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LIV Players Are Becoming Increasingly Irrelevant In Majors

For much of the week, it felt like there was a mistake in the Masters app and on the broadcast.

The first page of the leaderboard. The second page of the leaderboard. Sometimes even the third page of the leaderboard.

And not a LIV player to be found.

If not for a final-round 66 from Tyrrell Hatton that surged him into a tie for third, it would have been something of a catastrophic week for LIV—none of the league’s other players finished in the top 30 of the 91-man field.

So maybe LIV playing a glorified pitch-and-putt in South Africa and then taking three weeks off wasn’t the best form of preparation for competing on a course that demands precision.

In the past, LIV has played a more American schedule closer to the Masters and other majors. It’s fair to wonder whether the 2026 schedule did LIV players a disservice.

Even with perfect preparation, it’s abundantly obvious LIV’s best guys have lost a step in the majors.

Is it about motivation? Sharpness? Something else?

DeChambeau, Rahm were total no-shows

The LIV Masters disaster starts with Bryson DeChambeau.

A popular pick to win this week based on his back-to-back LIV victories, Bryson’s week was marked by terrible wedge play and getting stuck in more bunkers than Saddam. He triple bogeyed No. 11 in his opening round and then did the same at No. 18 in the second round to miss the cut by two strokes.

I guess his own personal 3D-printed 5-iron couldn’t save him.

While it’s fair that LIV has generally been a positive for DeChambeau—he won the 2024 U.S. Open and has really been the lone consistent LIV standout in the top events—it’s clear he hasn’t solved the Augusta National problem.

Whether it’s his longer-length wedges, the difficulty of playing off so many uneven lies or something else entirely, DeChambeau’s approach play has been bad at the Masters—even during his better results at ANGC.

But far more disappointing among LIV’s top two stars? Jon Rahm.

The expectation for Rahm is to be a top five player in the world. Data Golf has had him at No. 2 for a long time now. His performances on LIV are solid, although it’s ridiculous he has only won three times against the plumbers and firemen in those limited fields.

Regardless, it’s time to officially sound the alarm for Rahm in majors.

He opened the Masters with a 6-over 78 and was completely out of the tournament by the time he reached the second nine on Thursday. It’s nice that he battled to make the cut, but that’s not much of a win for a player who has the capacity to be No. 1 in the world.

The last time Rahm legitimately contended for a major was the 2023 Masters. That was three years ago.

Since signing on with LIV, there is something missing for him mentally. He has lost an edge.

He still has the physical tools and is in the prime of his career, but that’s even more reason to be sad watching Rahm toil on LIV and then no-show at majors while players who are supposed to be his same class—Scottie Scheffler, Rory McIlroy and others—make Rahm more and more irrelevant with each passing major.

And then there is the rest of the crew on cruise control

Remember the name Cameron Smith?

He should be in the prime of his career, but he has opted not to realize that potential. He accomplished a lot, including winning the 2022 Open Championship, and now he is cashing big checks and chilling.

Hey, you can’t be critical of someone who decides that their priority in life is family, friends and not stressing about golf. That is his right. Good for him. Maybe we would do the same if given the chance.

But it’s also the right of golf fans to be grossly disappointed that we don’t get to watch him truly compete in majors. It’s the right of the fan to be bummed that a very talented player with a nasty short game doesn’t care about honing his craft.

Smith has missed his last six major cuts. This week was a 74-77 showing to miss the cut by three strokes.

Dustin Johnson? Oh, he checked out ages ago.

Sergio Garcia? He’s smashing his driver over a cooler.

The LIV cast has consistently disappointed in majors. There are a handful of guys who we have completely forgot about since they left the PGA Tour.

After initial major success, LIV stars have deteriorated

Brooks Koepka won the 2023 PGA Championship and Bryson won the 2024 U.S. Open.

Those are the only LIV players to win a major since the league formed. And Koepka isn’t even on LIV anymore.

The one LIV player who has had consistent success in majors is Bryson. Rahm has enjoyed a few top-10 finishes but hasn’t been anywhere close to contention late in a major the last three seasons.

What’s the reason?

Maybe it’s not playing enough good golf courses against good competition. Maybe it’s how uneven the schedule is—including how much international play is involved—so it’s tough for players to get into a groove heading majors.

Whatever the reason, there are a lot of LIV players becoming afterthoughts in majors.

Let me know what you think in the comment section.

Top Photo Caption: Jon Rahm reacts after finishing his second round of the Masters. (GETTY IMAGES/Maddie Meyer)

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Sean Fairholm

Sean Fairholm

Sean Fairholm

Sean is a longtime golf journalist and underachieving 10 handicap who enjoys the game in all forms. If he didn't have an official career writing about golf, Sean would spend most of his free time writing about it anyway. When he isn't playing golf, you can find Sean watching his beloved Florida Panthers hockey team, traveling to a national park or listening to music on his record player. He lives in Nashville with his wife, Anja, and dog, Hogan.

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      Store of Value

      2 months ago

      All the plumbers I know can’t golf worth shit. The firemen though… they also can’t golf worth shit.

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      Thomas A

      2 months ago

      The firemen I know work 2 days on, 4 days off schedules. They are single-digits.

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      Mike

      2 months ago

      I’ve always viewed LIV events, the few I’ve watched, as “Minor League”. The thump, thump, thump of the background music, the easy setups on nondescript courses and the shorts…all together it’s like watching beer league golfers flailing away at the local muni on a Saturday afternoon. Those who chose to go to LIV and cash in, fine – they got their money and probably don’t care very much about their “legacy”. They made their bed and are probably happy with their decision. Koepka and Reed obviously weren’t which is why they’re back with the PGA.

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      Billy Barroo

      2 months ago

      Totally agree. Anybody defending LIV has most likely not competed or don’t understand how intense the competition is to win a major. Even the slightest loss of edge can be exposed in a major tournament and especially at Augusta. In amateur terms, it’s like you only drink beer, crank tunes and take 5 footers all year and then find yourself at your club championship or city tournament and you struggle. The guys that play competitive rounds throughout the year where they hole out everything and methodically practice will have a huge edge even if they hit it shorter and don’t have all the A list gear. The difference of competing weekly on the PGA tour on courses that are far tougher against much deeper fields with real trophies on the line is a huge gap. LIV just doesn’t offer the same atmosphere and I’m 99% certain they are all realizing it. Bryson winning 2 LIV events is completely irrelevant, it seriously means nothing. All that said, Tyrell Hatton has shown that he is an incredible competitor with skills that are at the top order. I’d love to see him come back to the PGA tour. He’s crazy but in a great way that would be good for the game. I’d be my life that he’s looking at Brooks Koepka and wishing that were him right now.

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      Adam

      2 months ago

      Love this comment. An exhibition (let’s be brutally honest, that’s what LIV events are) can’t possibly prepare somebody for the pressure of a major.

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      D Hos

      2 months ago

      Comparing elite, world-class professional golfers to local amateurs “drinking beer and taking 5-footers” is completely absurd. These guys aren’t weekend hackers. The argument that the PGA Tour’s “real trophies” and “deeper fields” are the only way to stay sharp is entirely dismantled by recent history. DeChambeau literally won the 2024 U.S. Open, one of the toughest tests in golf while playing that exact LIV schedule. You can dismiss his two LIV wins as “meaning nothing” all you want, but you can’t dismiss a U.S. Open trophy.

      Saying you’d “bet your life” Hatton is looking at Brooks Koepka wishing he were him is pretty funny considering Hatton just finished T3 at Augusta, proving his game is as sharp as ever without needing to grind at Riviera or Sawgrass beforehand. Writing off an entire roster of prime-aged major champions because of the tour they play on ignores reality and rests on a ridiculous, gatekeeping analogy.

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      Billy Barroo

      2 months ago

      I’m fully aware that Bryson won 2 U.S. Opens and agree he’s one of the best players in the world. My point is that having him, Hatton and 3-5 other high level players isn’t the same and they are facing consequences for it. As good as Bryson is, he’s not getting tested week in and week out both by the lack of a great field and by the lack of great courses. Look at what he’s done at Augusta recently, he struggles in the tense situations where touch is the premium. If Bryson had Scotty or Rory’s ability with their irons he’s win the grand slam. The U.S. Open perfectly suits his game. It’s long, the rough is so penal that only the strongest players can move the ball in it. Very curious to see how he plays Shinnecock this year with it being such a wild course. The only reason Bryson even made the cut at the Open in Ireland last year is because the wind totally died and made the course absolutely benign. The first day when the wind was howling (which it typically always does) exposed every flaw in his game. But, all that said his length and power still is able to neutralize many courses.

      I didn’t compare LIV to beer drinking amateurs. Go back and read my comment. The PGA to LIV was equated to me (or other amateur golfers) playing local/club tournaments vs. playing weekend golf with music blaring and gimmes. LIV is simply second rate in every way. Like so many others have stated, they’re pumping tunes, wearing shorts, playing vastly inferior courses. I think the shotgun start is the most underated aspect. Not having to walk down the final holes of a tournament protecting a lead is maybe the toughest thing to do as a professional golfer. The shotgun start mostly dismisses that complexity. For the fans, it’s pretty lame to be honest.

      D Hos

      2 months ago

      First, the “weekend amateur” comparison is still a terrible analogy. Playing for multi-million dollar purses against prime-aged major champions is not the local club flight, tunes or no tunes. Furthermore, their critique of the shotgun start shows a fundamental misunderstanding of how LIV actually operates. In the final round, the leaders are explicitly grouped together and tee off on Hole 1—meaning they walk down the stretch and finish on 18 together, facing the exact same pressure of protecting a lead as they would in any traditional tournament. The complexity and drama of the finishing holes are entirely preserved for the guys actually contending for the trophy.

      Second, the claim that Bryson lacks touch and only wins U.S. Opens because of “penal rough” is objectively hilarious. He won the 2024 U.S. Open at Pinehurst No. 2—a course famously featuring no rough, but rather native wiregrass areas and diabolical, turtle-backed greens that demand the best iron play and short-game touch on the planet. His 55-yard bunker shot on the 18th hole to save par and secure that trophy is already widely considered one of the greatest displays of touch under pressure in major championship history.

      Finally, trying to write off Bryson’s performance at the 2025 Open Championship at Royal Portrush is a massive cope. Yes, he shot a 73 on Thursday in the wind. He then immediately adjusted and fired a 69, 67, and 69 over the next three days to finish comfortably in the top 25 at 6-under par. You don’t accidentally shoot three consecutive rounds in the 60s at an Open Championship venue just because “the wind died.” You do it by being an elite, world-class golfer—which completely invalidates the idea that his tour schedule has ruined his game.

      Rich Douglas

      2 months ago

      I felt then–and I still do–that going to LIV was the same as retiring from competitive golf. I don’t begrudge anyone for striving for earnings, and each player must do for himself what is best. So, my assessment is without judgment. LIV is exhibition golf.

      That doesn’t mean someone can’t come out of semi-retirement and be competitive for a week in a major. But it’s really an uphill grind since they’re up against guys competing at the top level of golf each week. In any sport, retiring early and then mounting a comeback is hard enough, but these guys aren’t even doing that. They’re emerging from their soft-shell league once in a while, then going right back when the week is up.

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      Sean

      2 months ago

      De Chambeau is a very one dimensional golfer, no finesse and no touch. Suits a dull PGA set up, but any course that is a little quirky or difficult and he’s in trouble.

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      Billy Barroo

      2 months ago

      Couple that with what he said about Augusta in the past and he looks like a buffoon. Don’t get me wrong, he’s got 2 US Open’s and that’s some serious heat but agreed that he simply lacks the finesse to charm Augusta. That course will never be overpowered and that’s why we love it so much. People thought Tiger won early on by overpowering it but when you look back, he made so many incredible wedge shots, chips and putts. He had the power, but he knew how to caress as well. That’s exactly why Rory has been able to change the narrative. He used to try to slam everything down Augusta’s throat like a Goose getting fed fois gras but now he’s completely transformed his game to take what the course will give him with the wedge and putter. Scotty, perfect example of what it takes at Augusta. Green jackets aren’t for YouTube stars and people that bow down to some cheating old codger that drives carts on greens.

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      Gabriel

      2 months ago

      Double standard for sure, been like that since day 1 when LIV was created. Every time they struggle in a major, one article like this one comes out to please good old hardcore PGA tour fan from whatever website, tv shows, journal, magazine out there. In the end it’s golf and simple math. PGA tour have more players on the tournement so they are going for sure place more players in the top 20 than LIV. Golfer can have a bad weekend, when LIV players have one, they dont have another 40 players in the field to make you forget that they missed the cut. A lot of good players missed the cut this year at the masters including Spaun, Macintyre and Deschambeau. Do I like LIV golf? YES but I also like LPGA, college golf, PGA tour, tournement of champions… for me it’s just golf. I will always respect players who went to LIV golf because they knew they would get destroyed in the media for taking “easy” money. Some of them wanted a new start, change from the PGA tour. The league was a good idea but golf is the most conservative sport out there so maybe in 10-20 years it might take off but not until good old PGA tour fans are the main audience of golf. We see it at every golf course these day, new ideas are automatically bad, new golf club or good ball doesnt make you a better golfer, there is only way to swing, to hold a golf club. All new putting technique are bad, only blade putters are good. All that kind of shitty nonsence coming from golfer of a certain age and over.

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      D Hos

      2 months ago

      The double standard here is glaring. When PGA Tour loyalists who historically struggle in majors hit a slump, Fairholm offers endless grace and excuses; but when LIV players have one bad week at Augusta, they are permanently “irrelevant.” Just look at his own recent articles. In What Happened To Max Homa?, he blames Homa’s missed cuts at the U.S. Open and Open Championship on new clubs and a new baby, sympathetically writing that “sometimes maintaining a certain level of golf is hard.” Similarly, in Where Did All The Young Tour Stars Go?, he gives Justin Thomas a total pass for his brutal major slump, brushing it off as players being injured or “just plain struggling.”

      Yet, that grace completely vanishes for anyone on LIV. Meanwhile, Fairholm will praise Sam Burns as an “elite putter” and leaderboard constant (The 10 Best Golfers Under The Age Of 30) despite a three-year winless drought and notorious major struggles. He’ll even call Patrick Cantlay an “absolute lock” (Who Will Make The American Ryder Cup Team?) while ignoring his sheer inability to contend on major Sundays. PGA Tour players get the benefit of the doubt for “life changes” and “struggling,” but prime-aged LIV champions are written off the second they miss a cut.

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      Aaronious B.

      2 months ago

      So what are the sympathetic excuses for the top LIV guys no-showing at yet another major? Fairholm actually provided one for you — they aren’t playing a schedule that prepares them for the challenge of a major. The PGAT guys get to play Riviera, Sawgrass, etc. in the weeks leading up to the Masters. Those events force golfers to hit uncomfortable shots in the heat of competition. And they do it against almost all of the top golfers in the world. I think it is reasonable to conclude that playing tough courses against top competition is a better preparation for the Masters than competing against Scott Vincent and Dick Bland at Steyn City or playing YouTube hit-and-giggles. (The “plumbers and firemen” line was harsh, but it illustrates the point.)

      We only get to watch these guys play high-level golf four times a year. If they want to be considered on par with the PGAT, then they have to produce results. That isn’t spin, just facts. And this wasn’t just one event or one cold spell. This has been going on for years.

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      D Hos

      2 months ago

      “Going on for years”? LIV has barely existed for a few years, and in that exact timeframe, their players have literally won majors—Brooks Koepka at the ’23 PGA and Bryson DeChambeau at the ’24 U.S. Open. Let’s also not conveniently forget the 2023 Masters, where LIV players occupied three of the top four spots on the leaderboard (Koepka, Mickelson, Reed). Claiming they don’t produce results or that they consistently “no-show” ignores actual, recent golf history. They literally just put Hatton in the top 3 at this exact tournament.

      As for the “superior preparation” argument: if grinding at Riviera and Sawgrass is the foolproof formula for major success, why do so many elite PGA Tour guys routinely miss the cut or disappear on the weekend at Augusta? Golf is highly volatile. Furthermore, agreeing with the “plumbers and firemen” line is a joke when they are teeing it up against Bryson, Brooks, Rahm, DJ, and Cam Smith every week. Elite players have bad weeks regardless of what tour they play on. You can’t just erase the major trophies LIV players have lifted over the last two years just to fit a neat narrative about their schedule.

      Aaronious B.

      2 months ago

      D Hos, you’re falling into a familiar trap, arguing against straw men. Bryson has mostly been very good at majors since moving to LIV. Mickelson and Reed have mostly shown up at the Masters, but haven’t contended. Rahm did back-door his way to a couple of respectable results. But compared to expectations based on pre-LIV results, essentially every LIV golfer other than Brsyon have underperformed since the move. That is fact. And now Bryson has a troubling result on his resume, despite having won twice on LIV coming in. You brought up Cam Smith as evidence of the great fields that LIV guys are playing against. Cam has now missed six majors cuts in a row. He isn’t a top golfer any longer. DJ is also no longer a top golfer, though he had a respectable showing last week for the first time in years. Maybe he is turning a corner! That would be newsworthy if so, and if that happens and Sean doesn’t write about it, feel free to bring it up. LIV guys aren’t playing “every week” — not even close. And they aren’t playing against Brooks any more. He left! I think it is completely fair to be critical of LIV as a golf tour and as a poor preparation for the majors, because of the courses, format and incredibly shallow fields. The results back that up. LIV took roughly 20-30 percent of the top golfers in those first couple of years. And if you look at the majors for those first couple of years, they got about 20% of the leaderboards. But that is changing the furtherbwe go. LIV golfers have won only 1 of the past 9 majors, and only got 1 guy into the top 30 at the most recent one. (Hatton was awesome on the two scoring days, but struggled on the non-scoring days.) Given the discourse that came from LIV from the start, those are poor results, and trending toward disastrous. That could flip quickly! Perhaps Bryson/Jon nab a couple of the majors this year or LIV completely stuff the Open leaderboard. It could happen, and that would certainly change the narrative! But facts are facts even if you don’t like them. LIV golfers are underperforming at majors, and Bryson has papered over that to some extent, but his blow-up this put the deficiency in stark focus.

      D Hos

      2 months ago

      Straw men? Let’s talk actual facts, because your memory of recent majors seems highly selective.

      First, claiming Mickelson and Reed “haven’t contended” at the Masters since moving to LIV is completely false. Did you magically forget 2023? Phil shot a Sunday 65 to finish T2, and Reed finished T4. That is the literal definition of contending. Dismissing Rahm’s solid finishes as “back-dooring” is just moving the goalposts to fit your narrative that LIV guys can’t compete.

      You also completely gloss over Bryson. Yes, he had a bad week at Augusta, but he won the 2024 U.S. Open and finished T2 at the 2025 PGA Championship at Quail Hollow. If a guy is consistently battling for the toughest trophies in golf, the 54-hole schedule clearly hasn’t ruined his competitive edge. And yes, Brooks leaving to return to the PGA Tour is a blow to the roster—I won’t deny that. But acting like LIV fields are suddenly mini-tours is ridiculous when you still have Bryson, Rahm, Hatton, Niemann, and others teeing it up against each other.

      As for your “1 of the past 9 majors” stat—sure, the math checks out (Bryson’s U.S. Open). But you’re ignoring the basic math of the fields. LIV only has 54 players, while the PGA and DP World Tours have hundreds of eligible guys padding out these major leaderboards. Statistically, taking 1 of the last 9 majors, grabbing a T2 at the PGA, and putting guys on the first page of the leaderboard on Sunday (like Hatton this week) proves they are still elite. The schedule isn’t ruining them; golf is just an incredibly hard, volatile sport, and even the best players on earth have off weeks.

      Adam

      2 months ago

      Are you seriously comparing the expectations of winning for guys like Rahm and DeChambeau to Max Homa? LOL What major was he expected to win?

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      Billy Barroo

      2 months ago

      For me, the question is simply this, if you were a younger player who’s dreaming of winning majors and being a champion by every measure where would you go? I seriously doubt anybody could make an argument that you’d be better off playing at LIV with 54 players, no cut, bass thumping, inferior courses, etc. etc. If you remove the pay day, there’s really no way to even start a defense of why you’d join this tour. This tour is larger a collection with aging pros (and admittedly some great champions) who don’t have their foot on the gas and few guys who are in their prime and handful of younger players that we really have no idea where they stand due to them playing this tour. Max Homa is not expected to win a major but he’s a really talented player who’s wandered the wildnerness that past couple of seasons but I’m 99% sure he’s way more likely to win a major by playing on the PGA Tour. His career would be in a much worse place by going to LIV.

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