving enough for me. The std sounds great. Might just need to bite the bullet.

      Reply

      Mark

      1 month ago

      I just bought the 859 and after a 3 sessions at the simulator I can’t say enough good things. Like the article states, misses don’t seem like misses at all. The only bad miss I’ve managed was an awful swing. I upgraded to the HZRDS smoke black shaft and have no problems finding the middle of the face.

      It’s a gorgeous club at address, I felt confidence in it before I even took a swing. I recently tested out the Qi10 and found the 859 had better feel in the face, better forgiveness and similar distance.

      Reply

      C

      1 month ago

      “It features a 12-gram heel weight and a 6-gram toe weight, with extra weights available for purchase.”

      I do believe that the driver is shipped with all the weights, although I imagine you can still buy more if you want.

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      Jason

      1 month ago

      yes also comes with 2 4 8 10 14 and 16 gram weights

      Reply

      Foola Sheet

      1 month ago

      Like we need another driver on the market.

      Reply

      Jason

      1 month ago

      Well, when you own a golf club company that is what you do. Come out with new products every few years that are better than the previous generation.

      Reply

      Pat

      1 month ago

      I bought the 859 pro as soon as it came out. I can confidently attest that miss hits stay in play, and that this thing is a low spin killer. It looks great, sounds great, and when you crush one off the sweet spot? Oh yeah. It just goes. I’m glad I waited for this driver. It is on par or better than all the other stuff I have from them. Worth every penny, and then some.

      Reply

      James

      1 month ago

      I spied these the other day on Sub 70’s website, and they’re gorgeous…can’t wait to see some testing results!

      Reply

      Les Spradley

      1 month ago

      John what do you think about the New sub70 driver for senior golfers? My current driver is an adjustable 12*.

      Reply

      John Barba

      1 month ago

      Hi Les — depends on your swing speed. I’m 64 and the stock Denali works pretty well for me. Sub 70 does offer lighter-weight shaft options depending on what you might need. The Cleveland HiBore XL Lite is also a pretty good option if you need a light driver – but it maxes out at 12 degrees. You can loft the Sub 70 12.5-degree head up to 14.5 if you need it.

      Reply

      Jason

      1 month ago

      The tech works with all speeds

      Reply

      Scott

      1 month ago

      Lots of intriguing new models this year including this one that may convince me to be in the market for a new driver ahead of schedule. I’ll have to look for a Sub 70 fitter near me and check them out. My new irons from last year are Sub 70 and I love them. Don’t hit them as far as my last irons, but I’m hitting them more solid with better feedback and much better accuracy. Plus Sub 70 has industry leading customer service.

      There’s not a aim point on the crown – I wonder if we’re to assume that the turbulators point to the sweet spot?

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      Kuso

      1 month ago

      So it has a Taylormade adapter?
      What’s all this about being aerospace designer and all the hype language in this advertorial about how it took them 3 years design it, but they didn’t bother designing their own adapter????

      Reply

      Scott

      1 month ago

      Where did you see that? But if that’s accurate its because a) there’s not a third party OEM for something like adapters, and b) OEMs want their proprietary driver making you locked in to their products. Its like what Apple was doing with cable adapters.

      Also, should they have to design their own for every component? Why not just extend it to the shaft and grip? How dare Ping use Lamkin when they should be designing their own.

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      Kuso

      1 month ago

      How do you compare a grip to the adapter, the adapter which is an integral part of the head design and how that head works? LMAO

      Rich

      1 month ago

      Why in the world would you want a proprietary adapter? If it is TM, that’s a huge bonus for a lot of people who might be coming from an old TM, or people looking to buy a used shaft online that already has the adapter. I can’t think of a single reason why it would be better for the consumer to have a Sub-70 specific one.

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      Kuso

      1 month ago

      Because…… it’s not a Taylormade driver, nor is it owned by Taylormade LMAO and they’re supposedly a proud DTC, independent manufacturer doing something different.
      But I guess not.
      LMAO

      Joe L

      1 month ago

      Because maybe they have a shat they like but not the head. Sub 70 allows the consumer to install the head on an existing shaft. Just like I did with my old TM M4. Saved me money.

      Jason

      1 month ago

      There was no reason the reinvent the wheel on that. The adaptor works great. Also we wanted to be able to sell just the heads to client that had the 849 and since the adaptors are the same, they can just put on the new head if they already have a shaft they like.

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      Robin

      9 seconds ago

      Brilliant I wish there was a standard.
      I have a ton of shafts I bought on eBay with a variety of different adapters.
      Most of the time I just buy the head.
      You made part of this world better.

      Mike

      1 month ago

      So now the glut of people who play Taylormade drivers can easily throw their shafts in here. Brilliant idea.

      Reply

      HikingMike

      1 month ago

      Wanting another unique and non-compatible shaft adapter from a smaller company… what a strange hill to die on.

      It seems that their design work went into the actual innovative things. Saving their resources and using a known quantity existing quality adapter with widespread usage just makes sense for them and customers.

      Reply

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