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The PGA Tour-LIV Partnership Is Dead

Back when the pandemic first started, everyone had the same question:

When the hell is this going to end?

A lot of historians and experts in the science community had similar answers. More or less, pandemics end when enough people agree they are “over” for them.

That means the new “normal” takes place of the “old” normal.

There was no specific date where everything moved to the new normal. COVID-19 still continues, to the extent where there are meaningful illnesses and annual vaccine recommendations.

But, at some juncture, society agreed that it was done. We would all live with COVID and the world continues to spin on as it always has.

This PGA Tour-LIV saga has been a lot like the pandemic in terms of that slow progression into a “new normal.”

There was the initial rush of drama, panic and intrigue in 2022 when LIV Golf disrupted the pro golf world and punctured the Tour by taking some of its top talent.

There was mass confusion and hysteria when the two sides made a handshake agreement to come together for what was first called a merger (not really a merger).

There were bold proclamations about how different this new world would be. I made some over the years.

But, in the end, although so much has changed, water has found its level. The new status quo already feels established and familiar, like we’ve been living it for two decades.

Pro golf is different than it used to be—but not by nearly as wide of a margin as we thought.

The Tour and LIV continue to coexist more than 26 months since signing the framework agreement that never delivered anything official.

The air of controversy has slowly leaked out of the balloon. Where has it led us?

Not too far from where we started, honestly.

The Tour-LIV partnership is going nowhere

As I wrote about earlier this year, the Tour feels like it’s in a position of total power right now.

It certainly got a scare over the past few years as some of its talent was poached and TV ratings took a nosedive, bringing the future viability of the whole operation into question.

The Tour scrambled to make fundamental changes like creating signature events, bolstering purses and limiting the number of full-time cards available. The existential threat of LIV bleeding them dry in an arms race was a huge factor in that.

But circumstances changed over time.

First off, viewership has largely stabilized. It’s nothing glamorous compared to other sports—pro golf is still a niche offering in the grand scheme of things—but it’s been at a functional level this year.

Golf on CBS garnered its most viewers in seven years. The network’s weekend coverage averaged 2.969 million people per tournament in 2025, up 17 percent from last year. And 14 of the 19 final-round telecasts saw a year-over-year ratings jump. 

While it’s been a mix of ratings increases and decreases for Tour events, the results have been fairly positive. Given the rise of YouTube golf and ever-shortening attention spans, there are still serious questions about whether younger generations will watch the Tour now and in the future—but that is a worry for another day.

There has been a lot of sponsor turnover among lower-tier Tour events, but that is to be expected when you prioritize signature events. Those top-tier tournaments have mostly avoided sponsor issues.

The Tour feels like its product is popular and operational without an influx of Saudi money or the addition of other players.

Can it improve? Of course.

Does it have to improve to survive? In the scope of the next 10 to 20 years and beyond, the answer is probably yes. But in the short term, the sky is not falling like it appeared to be.

Meanwhile, LIV remains an afterthought. The Tour’s TV audience is some 17 times larger than LIV’s. There were no excuses this year, and yet there is little to no buzz around the circuit. Outside of notable exception Bryson DeChambeau, several of the league’s stars have become ghosts since switching to the rival league (can anyone check on Cam Smith to make sure he’s still alive?).

Several prominent players are getting close to the end of their deals. DeChambeau and Brooks Koepka have contracts expiring at the end of 2026. A handful of others, such as Phil Mickelson, Bubba Watson and Ian Poulter, are closing in on retirement.

There is the prospect of having to invest more money—renewing player contracts and bringing in fresh blood—into a product that has been losing almost $400 million per year.

LIV could definitely benefit from a Tour partnership, but why does the Tour need LIV? They might want a few players back, but they could be getting those guys back in a couple of years regardless.

The Tour is automatically a better product, if for no other reason than its $700 million per year TV contract on main broadcast channels. Until that is up (in 2030), the Tour will continue to dominate.

So, for the time being, there is no deal to be made. There are fewer and fewer rumblings of negotiations, and who knows how genuine those efforts were in the first place.

The Tour is in a position of strength that could only change if LIV magically turned into a successful business.

Why LIV hasn’t been able to lure more talent

While a better payday might sound nice for a depth player on Tour, there is also the threat of having no way back to the Tour.

Just look at Hudson Swafford. He played five LIV events in 2022 and, according to him, won’t be allowed back on the Tour until 2027.

“I don’t know how you can come up with a five- or five-and-a-half-year suspension based on how I played five events while the PGA Tour season was going on in ’22 that I wasn’t able to get media releases for,” he said on the Subpar Podcast.

That is a harsh punishment. Even LIV players who never had any Tour status have to sit out a year before coming back.

The reduction to 100 full-time Tour cards (starting next year) might leave some depth guys and former stars with more playing opportunities on LIV, although that won’t move the needle.

And in terms of star players, Tour purses have increased and the game’s best have more access to guaranteed paychecks because of limited fields. The Tour is only catering to those top guys more in the coming years.

Some of the second-tier Tour players on the border of making the Tour Championship might be swayed to stay because of better access to the majors. LIV is trying to solve its long-standing Official World Golf Ranking problem but their argument for points has always been tenuous at best.

The circuit meets virtually none of the well-established OWGR criteria, which mandates realistic qualification pathways and the ability to lose your spot due to poor play.

So far, LIV “relegation” has been a farce. They have just been picking and choosing who they want to stay, regardless of their finish in the standings.

When you add up all of this, there isn’t a lot of incentive for big-name Tour players to jump ship.

We’re coming up onto two years since Jon Rahm and Tyrrell Hatton left. There hasn’t been much movement since then.

Forget the greater good

I think most golf fans want the best players together on a consistent basis.

That is not a priority for pro golf’s stakeholders.

The Tour’s loyalty is to its membership and sponsors—not to professional golf as a whole, and certainly not to fans. New CEO Brian Rolapp’s job is to put as much money as possible into the pockets of players, executives and sponsors. It’s a business.

The best business move is not to partner with LIV (and that’s not even mentioning all of the obstacles that come with trying to maneuver through Department of Justice scrutiny in getting a deal done).

Two years ago, when LIV was taking talent away from a reeling Tour, playing that card might have made more sense.

Not anymore. The Tour is doing fine and LIV never progressed.

I like what Scottie Scheffler said this year: “If we want to figure out why the game of golf is not back together, go ask (LIV players). Go to wherever they are playing this week and figure out when the game is going to come back together.”

While the Tour is far from blameless here, the scrutiny should be on LIV. Had the league made an intriguing product, that would have put the Tour in a terrible spot. A partnership would have been inevitable. The entire concept of pro golf could have changed.

Instead, LIV gave us a worse version of the Tour—worse players on worse golf courses on worse TV networks, all with even less at stake.

Because of that, the Tour and LIV will continue to coexist separately. The Tour will be fine but a little watered down from what it was.

Is the pro golf war over? Who decides such a thing?

We all decide it when we go back to what feels like normal.

And, right now, this “new” version of pro golf is feeling pretty damn normal.

Top Photo Caption: New Tour CEO Brian Rolapp won’t be rushing to get a deal done with LIV. (GETTY IMAGES/Tracy Wilcox)

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Sean is a longtime golf journalist and underachieving 10 handicap who enjoys the game in all forms. If he didn't have an official career writing about golf, Sean would spend most of his free time writing about it anyway. When he isn't playing golf, you can find Sean watching his beloved Florida Panthers hockey team, traveling to a national park or listening to music on his record player. He lives in Nashville with his wife, Anja, and dog, Hogan.

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      Bill Bothwell

      10 months ago

      The LIV players made their decision to leave the TOUR. Without the TOUR they are unknowns. Now that they have made their choice—good riddance–so long– hasta luego–see ya’–bye-bye–don’t ask to come back–YOU’RE GONE…………..billybob

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      Flea

      10 months ago

      “Meanwhile, LIV remains an afterthought.”

      This is the USA centric commentor’s issue.
      The USA, is not the be all and end all (and not just in golf).
      If you don’t agree you are not watching closely enough.

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      James

      10 months ago

      Basically Saudi money is attempting to whitewash cutting up bodies. I also am not sure the best players went to LIV. As I attempted to watch and saw shots I hit 😳as it appears they don’t really care. Maybe 5-10 players are still in prime.. It’s the middle age tour

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      Steve H

      10 months ago

      To my eyes, LIV’s primary problem is their product pales in comparison to the Tour, even with music blaring, their participants wearing shorts, and the audience getting see a lot of inconsequential shots. Today’s LIV telecast from Chicago was soooo boooring that I literally fell asleep after 10 minutes, as even the participants and broadcast team seemed disinterested and on site spectators seemed sparse at best. Thankfully, I awoke just in time to see a thrilling back 9 and playoff duel between Justin Rose and JJ Spaun at the St Jude… an old grizzled veteran versus a blossoming star still coming into his own. The audience got to see fantastic drama and actual shots that mattered, both to win the tournament and for those at the bottom rungs, a chance to move on to the next round. Can the PGA produce this every week.. NO, this is pro golf after all, an inherently slow to develop and kinda tedious affair, but I can’t imagine LIV ever producing this type of drama because of their tournament format is truncated to 54 holes, making a late Sunday charge an impossibility, and the simultaneous singles and team aspects seem strange and at odds with each other. Sports washing and You Tube likes can only go so far if the vast majority of the golfing public is not buying what LIV is selling.

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      JalanK

      10 months ago

      Too many people drank Greg Norman’s kool-aid and are now choking on it.

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      Livininparadise

      10 months ago

      MGS does censor a number of comments addressed against the PGAT.

      While I agree with a number of points in this article, the PGAT is in no way thriving since LIV poached some top players. The best players need to play against each other more.

      Also, the PGAT plays on some mediocre tracks (detroit, Minnesota, la Quinta, Scottsdale, mexico, etc), LIV’s courses do not take a back seat to those.

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      AAB

      10 months ago

      Reposting as the comment was deleted by MGS. Nothing inappropriate below, so surprised by the blatant gatekeeping. Lost some respect for this site.

      Your premise is off and demonstrates a lack of objectivity. LIV routinely plays better tracks (Valderrama, JCB, Sentosa, etc) than it’s PGAT counter tournament each week. It also has relatively better fields ever single time. The team element is a positive dimension to the competition. Saying otherwise takes Ryder Cup, NCAA off the table as intriguing golf competitions, and that’s just silly. LIV has a compelling product. It’s been undermined at every step, keeping it from growing. From using 911 victims to stop the inaugural event (side note: FedEx does business in KSA, but didn’t see a picket line for the FedEx Cup’s first event this week) to lobbying Congress, the PGAT showed it’s true colors in snuffing out legitimate competition. Forcing the OWGR to disallow points to LIV players when it’s clearly the second best tour on the planet is the cherry on top. And the ratings debate never considers important factors, like LIV airing at off hours for international competition or beating our other sports broadcasts other than the PGAT. More people watch it than the DP World Tour. Ridiculous article and just a retread of the same ungrounded arguments as usual.

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      SouthPaw

      10 months ago

      100% agree with ‘AAB’ comment. This is a slanted column lacking objectivity. Has the drippings of a hit piece written perhaps by a LIV hater PGA fanboy than journalism… I guess if it’s an opinion piece then print a prevailing opinion peace for objectivity.

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      Andrew B

      10 months ago

      Your premise is off and demonstrates a lack of objectivity. LIV routinely plays better tracks (Valderrama, JCB, Sentosa, etc) than it’s PGAT counter tournament each week. It also has relatively better fields ever single time. The team element is a positive dimension to the competition. Saying otherwise takes Ryder Cup, NCAA off the table as intriguing golf competitions, and that’s just silly. LIV has a compelling product. It’s been undermined at every step, keeping it from growing. From using 911 victims to stop the inaugural event (side note: FedEx does business in KSA, but didn’t see a picket line for the FedEx Cup’s first event this week) to lobbying Congress, the PGAT showed it’s true colors in snuffing out legitimate competition. Forcing the OWGR to disallow points to LIV players when it’s clearly the second best tour on the planet is the cherry on top. And the ratings debate never considers important factors, like LIV airing at off hours for international competition or beating our other sports broadcasts other than the PGAT. More people watch it than the DP World Tour. Ridiculous article and just a retread of the same ungrounded arguments as usual.

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      Phillip

      10 months ago

      I watch and been to both LIV and PGA tournaments. LIVs shotgun start makes it easier to watch on a tv but harder to follow multiple groups. At the TCH Open I was able to follow McIlroy in the morning and then Scheffler in the afternoon , but at the LIV Dallas I alternated viewing greens and tee boxes that were close together.

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      OpMan

      10 months ago

      Every golf tournament has the same difficulty to follow players.
      You have your fave players, so you pick those groups and follow them one day – so you miss all the rest of the players. When you do that, you do get to see the whole golf course though, so you actually have to at least go 2, may be 3 days of any event to get the full gist of it.
      On any Sunday, do you follow the final group? Just because they are at the top of the leaderboard? If you do, you might miss a lot of it due to the crowd, or the course layout, because some courses zig zag back the other way and there is no way for you to cross over to follow them every hole.

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      Albatrossman

      10 months ago

      All good reasoning, however, why are you not making more space to discuss the fact that the PGA TOUR is WAY to US-centered???? This is, in my opinion, the most unjust (or pressing) issue regarding why the big tours are unable to engage spectators full attention. If the Ryder Cup is one of the biggest sports events (rivalling only one (Europe) and a third (US) of a continent ), why should individual pro golf tournaments not be able to engage more people as it does today??? If the PGA TOUR decided to do, at least, half of the tournaments outside the US and, finally, decide to make the PGA Championship a rotating international Major Championship, then I am sure that interest would peak around the world. Why is that debate not open publicly??? The Europeantour has moved in that direction, but does only have one Major to play with, and that Major is so special that it beats all the other 3 Majors together, however, the Masters need a special recognition as being the single tournament that engages the most people. In summary, the conditions have always existed in order to make GOLF a lot bigger, or one of the biggest spectator sports, but has until now continously been hampered by too many local interests and increasingly horrible management. I welcome comments and discussions in response to this post.

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      SouthPaw

      10 months ago

      Totally agree

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      TEC

      10 months ago

      The world gets Subway, McDonalds and iPhones, it doesn’t need the U.S. PGA tour too. Some American businesses choose to expand internationally and some don’t. It’s business, not a matter of justice.

      There’s plenty of international representation within the FedEx Cup top 50 right now too. Appears like the word is out on international opportunities on the PGA tour.

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      Kyle

      10 months ago

      There are, at most, 8 LIV players that matter. Dechambeau, Rahm, Hatton are missed. Koepka and Neimann in the next wave. Ancer, Smith, Lieshman are next. The rest would have washed out or are washed up. PGA tour should move on. No one attends LIV events. No one watches LIV on tv.

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      OpMan

      10 months ago

      MASSIVE turn out in Chicago today

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      CPAOwl

      10 months ago

      Where they there for the golf or concert?

      livSportswashing

      10 months ago

      Nobody I talk with wants liv players back on the tour, I don’t miss them. They chose the money and they can just move along and be happy with their millions from a corrupt regime. I have never watched liv and never will and nobody else is either as it looks like fox is happy with the live tv contract either. liv golfers, take your money and stay away.

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      mg

      10 months ago

      The pga has no Arnie, Jack, Lee, Ray, chi chi or Dan Jenkins writings to make the pga interesting. The pga personalities are stale and quite slow at their profession.

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      LIVHasNoIntegrity

      10 months ago

      LIV golf is nothing but exhibition golf, nobody on the bonesaw tour has any personality, that is why they took the money from a corrupt regime.

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      OpMan

      10 months ago

      Yeah that’s why Dechambeau manages to manage his team and manage his tremendous YouTube channel that garners MILLIONS of views week in week out that NONE of the PGA Tour players are even allowed to to so they have to go to other YT golfers’ channels like Grand Horvat, including Scheffler who is kind enough to do such videos

      What hole in the ground do you live? ROFL 🤣
      Go learn to break 90 this week mmmmmK? LMAO 🤣

      JP

      10 months ago

      Clearly in the minority here but that’s okay. Watching one shot every 5 minutes on boring CBS with crap announcers his horrible. At least LIV coverage, when you can find it, shows tons of shots.

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      ArchieBunker

      10 months ago

      There’s this thing called a DVR and a FF button that you can use to watch golf in the way that you want it. Also, a handy Mute button takes care of the annoying commentators. Works for me.

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      I miss, I miss, I make

      10 months ago

      I am not sure why I am even responding. LIV never was. If it wasn’t for Phil’s gambling debts it would have been zero. Watching golf can get boring at times and I guess some of the YouTube stuff has an appeal. So yea there is more golf on TV than I care to watch. Maybe that is true for many. But when I do watch it is the TOUR or LPGA. The Saudis do have sponsorship in other sports but LIV was the most blatant example of PIF trying to takeover and ruin an existing sports league. LIV can go stick it where the sun don’t shine.

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      OpMan

      10 months ago

      Just shut up and go enjoy your “sexy” WNBA that’s about your level of sports and international comprehension
      🤣

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      Andrew the Great!

      10 months ago

      WTH are you talking about? “I miss I miss I make” said NOTHING about ANY sport, let alone the WNBA, other than golf. Seems YOU’RE the one with an unhealthy fixation on women’s basketball. Maybe see a mental health specialist for your problem.

      LIVHasNoIntegrity

      10 months ago

      Always bitter there an no tournaments worth watching in Australia, go ahead, make your own league of liv money grubbers, maybe someone will watch it.

      KS

      10 months ago

      you’re a bitter moron

      Ron

      10 months ago

      I’m not convinced that your claim that golf fans want to see the best players together is as valid as you are trying to make it sound. I personally don’t know anyone in my golfing circle who has ever watched an LIV event. More importantly, I don’t know of anyone who doesn’t watch PGA events who says they’ll start watching again if Bryson and/or Brooks and/or Rahm return. Any ratings issues the PGA tour has will not be fixed by the return of any of the LIV members.

      As far as the harsh penalties for re-entry, they have to be harsh, or the PGA is just begging for it to happen again. I’ve said this before, re-entry should require a donation of 90% of what you took to leave, into a general fund to REALLY “grow the game” – e.g., make life a little easier for lower tier players, fund developmental programs, etc. Maybe it would deter potential sponsors from future attempts if it appears likely that their attempt will result in simply making a large contribution to the PGA coffers.

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      AgentUtah

      10 months ago

      Beautiful example of some kind of Los Angeles wing self righteous hypocrital logic… It started off bad but you saved it by making even less sense to close. 😂

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      Nomo Stew

      10 months ago

      This is so dumb. As scientists said from the start, new pathogens tend to evolve into less deadly forms, since there’s no survival value in dead hosts. And we got effective vaccines into large swaths of the population. So death rates for COVID came down, severity of illness came down. News fatigue played a very small role in normalizing it. Meanwhile, the Bonesaw tour ran out of deplorables willing to take their sports washing money, so it found its level as sheer entertainment–which is not all that high. It’s just not that much of a threat to the PGA. Frankly, I think if the PGA just let players have dual memberships and simply required a minimum level of play, as they do with other tours, the Bonesaw tour would fade into light relevance as a curiosity. It’s not like they will ever get WGR points, just as other playful exhibitions do not. Let them make their money and have their fun; real prestige will still come from winning real tourneys–which PIF can still sponsor.

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      Mark

      10 months ago

      LIV’s problem is their TV coverage is horrible. It color is off. You cannot read that leaders list that takes up an 1/8th of the screen . It’s a horrible TV viewing problem. I wanted to watch them but their TV problem makes it unwatchable.

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      Andrew the Great!

      10 months ago

      Yep. I was a captive audience a few months ago, and having never watched even one minute of LIV golf, I put it on. The visuals absolute stank on hot ice. Worst I’ve ever seen. So much screen space was consumed with awful, useless, meaningless graphics. I lasted about 10 minutes, tops, then put Bluey on. That was much more enjoyable. Haven’t watched another minute of LIV since.

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      Jim

      10 months ago

      Lmmfao. Swing and a miss you’re an idiot. LIV golf is so much more entertaining and competitive than the Scottie and Rory tour.

      ArchieBunker

      10 months ago

      LIV events look fun to attend, but there are probably more people there than watching on TV. The format is silly and horrible, with obnoxious hosts trying to turn boredom into excitement. For the most part, LIV is where talented golfers go to lose their desire and skills. If it weren’t for the Saudi money, LIV would be dead by now. I would bet that the indoor golf simulator league stands a better chance of surviving into the future.

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      Mark

      10 months ago

      I agree. Their TV recordings are horrible. The color isn’t right. You cannot read that leaders list that is constantly in the way. It jumps around. The announcers sound like they are a mile away. It’s unwatchable because of how it is recorded.

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      Jim

      10 months ago

      LIV golf is so much more entertaining and competitive than the Scottie and Rory tour. PGA IS A JOKE

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      Barrio6

      10 months ago

      Great article, I think Liv was hurt right out of the gate and is still struggling with no world golf ranking points which could have been prorated for three rounds is a factor, also no with major media coverage although they just did pickup FS1 this season, and with the rise of YouTube you can zip thru highlights of Liv, PGA, LPGA, Bryson trying to shoot 59, and my LA Dodgers :) in around an hour then off to my tee time.

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      Turtlehacker

      10 months ago

      Ask yourself what your soul is worth. Really think about it. Then google is Christianity accepted in Saudi Arabia. Would you seriously work for them in golf or anything else for that matter? Maybe the guys that went to LIV are not Christians. Do not know. But some day they will be judged for their actions as we all will. Hope to see you all some happy day!

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      OpMan

      10 months ago

      What if they’re Hindu?
      LMAO

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      Mark

      10 months ago

      They will not be judged at all concerning what golf league they played in. If you know Jesus Christ like I do, you would realize that had absolutely nothing to do with it. Get educated.

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      OpMan

      10 months ago

      Go on and read your Deuteronomy 13 and continue to destroy the planet of its unique, individual indigenous cultures and peoples
      LMAO
      Christianity is the biggest scam virus ever created by Middle Easterns in the history of mankind, if we let it proliferate it any more there will be nobody left on this planet
      And I am the biggest Earthling non-religious monkey you will ever meet, too!!!
      LMAO

      Cody

      10 months ago

      The CEO of LIV is a Mormon. I think it best we leave religion talk out of it…. It is unproductive.

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      justme

      10 months ago

      From Wikipedia:

      Accurate religious demographics are difficult to obtain in Saudi Arabia, but there were approximately 2.1 million Christians in Saudi Arabia in 2020.[1][2]

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      Jim

      10 months ago

      Lmfao. You’re an idiot. THE PGA DOES BUISNESS WITH SAUDI ARABIA. players left the PGA because the PGA officials were getting the money and not the players. The PGA is finished. Or the Scottie and Rory tour.

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      OpMan

      10 months ago

      Again, there may not be an “agreement” – but that’s all on the PGA Tour, as well as the OWGR, for being prejudiced sticklers from the old anachronistic world of the last century’s USA.
      They don’t want money? Well then!!! Again we go back to the point made by Phil about somehow the PGA Tour managed to dig into their coffers and raise more cash to create the “Elevated events,” to make sure there was competitiveness in just the sheer money numbers being thrown around the media, to make sure the PGA Tour felt secure that it wasn’t being ignored by the fans for having small budgets (haha) and the Tour did take some cash from the Saudis initially to help with that as most of the events increased their prize moneys too. So lets not forget that without LIV coming along the PGA Tour’s winners’ cheques would be about half what they are now, and that includes the majors –
      and the fact that OWGR is completely meaningless now, just being a flag waver, protector of the Tour and not the actual world of golf, tells you everything about who is in charge over there, who is being paid in the background to make such prejudiced decisions.
      It has got so ridiculous with moneys that the AMATEUR RULES have changed because golf has become such an expensive endeavour for parents that some Amateurs are allowed to make money for some their winnings!!!!! RIDICULOUS!!!!!! They are making it completely anti-competitive to make sure that the wealthy kids who have everything at the expensive schools and colleges country clubs are taken care of in the US to try to block poor kids from ever being able to climb the ladder.
      Everything falls on the PGA Tour and the OWGR cronies to GET OUT OF THE WAY, NOW, and actually let the money take over, the entire golf industry and Tour and Major awards and exemptions and qualifications to be re-written for this new world. Create 5 new majors on each of the continents, relegate the other majors to smaller “elevated events” types that get you into the bigger global majors, but balance out the entire golf world so that anybody playing anywhere in the world, whether it be in Europe, Japan or Latin America to all get the same points for qualification into the 5 Big Majors. And let PIF run them all hahahahahahah

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      Bag advice Man 2024

      10 months ago

      tl;dr

      Now go cry more

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      OpMan

      10 months ago

      Sounds like you’re doing the crying in your van down by the river!!!! You poor sod quit stealing cable 😂

      SouthPaw

      10 months ago

      OpMan is 100% spot on correct!

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      Robert G

      10 months ago

      Everyone is in the media as guessing about the increase in TV rating in 2025 for the PGA tour. Well look around other than the major’s onsite attendance at regular tour events is down dramatically. Because it’s too expensive to attend while TV for the most part is free.
      How many people out there can afford $1650 for a one-day ticket to the Ryder Cup? Damn few I would expect, so no doubt TV rating will be great.

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      Retired PGA Guy

      10 months ago

      Not sure where you came up with $1650 for a 1 day ticket. The following is from Ryder Cup’s website………………………..

      Daily Ryder Cup+ ticket pricing is listed below. Ryder Cup+ tickets include access to the grounds of Bethpage Black and to the Ryder Cup+ Inclusive Food and Non-Alcoholic Beverage Program for the specific day(s). Prices also include total fees and NY sales taxes per ticket.

      Tuesday, September 23, 2025: $255.27
      Practice Day

      Wednesday, September 24, 2025: $255.27
      Practice Day

      Thursday, September 25, 2025: $423.64
      Practice Day | Junior Ryder Cup Exhibition, Celebrity Matches & Opening Ceremony

      Friday, September 26, 2025: $749.51
      Match Day | Foursomes/Fourballs

      Saturday, September 27, 2025: $749.51
      Match Day | Foursomes/Fourballs

      Sunday, September 28, 2025: $749.51
      Match Day | Singles

      Still more than I would pay but not over 1600 dollars as you were saying.

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      Andrew the Great!

      10 months ago

      In 1999 my brother and I each paid around $650…for ALL SIX DAYS of the Ryder Cup at Brookline. I even framed my six tickets plus the program. Today’s pricing, given inflation since 1999, would be around $1300 or $1400 for all six days. Per person. Instead, the same six days’ tickets will be around $3200. PER PERSON.

      The PGA of America can GFT. I bleed red white & blue, but I’ll be rooting for Europe. (And don’t go all “that’s what the market will bear” BS. I know that. But the PGAoA isn’t a for-profit organization. Their pricing is BS.)

      OpMan

      10 months ago

      And it’s not just tickets –
      Hotels, food, transportation, concessions and gift items are all so much more. Look at the prices of hats and shirts!!!
      And lets not forget – the TARIFFS are being set. Prices will increase even more, people will stay in their homes even more.

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      Andy

      10 months ago

      Well said.

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      dr. bloor

      10 months ago

      Saudis must be wondering how the hell they got suckered into throwing so much money at helping Greg Norman settle a grudge.

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      Josh

      10 months ago

      Hey now, be reasonable.

      Some of that money went to paying off Lefty’s significant gambling debts ;)

      Reply

      OpMan

      10 months ago

      Huh? No they aren’t wondering about anything at all. They have money coming out of their ears.
      Golf isn’t the only thing in which PIF is involved. They had just sponsored the Gold Cup in the North American soccer as well as the FIFA Club World Cup. PIF is so involved that Saudi Arabia were the “invited” team that played in the Gold Cup which is supposed to be for CONCACAF teams, but they always invite an external team.
      PIF is also involved in Women’s golf, and they also sponsor Athletics and many others.
      To them, it’s just money for investment

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      livSportswashing

      10 months ago

      To the Saudis the money isn’t investment, it is sports washing trying fix their unfixable image and horrible human rights record.

      Jay

      10 months ago

      Yes the Saudi’s attempt to whitewash their history or cutting bodies apart is with money. Ask trump

      Jason S

      10 months ago

      Well, LIV did one thing that I thank them for. Helped push out Jay Monahan. He needed to go, like 10 years ago. Better late than never I guess.

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      Road Dawg

      10 months ago

      That we can all agree on!

      Reply

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