THE ONE WORD SURVEY RESULTS
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THE ONE WORD SURVEY RESULTS

THE ONE WORD SURVEY RESULTS

A few weeks back, we posted what we called the One Word Survey. A word association game of sorts, the idea was to get you to choose the golf equipment brand you most associate with each of the words we presented. Figuring some of you might have other brands in mind, we also gave you a none of the above option.

The one word, one choice approach doesn’t leave much room for nuance, and that’s what, for me anyway, makes this exercise so interesting. Of course, that same approach means we don’t have any idea what your second choice might have been, so we can only look at the frequency at which each brand was chosen.

Frankly, I’m not sure what the results suggest about the equipment we buy. The idea was to get a sense of how you perceive the brands we cover day in and day out. Whether or not perception aligns with reality is often, for better or worse, inconsequential. To cycle back to that quote from Ari Jacoby, “Brands are not just what they say they are. Brands are what consumers say they are.”

As I typically do, I’ve included my general observations along with some of my interpretations. I would encourage you to do the same and to share your thoughts in the comment section.

Finally, before we get to the charts, I’d be remiss not to mention that the data shown in graphs comes from a bit more than 5300 completed surveys.

The Good

The first 9 words in our survey results have positive connotations. You would expect that larger brands would receive a greater percentage of the total responses, so if you’re so inclined, it may be helpful to split brands into groups and compare large to large and small to small.

Performance

PERFORMANCE

It’s not particularly surprising that nearly 20% of you associated Titleist with Performance. Afterall, Titleist is Performance is one of the company taglines. Current market leader, Callaway, was selected just over 17% of the time. Relative to its market share, Mizuno (17.43%) always overperforms in our surveys, which speaks to the brand’s popularity among our readership. PXG at 3.78% is also noteworthy. In this case, 3.78% is not substantial, but as you read through these results, it’s worth keeping an eye on how the 3-year-old PXG compares to its more established competitors.

Of the other smaller brands, Srixon/Cleveland faired slightly better than Cobra.

Innovation

INNOVATION

It’s not exactly news that every company wants to be seen as innovative, and it shouldn’t be surprising that you selected the current market leader (Callaway) as the most innovative in the game today. TaylorMade, PING, and PXG  also received a significant percentage of your clicks. Cobra at just under 10% is worth calling-out as well as it leads the smaller brands by plenty. It’s also noteworthy that despite being strongly associated with other positive words in the survey, comparatively few of you most associate Mizuno and Titleist with Innovation. I suspect that if we had included Classic or Timeless in the survey, both brands would be near the top.

Engineering

ENGIINEERING

PING has firmly established itself as an engineering company, so it was entirely predictable – I’d call it a gimme – that nearly30% of you selected PING. Callaway was selected nearly 16% of the time, suggesting that many of you believe there’s real R&D backing the marketing efforts. The real surprise is PXG with more than 13% of your responses. That’s more than both TaylorMade and Mizuno, and nearly 2X the number of you who selected Titleist.

Among the smaller brands, Cobra (admittedly more of a mid-sized brand in the marketplace) faired the best, followed by Bridgestone and then Srixon.

Leader

LEADER

Not surprising given its market position, nearly 30% of you associated Callaway with Leader. Titleist wasn’t far behind, which is likely attributable to its leadership position in the ball market. In general, your responses don’t deviate significantly from the realities of the market.

Among the small and mid-sized brands, Mizuno was selected most often.

Integrity

INTEGRITY

Integrity can be thought of as honesty coupled with a strong moral compass. In that context, we’d expect to see PING factor heavily in your responses. Once again we see Titleist near the top, while Mizuno is also held in high regard by our readers. By contrast, market leaders Callaway and TaylorMade didn’t factor as heavily in your responses as they did for other positives.

It’s perhaps noteworthy that smaller brands Bridgestone, Wilson, and Srixon/Cleveland were selected more often than TaylorMade.

Quality

QUALITY

As with many of our chosen words, responses are likely dependent on interpretation, and existing perceptions. Mizuno is known for quality forgings. Titleist is positioned as a leader in golf ball quality control (and a tour leader in irons and hybrids), while many golfers associate PING with quality products. While it was dwarfed by the brands I just mentioned, Callaway again grabbed a greater percentage than its primary competitor, while PXG was selected more often than many of the industry mainstays.

Srixon/Cleveland faired the best among the smaller brands.

Trustworthy

TRUSTYWORTHY

Given the inherent overlap with Integrity, we’d expect to see the same companies factor heavily in your responses. PING and Titleist were again the most popular choices. Mizuno remained popular while Callaway finished ahead of the remaining brands. PXG was selected least, which apart from conveying the message that it isn’t the first brand that pops into your head when you hear Trustworthy, also illustrates the polarizing nature of the company, even within the confines of our positive words.

Smaller brands were nearly flat across the board, with Srixon/Cleveland again being selected with greater frequency.

Modern

MODERN

Another of our words with a heavily interpretive component, Modern proved to be an outlier among our positive words. PXG was selected most often, which may be attributable to the company’s signature look. Callaway was 2nd, perhaps a result of its unique approach (and its desire to establish itself as the first modern golf company). Cobra, despite toning things down a bit in recent years, accounted for more than 17% of your responses; its highest total in the survey. Srixon/Cleveland led the remaining smaller brands.

Humble

HUMBLE

When TaylorMade was on top of the industry, it constantly spoke of the need to stay humble. It’s a sentiment often echoed by Callaway employees as well. If the responses to this survey mean anything, neither company has been particularly effective at conveying any sense of humility. Of course, it’s also possible that some of you viewed humble as a synonym for quiet given that the loudest marketers in the industry (Callaway, TaylorMade, and PXG) finished at or near the bottom.

The greatest percentage of you associated humble with Mizuno, while PING was also selected with a great deal of frequency. Also of note were stronger showings for both Wilson and Srixon and Bridgestone, which all received their highest percentage of selections among our positive words.

The Bad

The following 9 charts feature words with generally negative connotations. While you would expect large brands would also receive the lion’s share of the responses, as you’ll see, when it comes to our undesirable words, that’s not always the case.

Hype

HYPE

Often regarded within the golf equipment industry as the opposite of Performance, you created three distinct spikes with your reactions to hype. Nearly 35% of you most associate the word with TaylorMade, while PXG isn’t far behind at just over 30%. Toss in Callaway, and we’re over 85%. This isn’t surprising given many of the comments left on stories about those particular brands.

PING and to a lesser extent Titleist, received a comparatively small percentage of the vote.

Gimmick

GIMMICK

The good news for the industry is that more than 20% of you don’t associate Gimmick with any of the brands included in our survey. That could suggest a belief that products and features more or less do what the manufacturers say they do. Once again PXG accounted for the highest percentage of responses, while TaylorMade was selected nearly 20% of the time. Callaway faired better, while both Titleist, PING, and Mizuno barely registered. The higher percentage of responses for Tour Edge, Wilson, and Cobra is notably atypical for the survey.

Marketing

MARKETING

There’s nothing inherently negative about Marketing, however, in the golf equipment world, it’s sometimes viewed as the opposite of R&D. Budgets being what they are, it should go without saying that the biggest companies often have the largest marketing presences, so we’d expect to see Callaway and TaylorMade account for a most significant percentage of your responses. Perhaps surprisingly Titleist was selected less than 10% of the time despite its significant ball marketing efforts.

Small brands were split and relatively low across the board. This isn’t any sort of surprise as most small brands are, to a degree, known for their lack of marketing.

Follower

FOLLOWER

Nobody wants to be seen as a follower. It suggests a lack of innovation and a lack of original thinking. Within that context, this is the question for which I find your answers most puzzling. While the graphs are flatter than most, among those of you who didn’t select None of the Above, surprisingly (to me anyway), Cobra received the highest percentage of responses. TaylorMade and Wilson also accounted for greater than 10% of your selections.

What’s interesting is that, in this chart, we don’t really see the same distinction between big brands and small brands that we find in many of our charts.

Deceptive

DECEPTIVE

The good news is that the greatest percentage of responses for this strongly negative adjective fell to none of the above. The bad news, if you’re TaylorMade, is that in accounting for nearly 30% of the selections, you weren’t far behind. This is likely attributable to that fact that, once upon a time, TaylorMade led the league in unfulfilled yardage promises. PXG and Callaway also received an appreciable percentage of your responses.

PING and Titleist were selected at a rate lower than their market positions suggest they should.

Inferior

INFERIOR

While most equipment on the market today is of similar quality, as we’ve said, perception often matters more than reality. Tour Edge and Wilson received, by far, their greatest percentage of responses for what is inarguably an adjective no brand wants to be associated with. None of the Above was selected more than 25% of the time, which helped to keep every other brand below the 5% threshold.

Dishonest

DISHONEST

A step worse than deceptive, dishonest is on the wrong side of the of the line between misleading and lying. Once again, the strong selection of None of the Above suggests that most of you believe the industry does a good job of staying on the right side of that line or at least walking it.

Those of you who selected specific brands once again selected TaylorMade by a significant margin. PXG was selected nearly 12% of the time, while Callaway was the only other company to be selected more than 5% of the time. As you’d expect given their respective ratings for integrity and honesty, PING and Mizuno barely register.

Uninspired

UNINSPIRED

Like follower, uninspired suggests a lack of originality, or for that matter, a lack of anything appealing. What’s noteworthy is that with the exception of Titleist, the industry’s biggest names – and I suppose we have to include PXG in this case – are relatively flat, while smaller brands spike significantly.

I’m inclined to fault Titleist’s steady approach to everything for its comparatively high tally. The numbers for Wilson, Tour Edge, Srixon/Cleveland and Bridgestone are the highest or among the highest for each brand, which could suggest their products don’t generate the same degree of excitement as their larger competitors’.

Arrogant

ARROGANT

Given its pricing structure, bold statements (“Nobody makes clubs the way we do, period”), and how many perceive company Owner and Founder, Bob Parsons, this isn’t exactly an eye-opener. It’s probably also not much of a surprise that 3 companies accounted for nearly 82% of the responses. Add Callaway to the mix, and we’re over 90%. Nobody else registers to any significant degree.

Postive vs. Negative

The chart below compares the percentage of the total positive responses (gold) to the percentage of negative responses (black) for each brand. Feel free to interpret the results in any manner you see fit, but there are a handful of things that are worth mentioning specifically.

POSITIVEvNEGATIVE

PING and Mizuno have the most favorable ratios of positive to negative responses, while the general view of Titleist can also be regarded as strongly positive. To me, the obvious takeaway is that all three are held in high regard by our readers.

Of the remaining large brands in the survey, TaylorMade and PXG (The overall percentage of responses necessitates that we throw PXG in with the big boys) show the strongest negative to positive ratios, with both brands being chosen more than twice as often for our negative words. While the easy answer is that you view both of these brands negatively, given that both brands were associated with a healthy percentage of the positive words, it may also suggest there is a polarizing (love ’em or hate ’em) nature to both brands, which isn’t always a bad thing.

While the overall percentage of responses wasn’t as high, results for both Wilson and Tour Edge suggest a negative overall view. That’s not great news for either, but given the relatively low percentage of the total vote, I’d be remiss not to point out that a good bit of the difference can be attributed to just a couple of the words in this survey that triggered a disproportional percentage of negative responses.

Of the balanced brands, Callaway received the highest percentage of total selections. While we might expect a more favorable overall view of the industry leader, there’s always some animosity towards those on top (ask me how I feel about the grossly overrated New England Patriots and their propensity for leading the league in cheating every season), so I don’t think this is a huge surprise. That it’s viewed in a significantly more favorable and a significantly less negative light that its closest competitor is a positive for sure.

I’d be interested to hear your takeaway, but my thinking is that a comparatively small, slightly favorable, but mostly balanced percentages for Cobra, Bridgestone, and Srixon/Cleveland suggest a degree of indifference. They’re not on the bottom of your list, but they’re not exactly at the top either. What that means for the longterm, I don’t know, but with a largely stagnant market coupled with more aggressive competitors, it’s certainly not a good thing. Indifference seldom is.

Finally, in what I regard as a general positive for the equipment industry, you chose the None of the Above option at a significantly higher rate for the negative words than you did for the positive. For most of you, there was almost always a brand you associated with good things, but not always a brand you associated with the bad. Ever the optimist (that’s a lie), I take that to mean you have a generally favorable view of the brands that make the equipment you use to play this wonderfully frustrating game.

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      stephenf

      6 years ago

      Just a damn shame that Wilson gets the negatives here on “uninspired” and “inferior.” The truth is that their irons — particularly sets like the FG-62 and FG Tours (original, V2, V4, V6) — are consistently rated among the best by people who’ve actually hit them. Must be frustrating for a company to put out an excellent product and have the perception be this inexplicably bad.

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      Thomas Murphy

      7 years ago

      Wilson is the one that can’t get out of its own way. The reality is gear is more alike than different (in broad strokes) and as you have noted in your own play Wilson makes some pretty awesome irons. Their wonderous “reality tv” experiment, and long down period shows how hard it is. Too many brands, too few dollars to go around and outside of “brand” it is hard to really build distinction.

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      Steve

      7 years ago

      Having been a long time MyGolfSpy reader, the results seem to reflect at least indirectly the over all view of the MyGolfSpy team (our educators). Not really surprising and certainly useful for the individual companies as they try to engage with at least one segment of their customers. The more interesting question would be how do the MyGolfSpy readers compare to other customer segments of the companies, and what percent of the target customers do MyGolfSpy readers represent?

      As always, I found it very interesting. Love MyGolfSpy education!

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      JOND

      7 years ago

      Before the survey I had a vague dislike for PXG but had not really thought about it. Elitist maybe. After what has been going on with Taylormade and the results of this survey, arrogance really describes it.

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      Alf

      7 years ago

      I did the survey and find the results really interesting. From my own point of view the results will be skewed by personal exposure to the brands. In the UK TourEdge is unknown, Bridgestone do not have a European presence. I would rate Sirixon higher than the survey mainly because it is a Brand that seems to have a strong association with my Club Pro.

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      Real Takeaway

      7 years ago

      One way to interpret the survey results is to look at positive ONLY, because it is argued that the positive rankings are more sincere, less subjective, therefore “closer” to the truth With this, the orders of golf bands are:

      Top Brand: Ping (20% + positive)
      Tied at 2nd: Mizuno, Titleist, Callaway (around 15% positive)
      3rd: TaylorMade (around 10% positive)
      Honorable Mention: PXG (7%)

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      Scottna

      7 years ago

      My 2¢. I think whichever brand you get fitted for will outperform any off-the-rack clubs you buy.

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      TR1PTIK

      7 years ago

      I don’t remember many of my answers for the survey, but I do remember associating “engineering” with Ping. However, I realized while reading this that Titleist does just as much engineering – though I believe the bulk of their engineering efforts go to the golf ball. I wonder if (like me) the survey participants made their selections based on their view of how OEMs make and sell clubs or if their selections were focused around other gear (golf ball etc.). I doubt very few participants actually factored in the entire product range for all manufacturers.

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      Shankster

      7 years ago

      Wilson getting an undue bad rap… Most major wins on tour, hard to not like them. Too bad, they’re one of my favorites. The rest I can see for sure and agree with.

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      Ksux

      7 years ago

      People who think Titleist is a good company when it comes to their clubs are total idiots.
      All they have is the ball. And even that, they copied somebody else’s idea.
      Titleist is dishonest when it comes to their forging. It doesn’t tell us what kind of forging it is, how it’s made, or where it’s made.

      Titleist finally caved in and succumbed to copying the speed slot that Adams and Taylormade had. At least TM went and bought Adams to use that design.

      Titleist is nothing without its balls and may be the wedge. But then even the wedge they stole the in-between milling from Cleveland

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      Rod_CCCGOLFUSA

      7 years ago

      PXG is on the front end of golf’s return to elitism, and many who see their muni’s turned over to developers can’t stand it. The joke may be on PXG. “Golfers” of the next generation are not going to pay their prices to hang out at a trendy urban driving range. The return of Caddyshack is within sight.

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      Todd

      7 years ago

      They big boys are close to where I thought they’d be really. Wilson Staff I don’t understand how it worked that way. Switched to C200’s from Ping’s. Later ditched a 905, ok you can laugh, for a D200 driver. Then a few months later picked up a used D100 5 wood for a 904 after hitting it. I finally passed on my trusty Titleist 3 wood for a D300. Maybe it’s the light heads, I don’t know, maybe it’s my clubs we’re long in the tooth. It’s not the sound as none of what I have for woods sound like the other. The only club of the bunch I’ve considered changing is the driver and thought it might be the Fusion. In the end I wasn’t gaining anything on the monitor. All I know is I like what I have better than what I had and I trust the clubs to perform. The C200’s are forgiving and long. I’m only a 14 so I’m no expert, but the clubs I think are great. I even picked up a like new D100 7 wood when I got that 5 wood for kicks. I ought to get over my aversion/pride for taking the 3 iron out of the bag for it. Son in law plays Mizuno and loves them and his Cobras. My youngest son loves his Wilson Staff V6’s, Epic Driver, and Apex hybrid. The V6’s are the sweetest of all and if I could strike a ball like him I’d have those.

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      Jim

      7 years ago

      I voted Taylor Made most dishonest, most deceptive and most gimmick because of their extremely short product cycles and ever changing product line names . Just look at the M1. Absolutely the best club ever they stated when it came out in 2016 and then in 2017 we have the new M1 the absolutely best club ever. With such a short cycle both were in development at the same time. I feel cheated owning a 2016 M1.

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      Rick

      7 years ago

      That’s why I stopped buying their products and switched to Ping. At least, they come out with new merchandise every 18 months. Unlike, Taylormade and Callaway they have something out every 6 months. I too felt cheated with the RSi’s and SLDR.

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      DRMock1

      7 years ago

      Why do you feel cheated? Why are you worried about the short product cycle? There is very little performance differences between what I play (SLDR) and the M1. Try not to worry so much about your ego of having the newest products and base your purchases on performance and you will be much happier with your equipment. If you believe the newer equipment is actually better then you should be happy they introduced the new driver to give you better performance. Just trying to understand your mind set. I personally like the fast product cycles so I can buy relatively new equipment and very low prices.

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      Jim

      7 years ago

      Why do I feel Cheated? Because I believe that while they were rolling out the M1 they already had the 2nd generation ready to go with improvements. Don’t tell me that is the best you have when months later you come out with something new. This has nothing to do with ego. My old Burner 5 wood and 7 year old irons show that. According to you no one should buy a current club and just buy last year’s model. You make my point. The short product cycles are a scam.

      xjohnx

      7 years ago

      The concept of this one word survey is brilliant and I think it is a great way to “formalize” the opinion from a general perspective. However, I think comments should have been disabled from this page because reading everyone’s stupid opinion to go along with their vote takes away from it all. Shame on me for reading most of this.

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      Steve

      7 years ago

      I will also not get my time back after reading these comments. And, even though opinion is opinion, I was sad to see how low level some of the back and forth was.

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      mackdaddy

      7 years ago

      I really don’t understand the dislike/distrust of Taylormade. I don’t own many of their clubs. The M-1 Driver I play is by far the best driver I have ever played. It is very forgiving and very straight for me. I did go through a full fitting to make sure it was set up right for me. I also have two of their hybrids a Rocket balls Stage 2 4 and an M-1 3 hybrid. Both are easy to hit and can be worked both ways or hit straight, high or low. I think they are awesome clubs. I took the survey and really don’t understand the results…

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      Christian Washington

      7 years ago

      What’s the saying? Pioneers take the arrows…

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      Dean

      7 years ago

      Goes to show that one man’s modern, innovative engineering is another’s marketing-driven gimmick. Also, the extent to which golf equipment can be a perception-based, subjective experience for every individual (especially when it comes to the ball).

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      Gary

      7 years ago

      I’ll be surprised if Parsons doesn’t try to sue MGS for publishing this survey.

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      Steve

      7 years ago

      PING wins the whole survey using the positive to negative ratio metric. Nuff said.

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      OTG

      7 years ago

      Although I appreciate your reasons for going with a one choice only survey, I feel it would have been a fairer representation if it was a three choice survey. It would have made people think that little bit more beyond their personal biases.

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      DJPITT

      7 years ago

      Intriguing results to be sure. I’ve always been a Tour Edge fan, specifically the Exotics line. True their Bazooka and JMax lines are difficult to look at, their performance are exceptional – but uninspiring. Entirely different story for their Exotics line. Beautiful clubs – across the board – that perform very well. Their lack of TV and professional advertising no doubt hurts their overall perception and following. Might have been a different outcome if the survey solely focused on the Exotics line. As with Wilson, they try to appeal to the masses and the more serious players – those that will pay big dollars for the latest and greatest. The other manufacturers listed focus primarily on the more serious players. Exotics was the first company to come out with a zero weld cup face club – a 3 wood & hybrids – dating back to late 1990’s. The other more “respected” manufacturers didn’t introduce this “new” technology until a decade later. If that’s not innovation, then I don’t know what is.

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      10shot

      7 years ago

      Let not forget that if u have ur iron adjusted by god himself 2* and the hossel breaks 1 year later ur out of luck. Bad warranty for sure.
      I play TE and have for long.time, but will no longer.

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      Painter33

      7 years ago

      Your comment re: NE Patriots is arrogant, duplicitous, self-serving, obnoxious, weak-minded, and ignorant, not to mention out of place and gratuitous. A disgusting display of inappropriate stupidity. But your Titleist love affair came through loud and clear.

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      OTG

      7 years ago

      lol. The Pats are SUPER arrogant. Deal with it.

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      Snap

      7 years ago

      Touchy, touchy. Maybe the Patriots aren’t but their fans sure are.

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      Scoot24

      7 years ago

      Ah, did Tony hit a nerve? He’s not wrong and never said they weren’t good. He just stated the obvious; they’re arrogant, frequently have been caught cheating and whine more than any team I’ve ever seen.

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      Andrew Han

      7 years ago

      Pats fan here, and all Tony was conveying or comparing was the hate for those at the top. I understand that. Why hate the bottom, you wouldn’t care. Whether Tony believes his statement or not, is another story. He and the rest of the haters can hate all they want. Brady and Belichick has 5 studded knuckles, and Callaway is killing the golf retail game. I am a Titleist guy, but much respect to Callaway.

      BS, that the Pats cheat frequently. You’re just hating. Deflategate was bs as well as spygate. ESPN later apologized for it early in the morning, 12:30 am. Geez I wonder why.

      Link:

      https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/espn-apologizes-to-patriots-for-citing-false-super-bowl-report-from-08/

      Links to deflategate nonesense. Wells Report was trash.

      http://www.aei.org/publication/deflating-deflategate/

      https://www.si.com/nfl/2016/10/04/tom-brady-deflategate-ideal-gas-law

      Joseph Kaiser

      7 years ago

      And those who envy them whine even more.

      Andy Kerestesy

      7 years ago

      Tour edge has a bad rap. I just hit the new 3 wood and that thing is awesome. But its also the only tour edge product i’ve ever hit.

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      Mike Mueller

      7 years ago

      I’ve always liked their exotics line. However a few years back they started jacking up the price on their Woods. Been playing ping since.

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      Andy Kerestesy

      7 years ago

      I agree they are pretty expensive for not being a “top brand”.

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      Greg

      7 years ago

      Great survey MGS! Interesting to see how golfers perceive brands vs. their claims and positioning. I am surprised by the overall good performance of Titleist and PING and so bad of Taylormade. Have experience with both brands and I thought they would performed similarly in this survey. Like the fact that Mizuno is perceived as credible and quality brand, especially that my recent purchases are from them :)

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      Timbo

      7 years ago

      Would be awesome to see this same thing but basis the actual equipment – ball, driver, fairway, hybrid, long irons, short irons, wedges, putters, etc. would be interesting to see how they rank. Then take that brand reputation sentiment and layover actual sales volume numbers, tour wins, and estimated media spend… that would be some cool data visualizations and insights.

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      #1 Ball for a reason.... every season

      7 years ago

      Uninspired… inferior and follower were 3 words people strongly associated with Wilson Golf. Although I currently do not have Wilson clubs in my bag, I have often played Wilson and would not hesitate to play the irons and wedges. I am also very interested in the new C300 Driver, fairways and hybrids. Over Wilson’s long and storied history, they have been HIGHLY innovative and, frankly, have been a leader. I understand this survey reflects the current state of perception but I would challenge anyone who is somewhat unaware of the brand and offerings to give them a test drive. After all, their irons have won 62 Major Championships. Even in the 1990’s and 2000’s when Wilson began to struggle to pay for Tour Support, they won majors with John Daly, Payne Stewart, Vijay Singh, Paul Lawrie, and Padraig Harrington. There may be more but I would suggest MANY players would be playing Wilson if the dollars were different.

      Similarly, it appears Tour Edge needs to take a new approach. They have extremely high quality clubs, extremely high innovation and are likely the ONLY company with a LIFETIME WARRANTY but seem to rank low in innovation and quality. It’s not the clubs that’s the problem…. its the perception of the clubs.

      Maybe Chicago lacks good marketers. Aren’t both located in the Windy City?

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      Allan crowder

      7 years ago

      Agree-Wilson is turning the corner I think. Their FGTour V6 irons are to die for and a great price point

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      Gordon

      7 years ago

      I think Wilson did a lot of damage to the brand when they went to the box sets a decade plus ago. I learned how to play on a set of Wilson Ultra System 45s… still have them in the shed. They were good then, still good now. And Wilson’s new clubs are great products. No longer the box store brand, they are back to making solid performance equipment.
      It will take time, but I am hopeful they can rebuild the brand. Golf is better with more options in the marketplace in the long run.

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      Gordon

      7 years ago

      I would like to add, unlike myself who was lucky to have those System 45s, my best friend learned on a box set of Wilsons, when it came time to upgrade, he wanted NO PARTS of any more Wilsons clubs. Even though the brand was back to making performance clubs again, and priced well.
      I think that is a great example of what 15 years of Box sets can do to a brands “shine” so to speak.

      Scoot24

      7 years ago

      They are the #1 ball every season for a reason which surveys like this reveal; they spend the most money on advertising. That’s it! Most every company has a ball as good. The difference is ProV1 one users have more money to throw away.

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      Lime Shark

      7 years ago

      It might be better if Wilson finally changed the name of their top line clubs from “Wilson Staff” to just “Staff”.

      You buy Wilson clubs in Wal-Mart. No amount of marketing will overcome then low rent smell around the Wilson name.

      I like Wilson Staff clubs, but nobody wants to spend $1,000 on a set of clubs only to hear his neighbor say “I saw some Wilson clubs in Wal-Mart for $97.”

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      Play the Dark Horse clubs

      7 years ago

      I agree 100% with the name change. I do not have bad perception of Wilson Staff, but I understand what you say. I think I would love playing their irons maybe even wedges. Might have to be sold on everything else though. Wilson and Wilson Staff are two different brands even though they are under the same company. Real golfers know quality clubs are always “Staff” not Wilson. This is coming from a 24 year old (only golfer in my family) who frequents Mygolfspy, golfwrx, THP and any site where I kind find a club from a previous season that I might experiment with to see if it stands out.

      Rich

      7 years ago

      Callaway , Taylormade , TourEdge, I know I have seen in WalMart .There are others. What’s the difference in WalMart and the Big Box store brands? Just the name on the building (WalMart ,Brand Dicks etc) All are the same ,the name has been changed to protect the guilty. But I guess the higher price the better the product? I started with WilsonStaff blades forged from the 70’s and Now in the 2000’s I play WilsonStaff Tour V2 forged irons. I have had other irons Callaway X16 Pro, TM R9 TP, Srixon 506i forged, Adams forged, MacGregor forged,Cobra II, The bottom line is it ain’t what it cost ! It’s how it performs and the very first set of butter knife WilsonStaff Blades can still hang with Callaway,TM and the rest of them. Now The Wilson Staff V6 irons are as good as the V2’s and I’m excited about the New Product coming out.. Remember Wilson wasn’t and isn’t the only brand in walmart … or Box stores with their brandname ..
      ,

      Walter

      7 years ago

      Wow I can’t believe how low Tour Edge was on the “good scale”. I’ve been using their woods for years and think they are the best period, they’re consistently longer than any other woods, they’ve been using top rated shafts(not made for) in their products for years, can’t say that about the other name brands. Don’t know about their irons. I’m guessing they rated low because no one has bothered to try their products and only stick with the big names because that what gets splashed all over the big screen.

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      Bdub

      7 years ago

      I LOVE MGS and their mission. I don’t always agree, but sincerely appreciate their cause for the consumer and wish them continued success. As a part-owner of a custom club fitting/building company I have noticed in the past 2 years that the SRIXON line of irons have performed the best. The XR and M2 iron heads next. Sold the least amount of Titleist irons. We are very similar to MGS in the fact that we receive NOTHING (kickbacks or otherwise) from the OEM’s. We are agnostic to brand and believe 100% in giving our clients THE best available clubs to improve performance. MOST of our clients that come into the fitting with an “open mind” end up purchasing something, especially irons, that they had not even considered testing at a big box store.
      The PXG iron is THE best iron I ever played, followed by the Srixon 765. We use Trackman for all of our fittings and Trackman is the true validator (yes, not a real word) as long as the client likes the look and feel (or agrees could get used to the feel) of the club. The new AP3 iron has performed really well too. Keep in mind, our average client is a 10-14 handicap. The Srixon 565 driver was also a great performer.
      Taylormade and Callaway drivers were our top sellers….Callaway probably just barely beat out Taylormade.
      I believe, based on fitting thousands and thousands of golfers, that most players aren’t “open-minded” enough to consider other brands. I love me set of Srixon and PXG irons….and I’m a big believer in performance. I also really liked the performance of the Callaway Xhot Pro irons from a few years ago and still play that set a few times per year (my 14-year old son now plays them and he’s a +0.5).

      I would LOVE to see the results from this survey compared against only answers from custom club fitters/builders that are non-biased/agnostic in brand sales. I think the results would be quite different. PXG, in my opinion, IS the most “arrogant” brand and many consumers will rate them lower because they’re pissed off that will never be able to purchase or even test on of their clubs, but that doesn’t mean they don’t make a good product.
      Just from experience, I believe that many players believe Titleist is the best because they’ve been conditioned that way. For some players Titleist IS the best for their game. The golf shaft isn’t included in this survey and for our company, the right shaft is 80-90% of the equation.
      Again, would love to see the same survey sent to custom club-fitters only and see the difference in results.

      Thanks MSG for your work!

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      john

      7 years ago

      ooh, be careful praising PXG around here, these people can’t afford it and therefore assume they’re terrible.

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      Ron

      7 years ago

      I like your input. I have been checking out the PXG Clubs. I am not rich but a retired person but the price is not that far off compared to other brands. I wish I would have got my last set custom fitted
      I went to the local pro who did some measuring and asked a few question and watch a few hits. I am looking a get a custom fitted clubs.

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      Alex

      7 years ago

      Results surprisingly were right on par with my thoughts. When I buy Mizuno, Ping, or Titleist I equate it to buying a Toyota model that is several years into its cycle. It may not have state of the art styling or performance but it’s also not going to have taken to the shop or sold later because there were certain flaws in construction that haven’t been worked out yet. Got fitted for some x2 hot irons when I was a 28 handicap 3 years ago, when I didn’t know much about the golf club. This year when I was an 18 hcp I really started to notice things I didn’t like about them. The lightweight 85 gram shafts made them inconsist for me and the extra bounce made them tough to play of the dry SoCal fairways. Also the “hot” faces were just that, and also left me worried I might catch it clean and blast it over the green. Bought some Mizuno JPX 850 forged with xp 115 shafts. Was afraid they might Not be game improvement enough for me, but alas dropped my handicap by 2 full strokes in the next 5 rounds. Maybe this discussion would more so how much game improvement irons really improve our game, or maybe I just simply outgrew my old clubs, but either way I’ve learned that the longest iron in a test very well may not be the best for your game, and I do trust those three brands to put accuracy and consistency above distance claims.

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      Andrew Han

      7 years ago

      Thanks for the article and insight to the survey. I was actually waiting for this one. You guys just gave away some valuable information to these OEMs. Not that they don’t have their own marketing team, but you guys were just one or two key demographic attributes away, in my opinion, to giving key information. Age, gender, and possibly the years playing golf. Hope you guys do this again next year, and have it an annual survey. Would be nice to trend the positive to negative graph out.

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      Kmitch

      7 years ago

      @mygolfspy…thank you for the nice one word snapshot… always nice to have an ideal of what others think. Keep up the good work and judging from some of the comments l’m glad it wasn’t two words…way to serious!!

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      RSeg

      7 years ago

      Disapoibtes no to see the Ben Hogan brand. Due tontheir market share, not a surprise. They are the best irons out there. Changed mizunos for the BH and the difference has been huge. Mos noticable in gapping in long irons and the transfer from short irons to wedges. With the BH the swing weight, total weight and feeling flow right through pw to lw

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      Bob Stubbs

      7 years ago

      Its no surprise that PXG was voted most arrogant and I don’t think that would bother Bob Parsons even a little bit.

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      DougE

      7 years ago

      Jeez guys, don’t get so upset by the results. They are what they are. That’s the whole point of the survey. Perceptions. What do golfers THINK? Not what has or has not been proven to be the case. It’s not what SHOULD they think, but what DO they think? Getting upset because TM or Callaway got a lot of negative marks is pointless. You can whine all you want, but it doesn’t change the perception that golfers already have in general. The only people who can change that perception–good or bad—are the manufacturers themselves by how they promote, support, design and build their brand. That’s just how it works. If you make crap, eventually the word will get out and the perception will sink in. If you treat your customers better than most, that word will eventually sink in to the market and a positive perception of your company will form. It takes a long time to gain a good reputation. It doesn’t take anywhere near as long to develop a bad one.

      IMO, TM has earned a lot of the negative rep they carry. It is not going to go away overnight. If they want to have a rep like Ping or Titleist, they’re going to have to spend years developing that image by doing business differently, just like Ping and Titleist have done.

      Wilson does not have a bad rep. They just don’t have a great one. That’s not the fault of how they do business or the quality of their products. That’s more the fault of not having the money behind them to make enough noise. I feel if they did have a bigger marketing budget, when they get to the fork in the road regarding how to position their company, they would go down the same road Ping chose to go. Not the one PXG went down.

      PXG wanted to make a mark, immediately. The Ping road is a long one. The other one is a toll road but will buy you a reputation and brand image–good or bad–much quicker. PXG chose that route. No surprise. They’ve only been around a few years and they are already getting in the same conversations with the top lines in golf. Now that they are there, I think they should start working on their image. Evidently their clubs aren’t bad. They could probably gain some market share if they make their prices more reasonable. Or, they could just keep thumbing their nose at mainstream golf and continue to get negative feelings from most of us. Bob Parsons doesn’t seem to really care. I just don’t see that being a good long-term strategy to making huge profits. But frankly, I care as much about PXG as Bob Parsons cares about most of us. Probably why the perception of PXG is what it is.

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      John

      7 years ago

      Although I have never played PXG, the cost of the performance, if the hype is true, is not worth it relative to the performance/price. Don’t think you can go wrong with any of the better Ping (woods), Titleist (woods, wedges or irons) or Mizuno (irons, wedges). The rest of the field except Wilson which I played as a kid, did not surprise me. Wilson, unfortunately, lost their way from when they made great woods and blade irons to now making department store quality or boring equipment.

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      xjohnx

      7 years ago

      Looks like TaylorMade is going to have to change to a new #1 ______ in golf campaign.

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      Dave

      7 years ago

      Not hog wash at all . It’s how the consumers that answered the questions feel. Does not matter What age women or men this article should be used as a source for the production people and owners of company’s as a tool to sharpen their advertising of their product they are pushing. More articles like this should be done.

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      Oral Sambol

      7 years ago

      All of the brands listed make great quality products. Play what you like and don’t worry about what others think about it! Just have fun!

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      boggey55

      7 years ago

      I’m surprised by some of the results both good and bad. I feel that Wilson is making an effort to improve their position in the market with better and more innovative clubs. The technology they are using is improving their clubs. The results from several of your tests show Wilson better than the BIG names. I hope this will open some peoples’ eyes to Wilson’s commitment to golf.

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      Dave

      7 years ago

      -to Rich ➡chill out, yes age and number of years playing etc are relevant factors, but this was not a Golf Digest, 30,000 people survey (which I wouldnt tust anyway) just a small poll of MGS followers – personally, I do not understand some golfers fervent support of just ONE company to provide for ALL your golf equipment needs ( I do for the pros of course) but for a mid handicap over 65 golfer I am very grateful to be able to select my different clubs/balls from such a variety of companies – I love my Cobra driver, my Calloway irons & fairway woods, my Titliest wedges and my Ping putter – I think I would be hard pressed to find one company that could provide all the clubs in the bag for “my” game – again it’s wonderful to have so many choices

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      Bdub

      7 years ago

      Great post Dave. I totally agree. The Cobra brand is very under-rated IMO

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      Chris Wilkerson

      7 years ago

      Perception is reality. These results could help a few OEM’s.

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      Brian

      7 years ago

      “Value For Money” would be a good category to include. Perhaps the oldest golf club manufacturer in the world – Forgan Golf never get a mention or review by anyone, I have some of their kit – terrific! The driver is the best I’ve ever owned including customised options and I’ve been playing for over 50 years.

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      MrHogan

      7 years ago

      I`m curious as to why the negatives towards Tour Edge. This is a company that does not overly market their brand, sell in retail stores or even pay pros to use their equipment. Tour Edge makes dynamite fairway woods and some of their driver models are pretty innovative. Perhaps the people who view Tour Edge in a negative light don`t really know who they are or the equipment they produce.

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      10shot

      7 years ago

      U nailed it in ur reply. Over the top prices for a non-sponsoring club mgr. 600.00 for a driver, 400.00 for a fairway wood, 200-250.00 per iron. An I play EXi TE it will be my last set however. Their prices now have them at the top of many other mgr and many way over their price.

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      Shane Jones

      7 years ago

      You need to get YOUR facts straight… Tour Edge does not charge $200-$250 per iron for any iron. The “$600 driver” you quote was the XJ1 and they are now only $499 (same as EPIC and it is an extremely limited run). Even the new CBX fairways are $349. Irons are between $75-$125 a piece in the Exotics line. $50-$62.50 a piece in the Hot Launch 2 line.

      Why do you knock them so much? @10Shot? Or are you just a hater

      10shot

      7 years ago

      Ahh, maybe look at the website. 250.00 per black with graphite geeze use ur resource before u go full Monty

      M. Applewhite

      7 years ago

      The Callaway Kool-Aid is strong!

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      Sebastian

      7 years ago

      I cannot believe the negative image people have of Wilson. If you hit the V4 or V6 irons, they are incredible. If you hit their other stuff, it is very good as well. I am very surprised.

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      10shot

      7 years ago

      I agree, Wilson put themselves in the boxmart catagory and will never break out of it.

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      xjohnx

      7 years ago

      People do not understand the separation between Wilson>Wilson Staff. That said, Wilson themselves could arguably be to blame for that as well.

      Wilson Player

      7 years ago

      I think Wilson staff could separate themselves from the Ultra line if they wanted to. I just don’t see them taking the Wilson name off the box sets. Wilson is a huge athletic equipment company, with Golf being a small part of it. They have done a great job selling to beginners and getting people into the game.
      The Staff gear is consistently great. I have 2 sets of irons and my next set will be Staffs
      I believe people who know Wilson Staff know they are quality, those who haven’t played them don’t know enough about them to know what they are missing. They just don’t have enough marketing budget to get above the big names noise, branding, endorsements, commercials and store placement.

      Rioolbuis

      7 years ago

      I really liked reading and seeing the results of the survey. There is a lot to discuss.

      Also you could discuss the negative status of arrogance in this case. Is it really a negative?

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      Jordan

      7 years ago

      When I see someone playing PxG clubs, its the equivalent of someone playing a Staff Bag.

      -Dude, you’re not good enough for that noise, but whatever floats your ego…

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      Bdub

      7 years ago

      Why do you have to be “good enough” to play a staff bag or PXG clubs? IF you can afford it and it makes you happy then why not? There are THOUSANDS of golfers playing Titleist or Mizuno blades that you could make that same comment to, but you won’t because why? Also, what’s your opinion and beef with Staff Bags? Staff bags are GREAT if you don’t walk because you can stuff your entire closet in one of those things…hahahaha! It’s like a daggum suitcase. It just seems like a lot of people are jealous cuz they can’t afford to buy PXG (or other high end brand) or staff bags, even though we KNOW they’d consider if they had the financial ability to do so. To each their own, no?

      Carolina Golfer 2

      7 years ago

      If companies make staff bags available for sale, then why shouldn’t someone buy and use one if they like it. Telling someone they are not good enough to use a piece of equipment that never hits a ball comes off as a “noise” to me. just sayin. Play what you want, and leave other to play what they want.

      Andrew Han

      7 years ago

      Totally agree with BDUB. A lot of hate and jealousy. I would bet most people, if given the chance or opportunity would gander or buy a PXG set. You wouldn’t deny it if given for free. I would also bet most people that buy expensive sports cars don’t even red line it or peel out. Its for show and exclusivity. I look at Japanese OEM and PXG in the same manner. Market to those with money or searching for the exclusivity. No need to judge on whether or not they deserve to own them or not. Some people work hard for their money, let them enjoy it.

      Jeff

      7 years ago

      I have a full set from Driver to putter of PXG clubs. I bought every one on eBay and had them fitted by my PGA Pro who has been the update NY PGA pro of the year several times and is a experts expert. They are the best clubs I have every swung and are on par with Mizuno for irons and wedges, their woods and putter vastly surpass Mizuno. My Pro who fitted them commented that they were the most consistent and well crafted he had ever worked with. Are they expensive yes, but arrogant and hyped up is completely incorrect. They are a Porsche, you don’t hold Porsche to the same standard as Honda, both great in their own rights, but not apples to apples.

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      Scott

      7 years ago

      Based on the testing I’ve done w PXG I would not be surprised about your writeup claiming them to be the Porsche of golf clubs. There’s something there w them no doubt. The feel and the numbers I was seeing don’t lie. I firmly believe that if they’re 0311 irons as example were priced on par w everyone else that people’s opinion and these survey results would be completely different if not completely in favor of pxg. I’d also be curious to look at PXGs financials compared to everyone else. I bet they’re one of the few golf company’s out there actually making money rather than losing

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      Snap

      7 years ago

      I believe most golfers have seen that there isn’t much difference in performance between clubs. We’ve all bought a ton of equipment and besides feel and looks they performed pretty much the same year in and year out. Not to say feel isn’t mucho importante or there aren’t differences, but most golfers are tired of the over inflated claims and prices to go with them. I’d love to give them a swing but how much difference would they make to my game?

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      Rizzo

      7 years ago

      Given the extensive fitting process you go through with PXG clubs, my guess is more of a difference than you’d expect.

      Todd

      7 years ago

      I was just fit at Sea Island, GA. Driver – LW. My clubs were all a good fit except wedges, I had been playing Vokeys. I hit multiple shots from full swing to delicate pitches with 5 wedges from different companies, I was not allowed to look at what they were. PXG wedges were the hands-down winner for me. I choked at the prices, but I had just seen the proof and ordered them.

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      Mitchell

      7 years ago

      Comparing pxg to Porsche and other clubs is misguided. A more accurate comparison would be pxg clubs are like taking a Honda putting wheels and tires and a paint job and claiming its faster. While doubling the price.

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      Christian Washington

      7 years ago

      You’ve never actually swung a PXG club, have you? There were a few non-believers at my course until a fitting day early in the season. Now, about half the guys have some PXGs in the bag. For me, the irons, wedges, and hybrids are the best I’ve ever hit. I realize it isn’t the same for everyone but *everyone* I know who has put their hands on PXGs agrees that they’re phenomenal golf clubs.

      DDRyan

      7 years ago

      Thanks Tony and MGS- great poll, and as usual, outstanding analysis of individual’s feelings about the industry. Since many purchases are based on “feelings” versus “facts” (our MGS community excepted) this says quite a bit- and the industry leaders are probably looking at this and contemplating how this jibes with their goals and how they are seen in the marketplace.

      Keep up the great work!

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      KM

      7 years ago

      “Nobody makes clubs the way we do, period”

      Yup thats because TaylorMade made them that way in the 90s!

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      10shot

      7 years ago

      I agree, Wilson put themselves in the boxmart catagory and will never break out of it.

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      PlaidJacket

      7 years ago

      I wish the survey questions could have been posted along with the results. I remember taking the survey but many times I’d make a selection that didn’t fit with my thoughts so I just selected something and moved on. I thought at the time the survey was not very well constructed or that it would produce any meaningful results. The sample size is also minuscule as MGS reaches over 7,000,000 golfers in 2017. I much prefer, enjoy and trust the club data MGS produces. That’s’ the real deal.

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      Scott

      7 years ago

      I don’t own any PXG clubs however I’ve tried them. I bet if PXG sold they’re clubs at the same price range as everyone else these charts and graphs would be completely different.

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      Carolina Golfer 2

      7 years ago

      Thanks for posting this along with the observations. Not too far from what I expected and what I voted in many cases.

      The one exception is Wilson, I hate to see so many people voted them inferior. This is so far from the case. To me it shows a lack of the general golfer not giving the current Wilson Staff lineup a try. They may not be the best, but they certainly aren’t the worst by any stretch of the imagination.

      The fact they were also ranked highest in Uninspired can be taken with a bit more of an open eye. F or whatever reason they not gotten their product out to public enough for them to see it is far from inferior.

      They are not easily found to demo, which is going to make it hard to overcome the other outdated in my mind views on it’s product.

      But very interesting survey and results.

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      Kenny B

      7 years ago

      I totally agree with CG2. I replaced my TaylorMade FW and hybrids with Wilson Staff clubs because they were a vast improvement. I liked the looks of the irons, but after hitting them I decided they were not for me. However, I had no issue with the quality. Wilson Staff will always remain on my radar when I go club looking.

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      Rizzo

      7 years ago

      So much salt being tossed at TM and PXG. I’d be willing to bet that most of the people that have these negative connotations have not gone through the PXG process and thus really have no basis for their remarks. TM has also laid kind of low lately, but still gets crushed for product cycles, despite other companies (callaway for example) having the same, if not shorter product cycles, but that’s none of my business.

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      MyGolfSpy

      7 years ago

      “Brands are not just what they say they are. Brands are what consumers say they are.”

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      Rizzo

      7 years ago

      I understand we currently live in an age and time where perception is the only thing that matters, regardless of fact. I just cannot understand how we have gotten to this point.

      Joseph Dreitler

      7 years ago

      TM certainly got crushed for their emphasis on marketing with too many releases (to try and generate profits for hard goods comparable to Adidas soft goods, which has been exhaustively discussed on this site.) Jury is still out on whether the private equity folks that bought TM will actually try to change the prior business model, or will they try to cut costs in order to turn around and take it public.

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      Sharkhark

      7 years ago

      But you can’t argue perception. Doesn’t matter what people’s experience is with a brand or not. It’s their perception.
      And the arrogant type of advertising etc gives a certain feeling impression. I think thru make cool stuff

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      Jn76

      7 years ago

      This survey needs be done yearly.

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      Gorden

      7 years ago

      Nice article, I still think for the average player it comes down to playing the clubs you really want…be it Ping or PXG if you can afford them and they say to you play me and you get a kick out of playing them that matters more in the end rather you shoot 89 or 87…

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      Rich

      7 years ago

      HOG WASH !!!!!!
      -What are the ages of those that replied.under 20 , 30-40,50+
      -What brand do they play now and how long have they been playing golf?
      -What other brand have they played and for how long?
      -How many are women ,men replied?
      -What are their incomes? What was their first brand played? Let’s get more detail as to the demografs …..

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      10shot

      7 years ago

      I think it matters to the equipment mrg. The folks that replied to the suvey buy stuff. Money makes the golf industry go round.

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      Robert Dwyer

      7 years ago

      Well done, this should send a message to the industry, regarding what a significant number of true industry followers think.
      While the words do send a message I would like to have seen some commentary on economic issues as it relates to these companies and the current cost of golf in general.

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      Johnny Cowboy

      7 years ago

      PXG is the Donald Trump of Golf

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      Jn76

      7 years ago

      Heh! Not that I have strong feelings against or for Donald, but thats a good description.

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      Reply

      7 years ago

      So gets things done, puts America first, loves the military, supports the troops, and is proud to be American? Yea, I guess Bob and PXG are like that. Just like Donald I support them both.

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      Robin

      7 years ago

      Marine corp 1980 to 85 thank you for replying I couldn’t say it better.

      Johnny Cowboy

      7 years ago

      I am amazed at your stupidity.

      Artie1

      7 years ago

      Love the military too, but don’t think we can afford them. Take just 10% from the $650 billion the Pentagon consumes and build roads and school, we need that more than another $1 billion aircraft carrier.

      BenB

      7 years ago

      Well Said. MAGA!

      TC

      7 years ago

      That may describe Parsons. It certainly doesn’t describe Trump.

      Joseph Dreitler

      7 years ago

      Without getting political, agree with you that PXG is arrogant and for me at least it goes to its owner and his “claims”. I am biased as a lawyer of 40 years, because I have seen how he made his 2nd fortune, selling millions of domain names that infringe on legitimate trademarks/brands and then selling a service to the people who register knock-off domains that hides the names of those people so you have to sue GoDaddy and then GoDaddy throws up their hands and say “not us, here is the name of the guy who did it, dismiss us and sue him”. Nothing smart and nothing clever about it, any more than the guy on the street corner selling you the new iPad he just “found”.

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      Robin

      7 years ago

      We supposed to believe a lawyer, now your asking a lot.

      Joseph Dreitler

      7 years ago

      brilliant comment. Very intelligent.
      Your insights about how Parsons created his business model and runs it are…based on nothing where at least I have 20 years of having to deal with it. But thanks for sharing your snarky comment that is based upon nothing but a throwaway insult to someone who you have never met, do not know and never will. Gee, that is real mental firepower to make a dismissive comment that says nothing. Whatever you do for a living must be wonderful and you must be a great success if you just make stuff up and dismiss anything that doesn’t fit your preconceived notions out of hand. We need more people like you running businesses.

      Birdieputt13

      7 years ago

      Joseph; why don’t you and Robin step outside and settle your differences while we get back to the results of the survey.

      Snap

      7 years ago

      WOW that is really trashing PXG!

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      Jon

      7 years ago

      So would that make TaylorMade the Hillary?

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      Painter33

      7 years ago

      Yeah – both require someone else’s brain and effort to do the real work.

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      Golfinnut

      7 years ago

      No surprise of the 21% negative responses to Taylor Made. Wonder if their current status has anything to do with it?
      I am surprised at the negative response to Titleist. Not that I’m a Titleist homer or anything! HA!

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      W.B. Neal

      7 years ago

      Mabe they could sponser Bubba Watson and Jason Dufner and complete the arrogance designation.

      Reply

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