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It’s Been Two Years Since LIV Signed A Top Player

When I first started at MyGolfSpy a little over two years ago, my opening column was about Jon Rahm’s move to LIV and the ramifications (Rahm-ifications?) it would have on the golf world.

Shortly after Rahm joined, Tyrrell Hatton came over to LIV as another world-class talent.

At the time, it felt like LIV could slowly bleed the PGA Tour dry by signing away its top players. The Tour seemed vulnerable throughout much of 2024 as TV ratings were down, fan apathy was up and the potential for more player defections loomed.

But it turns out that Hatton was the last player of consequence to join LIV.

Sure, LIV has nibbled around the edges by signing players like Anthony Kim, Tom McKibbin, Thomas Detry and Victor Perez—but none of them has moved the needle in a meaningful way.

Now it’s been reported by multiple outlets that Akshay Bhatia, the 23-year-old who has won twice on the PGA Tour, recently turned down a lucrative offer from LIV. Bhatia is not a superstar but he would have been LIV’s biggest signing since Hatton.

In the past two years, LIV has gained very little and lost one of their premier talents in Brooks Koepka.

Now they are struggling to sign players like Bhatia, a guy ranked 46th in the Official World Golf Ranking.

Why has LIV been unable to sign players?

In my mind, there are a handful of answers for why the game’s best have stuck with the Tour instead of bolting for LIV.

Perhaps most notably is the increased cash flowing into the Tour as the signature event series has $20-million purses and the Players Championship has a $25-million purse. The increased money was, of course, a result of the competition with LIV.

During the 2021-2022 Tour season, the average earnings amounted to $1.6 million. This past year, it was $2.3 million. Given the number of members, that is a substantial increaseand almost all of it is going to the top tier of players.

The median payout for LIV players was $3.73 million, with the average slightly above that.

Yes, LIV players make more on average—but it’s not really that much of a difference. And the top players on the Tour are still making a lot of money.

The Tour appears to be in a stable position with decent TV ratings and enough corporate sponsorship backing to keep their model going. And the idea of scarcity with its future tournament schedule being limited will probably appeal even more to the top players.

At the same time, LIV hasn’t really gained momentum and there are questions about how long the Saudis will want to invest in golf if the return is going to be this minimal.

I think there are a few other reasons Tour players are staying put, however.

  • LIV players have, for the most part, seen a decrease in performance. Bryson DeChambeau is the only exception among the top tier of LIV players. There are only three LIV players in the top 50 of the Data Golf rankings that take all professional golf into account. For golfers still wanting to remain competitive, the evidence hasn’t been great that LIV will be helpful.
  • LIV still hasn’t qualified for OWGR points so most of its members have been unable to qualify for majors that way.
  • Many of the initial perks that LIV offered—such as paying fines for DP World Tour members—are no longer on the table.
  • Some players have seen their reputation injured. Or the golf world has forgotten about them.

If you add all of that up, there is less incentive for top players to jump to LIV.

So what happens now?

With the Tour and LIV unlikely to unify any time soon, I don’t see how LIV is going to attract better talent unless there is a dramatic change in its product.

One potential change could be the OWGR points. LIV recently switched to 72 holes in hopes that they will meet the criteria for the OWGR.

That is an improvement but LIV is still mainly an invitational series with minimal qualifying or threat of losing a spot. It’s hard to see how they are going to bypass those hurdles but we will find out.

In the meantime, LIV will do well just to retain its top talent like DeChambeau, Rahm and Hatton.

Do you see LIV signing more players in the future? Let me know below in the comments.

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      itsteetime

      6 months ago

      I tried to watch LIV 3 or 4 times before being so bored that I could not take more than about 15 minutes. Rarely saw more than 1 or 2 shots in each attempt to watch.

      I felt bad for David Feherty. He sounded bored and could not use any of his snappy dialog … there was no reason to.

      Reply

      HikingMike

      6 months ago

      “Now it’s been reported by multiple outlets that Akshay Bhatia, the 23-year-old who has won twice on the PGA Tour, recently turned down a lucrative offer from LIV.”

      Smart move kid! You are super young. You have more money than you know what do do with. Times are great, with hopefully more great times in the future. The PGA has more prestige, feel of competition, the real deal, etc. I think that makes sense as someone looking to the future.

      Liv on the other hand probably makes more sense to people that feel like they’ve “made it” to one degree or another and don’t mind grabbing a big ol bag of cash, with an option to coast a bit if they want.

      Caveat: I say this as someone who doesn’t watch either, haha

      “During the 2021-2022 Tour season, the average earnings amounted to $1.6 million. This past year, it was $2.3 million. Given the number of members, that is a substantial increase—and almost all of it is going to the top tier of players. The median payout for LIV players was $3.73 million, with the average slightly above that.”

      Do we know what the median is for the PGA Tour out of curiosity?

      Coming soon: Emirates Grass League

      Reply

      Tom Powers

      6 months ago

      Interesting discussion points and mostly spot on for your suggestions. However, you have only used the PGA Tour for comparatives–LIV is Global. Bring into your thinking/researching Japan, S. Korea, Austrailia, etc., etc. Golf is a huge game with quality player growth globally. I do a lot of volunteer work for some collegiate conferences and find that some 25% of those playing (Div 1 and Div 2) come from outside of Americal. Look at the LPGA Tour–top players from outside of America. Look at the new Chief of the PGA (much quality experience and sucessful guy), as his new model begins to take on the NFL structure approach…there is a top Half of Teams Good-Great; there is a bottom Half of Teams Uch!! My point?–the PGA Tour, as quality of play, is shrinking. I will surely tune in to watch those top player go at it :)! But I won’t spend much time watching the minor leagues; nor will I spend any significant money to advertise on those minor league games/tours. LOVE GOLF-Wish I Was A Better Player !!

      Reply

      Colby Goodson

      6 months ago

      I think signing some good youtube golfers would help LIV. Viewership would go up. Also add different format weeks with some money on the line.

      Reply

      Pete W

      6 months ago

      Surely, for the Saudis, LIV was only ever about sportswashing their awful reputation. And in that respect it is mission accomplished – there’s hardly any criticism on moral grounds anymore, and talks to unify with the PGA Tour only legitimises LIV further.
      Money talks (or indeed swears) and golf, being inherently elitist and right wing, has listened intently.
      The Saudis have more than enough spare cash to keep bankrolling LIV and any amount of annual loss for eternity if they so wish. So LIV will continue until that form of sportswashing is no longer required – probably once the PGA Tour offers them a place at their table. And that’s something they definitely will do because of the money the Saudis will bring.

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      Sean

      6 months ago

      I’ve never bought the synthetic outrage that people have against Saudi Arabia when they’ve watched (without question) golf and other sports taking place in China, Qatar, Dubai, Russia and even the USA as all of those have (or have had) questionable issues in regards to human rights and other violations and bad practices yet people focus their ire on a country that most Americans couldn’t even find on a map, far less know anything about.

      Not only that, but they’re more than happy to have computers, phones and golf equipment made in China or some sweatshop in Bangladesh or Vietnam, so this laughable boycotting of LIV is hilarious.

      I don’t watch LIV because it’s a wretched product which is cheesy in the extreme, not because of some fabricated objection to a regime that most people know virtually nothing about.

      Reply

      Sean

      6 months ago

      You can’t really confect a sports empire out of nothing.
      Just as virtually no one is interested in Saudi League Football (soccer to you yanks), you can’t just magic up interest in some laughably stupid golf tour and it’s cringeworthy team element.

      LIV is every bit as useless and pointless as the laughable TGL.

      Reply

      John Paton

      6 months ago

      JP
      I have never been a LIV fan nor a watcher – I agree with your analysis and cannot see any player of significance going to LIV in the future – the momentum has certainly eroded – I am also of the view that initially going with less than 72 holes as a tournament DNA cost them in the long run as it should have been painfuuly obvious that OWGR points were only ever going to be earnt with 72 holes and the OWGR is controlled by where the high ranking tournaments are played wihich in turn is controlled by money which is the PGA Tour which is why PGA Tour players are high on OWGR – simple domino affect – what does puzzle me however is why LIV if it trully wanted to be successful didn’t bankroll the DP World Tour and influence the DP out of any alliance with the PGA Tour.

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      Rex Haw

      6 months ago

      Is LIV going to change its name to LXXII?

      Reply

      itsteetime

      6 months ago

      LXXII … really roles off the tongue. :D :D :D

      Reply

      Gary Cuthbertson

      6 months ago

      Does the shotgun start format limit the need for more players in their stable?

      Why sign more players if there aren’t spots in their events?

      Reply

      Duffer1

      6 months ago

      One big incentive to stay is where the big money comes from: Endorsements! Srixon, Titleist, and others pay big for PGA players to adorn their logos, but won’t pay a dime for golfers on LIV that no one watches or attends.

      Reply

      Kevin

      6 months ago

      This is not accurate. LIV players do have equipment/apparel sponsorships.

      Reply

      mg

      6 months ago

      I only care about 3 majors. And Augusta is not one of them.The PGA and LIV is worse than watching paint dry.

      Reply

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