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The 7 Golf Traditions That Should Be Retired

Earlier this year, I wrote about how I am more of a golf traditionalist compared to my other MGS colleagues.

I’m a big fan of golf’s evolution to being more progressive but I still have a handful of traditions I never want to let go of (no matter how many commenters call me snobby or elitist).

Today is a much better day for the haters—we’re talking about the traditions that should be retired.

Despite my love of golf’s history and decorum, there are certain elements that no longer have a place in our game. They are beyond outdated at this point and it’s time to put them out to pasture.

Without further delay, here are seven golf traditions we can live without.

1. Making stroke play the default for every round

Don’t get me started here.

Stroke play has its place within golf but I just don’t understand why so many golfers treat it as the only legitimate way to play.

It’s basically the hardest way to play a very hard game. One disastrous hole can hang over an entire afternoon. Someone takes a nine, decides the round is ruined and spends the next three hours complaining about their swing.

Match play gives you a fresh contest on the next tee. Stableford provides a reason to keep chasing points. Alternate shot gives you a teammate to celebrate with.

Golf offers too many ways to compete for every round to become another tedious man versus course battle (spoiler, the course usually wins).

We should all want to try different formats to have more fun on the course.

2. A “round of golf” having to be 18 holes

Nine holes is real golf. I’m even here to defend that six holes after work or a quick three-hole loop before dinner should qualify as a round of golf.

Yet golfers frequently talk about a shorter outing as though it’s an incomplete assignment or not as satisfying based solely on the number of holes completed.

That mindset makes the game harder to fit into everyday life. If you can’t spare most of a day, you start thinking you can’t play at all.

Not all of us have a six-hour block of time to spare, man. I’m sure most of us would prefer more golf if given the option but it’s not something that is feasible for a lot of people.

I’m a big proponent of courses making shorter visits easier to book and golfers should stop apologizing for enjoying them. Short courses and reduced rates for fewer holes are two ways to make that happen.

Let’s normalize a legitimate “round of golf” being various lengths of time and number of holes played.

3. Taking hats off indoors as a test of character

I understand that some clubs have this rule and I follow it when I’m a guest. You go inside a clubhouse and you take off your hat.

But I’ve never understood why a golfer quietly wearing a hat in the clubhouse is considered less respectful than someone who removes it and then treats the staff terribly.

This concept of having to take your hat off indoors extends beyond golf. To me, this is one of those rules that is purely a tradition because someone decided it should be many years ago. There is no functional reason why having your hat on indoors should be considered disrespectful.

I believe courtesy should be measured by behavior. Be polite. Tip generously. Clean up after yourself. Be considerate of the people around you.

Those things tell me considerably more than whether I can see your sweaty hair.

Whereas other private club rules (such as no-phone zones) potentially serve a reasonable purpose, it no longer makes sense for golfers to get tapped on the shoulder every time they forget to take their hat off when walking indoors.

4. Calling them “men’s tees” and “women’s tees”

This is a pretty obvious one to me. There is nothing political about it, in my eyes.

A tee marker doesn’t know your gender. It also doesn’t know your age, ego or what you shot five years ago.

We should describe tees by color, number, animal or playing distance—whatever the case, we should then help golfers choose a set suited to their game. Forget about automatically trudging to the “men’s tees” because it’s a tradition.

A woman who hits it farther than the men in her group shouldn’t feel nudged forward. A man who would enjoy the course more from a shorter distance shouldn’t feel embarrassed about moving up.

The objective is to play an interesting course at a manageable length. Gender contributes nothing useful to that decision.

5. Hyper-specific dress codes that go beyond presentable clothing

A course can reasonably ask people to show up in clean, appropriate clothes. I think that’s totally fair.

Where courses jump the shark with dress codes is when we get into elaborate policies covering shirt collars, sock length, the number of pockets on your shorts and precisely where your shirt must end.

Clothing rules become especially frustrating when they reject something comfortable and functional simply because it doesn’t resemble what members wore decades ago. Come on, man.

While I feel comfortable in a more standard golf outfit, clubs going extremely granular on dress code is a tradition we need to shoot into the sun.

6. A hole-in-one meaning that the ace-maker has to buy drinks for everyone

I’ve written about this before, but one of golf’s most ridiculous traditions is that golfers making a hole-in-one are responsible for paying the 19th hole tab.

Huh? This is like the groom having to pay for everything at his bachelor party.

The hole-in-one tradition is to the point where golfers buy insurance for such an occasion.

Look, I don’t want to be a curmudgeon—making an ace is really cool and it’s a blast to celebrate them. It’s so unlikely (12,500-to-1 odds for mere mortals) that it’s worth making a big deal of every one. 

Enjoy that accomplishment however you want. But doesn’t it seem a little dated for a golfer to make a hole-in-one and then feel obligated to immediately open a tab? 

If anything, it should be the other way around. 

Also, not everyone drinks alcohol. We need some new traditions.

7. Giving the best charity scramble prizes to the lowest score

Well, you know my feelings on charity scrambles at this point.

A charity scramble should raise money and give people a fun day on the course. Yet we often reserve the best prizes for the team that turns in the lowest score—in a format where verifying what anyone actually shot is nearly impossible.

As I’ve written before, cheating in scrambles is a (very first-world) problem. Attaching valuable prizes to the results gives dishonest teams another reason to shave a few strokes. Meanwhile, the honest group that paid the same entry fee gets to applaud a score nobody believes.

Give the winners a trophy and bragging rights. Put the expensive prizes in a drawing open to every participant.

If the purpose is supporting a good cause, your generosity shouldn’t need to come with a 48 on the scorecard.

So those are the seven traditions I want to retire. What do you think? Let me know below in the comments.

Top Photo Caption: Jason Day writes on his scorecard. (GETTY IMAGES/Carl Recine)

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Sean is a longtime golf journalist and underachieving 10 handicap who enjoys the game in all forms. If he didn't have an official career writing about golf, Sean would spend most of his free time writing about it anyway. When he isn't playing golf, you can find Sean watching his beloved Florida Panthers hockey team, traveling to a national park or listening to music on his record player. He lives in Nashville with his wife, Anja, and dog, Hogan.

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      phil

      2 weeks ago

      The hole in one thing has never made sense. I’d prefer there’d be no obligation on anyone’s part to pay for anyone else’s drink of choice. If my buddies or the course want to say congratulations and buy me one, cool, if they don’t, cool. The dress code thing is the dumbest thing in thing in the sport today. People show up in poor fitting clothes and otherwise look completely disheveled, but because the shirt has a collar or the shorts aren’t athletic shorts it’s considered appropriate. The number of brands that sell obnoxious and ugly shirts, but because it has a collar it’s considered “appropriate attire”, but you show up in a plain and comfortable crew neck shirt you then have to spend $100 on a collared shirt to play. So f-ing stupid. Obviously clubs can set whatever rules they want, the number of stupid rules at clubs is virtually too long to publish even on the internet, but it doesn’t make the rules any less stupid! The other things on this list I also generally agree with. With available technology a course could easily charge a per hole rate and that way people can play 1 or 54 holes in a day. Tee boxes should be broken down by the average 5-iron carry distance standard and if someone doesn’t know that number then they should be informed that they play from the forward most tees until they do and then they can move to the most appropriate distance and different people playing from different tees within the same group does not add time at all. The funny thing is most people take this as some sort of insult, when in reality playing the appropriate distance makes the round (however many holes it consists of) MORE fun not less. Whatever. Golf is my most favorite selfish endeavor in the world to do and I think generally the more people playing the better, and the elitism and traditional BS is exhausting and as dumb as “unwritten rules” in baseball.

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      Rlodbrok

      4 weeks ago

      Come to mainland Europe where all these points are mitigated.

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      Luke

      4 weeks ago

      I feel like the Hole-in-one thing is pretty obvious – everyone would be lying about holes in one if it meant they would get free drinks from everyone. If YOU are the one buying drinks for everyone it means you legitimately made a hole in one or you’re an attention seeking psychopath!

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      Groplex

      4 weeks ago

      In what might be the most boring reply to this article, I totally agree with all of it. My challenge to Sean, others (and myself) is how do we take this gold and turn it into meaningful action – what can we do to make these things reality? I’d love nothing more than to turn up at my next charity day, after having holed out for an ace and not shouted the bar, with a ticket in a raffle to win a new TV which the bandits who shot 46 off the stick didn’t automatically receive and blah blah blah, you get the rest. Let’s do this

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      Duane Martin

      4 weeks ago

      The “standard 4:15” for a round needs to be flushed down the toilet.
      That time should be from the tips on a 7000 yd course, the shorter the yardage, the shorter the time.
      Weekend hackers playing at 5900 yds shouldn’t take MORE time than those playing 6500-7000.
      Also, the hyper focus on dress code rather than getting people to use the sand bottles and fixing pitch marks.
      I’ll take Paige Spiranic over the well dressed foursome that doesn’t fix ball marks or divots any day.

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      The Swami

      4 weeks ago

      MGS: our site hits are down. quick, someone pen some blathering article about hot takes on things we should change in golf for the 999th time. and make sure to take mostly antagonistic sides of each thought for more clicks!

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      Barry

      4 weeks ago

      I’d add “having to remove your hat when shaking hands at the end of a round” Where did this originate from and what is the purpose?

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      Tom S.

      4 weeks ago

      This is a tradition that started on the PGA Tour, back in the day when some players had sponsors’ names or logos on their hats, and some players had no sponsorships. They removed their hats at the end of the round to signify “At least at this moment, we are all equal.” People who watched tournament golf on television copied what the pros did, so they started doing this as well.

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      The Swami

      4 weeks ago

      the most simple Google search will gladly prove this incorrect.

      Daniel

      4 weeks ago

      You totally missed the dumbest rule/tradition that needs to go! The one stipulating that only one ball can be used. Up to three need to be allowed. It is truly idiotic to force an athlete to use tools that are totally not suited to the game. What makes a great ball with a driver doesn’t make a great ball with a wedge and vice versa. It is an incoherent, idiotic slice of bureaucracy at play.

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      Eric

      4 weeks ago

      Wonderful idea, lets add an additional thing players can do to make the pace of play even worse.

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      Pete

      4 weeks ago

      What other pearls of wisdom can you give us?

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      John Paton

      4 weeks ago

      I’m with Tony – “dumbest article ever written” but I’ll play along and agree to “hats in the clubhouse” if you agree to “no cutlery in the restaurant”

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      Tony

      4 weeks ago

      Perhaps one of the dumbest articles ever written

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      Joseph K

      4 weeks ago

      Perhaps one of the least thoughtful and meaningful comments ever written.

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      Krauter

      4 weeks ago

      Getting rid of the “Ladies” tee is fine with me, but with that, the red tee marker must be eliminated too.

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      Krauter

      4 weeks ago

      1. I’m all for playing formats other than stroke play, but unless it’s part of an organized tournament, golfers have no interest in alt-shot, either b/c of too much pressure, or too few shots per player. 3. Take the hat off, AND be respectful. They’re not mutually exclusive. 7. The scramble cheats don’t make me mad, they disgust me. They’re the equivalent of shoplifters, and uninsured motorists. They don’t give a f… darn how their actions my effect others. The future fix? A drone assigned to each group, allowing scores to be confirmed. I don’t know anything about drone tech, but I would think that it’s possible now, and will be much more feasible in the coming years. The Integrity Check Drone Company. Man, I wish I had money and motivation.

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      Daren

      4 weeks ago

      Divots in the fairway. Footprints in the bunkers.
      —-
      I dont care what the rules say, they dont account for a-holes that I got stuck playing behind. Take relief from divots and bunker footprints.

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      David Magahy

      1 month ago

      At my current club the owners shout the competitors when someone gets a hole in one. They ring a bell, announce the winner and then we’ve got approximately 5 minutes to order our drink. It is only for competitors, not other people who happen to be in the clubhouse at the time.

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      RD CONE

      4 weeks ago

      My rule for amateurs is “Double Bogey Is Enough”. Speeds play, allows you to be aggressive when laying one over and takes a triple out of play. Finally, less stress because it doesn’t screw up the entire round. 36 Handicap is enough.

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      Ron

      1 month ago

      LOVE #7! So sick of these clowns coming in with a score that nobody believes would be possible, even if they were all scratch players.

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      Ace

      1 month ago

      Look there are people who play golf and there are Golfers, why is it the people who just play golf feel the need to change all of the traditions to suit them? If you don’t want to remove your hat, If you want to have your shirt untucked with your hat on backwards play those courses!! Play the courses that suit you, play the tees that suit you! why is it let’s change everything for ME, if you play hit and giggle that’s your choice, but why must everybody change to suit you? there are hundreds of option of places to play, choose which one you belong at, It’s real simple, some courses frown on you pulling out your wire brush to clean your shoes in the parking lot, some course frown upon you bringing a 12 pack of Hamms because you’re too cheap to buy a few beers at the course, some courses frown on you blaring your music so people four fairways over know your play list, most courses want bunkers raked and ball marks fixed. So it’s not a class thing or elitism it’s simple Golf etiquette for certain clubs, Play the courses that fit your needs, then complain about the shitty condition and cost of the rounds because you don’t want to pay for the beers or a sandwich!

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      TB

      1 month ago

      So what you’re saying is all the best courses should be reserved for people who play the game the way you think it should be played? Did you want to be the pot or the kettle today?

      There’s a difference between the extremism you’re describing and what’s described in this article.

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      Douglas Hawley Anderson

      4 weeks ago

      Doing all the silly stuff does not make you a golfer. It makes you a reactionary. Just like the most ridiculously dressed people in history of our nation were our founding fathers, you will be considered a defender of the an anachronistic.

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      Mike E

      1 month ago

      on #4, I recenlty learn how the measure golf courses, my home course is a 9 hole course so the back 9 you play from a different set of tees to complete the 18 hole round, so we don’t have much space to place 5 or 6 tee boxes, when it got measure for some modifications it got, they explain that the tees are for everyone, but the course rating and slope rating had to be done different for men and women, this is because they use average hitting distances, I know there are women who hit it harder than men but those distances are taking in to account on the average, having say that, it only matters if you want to have an official WHS index.

      On #6, some wrote on the comments it exists for a reason, I think is because way back if you got a HIO you would get the drinks or something and some people would lie about, so they made that tradition. In my group if you make a HIO we make a dinner to celebrate and not only you don’t pay for it, we pay for the person that made a HIO and you get a 100 USD from each member of the group.

      Rest of the article works for me either way.

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      Daniel Senecoff

      1 month ago

      I like these. The scramble is especially good. There is a funny meme circulating now about a team turning in a 17. Not 17 under, 17 – 17 ones and a zero.

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      Richard Lyons

      1 month ago

      I think you’re right on – especially 6 and 7!

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      Ernie NOT Els

      1 month ago

      Oh, here you go again with your little crusade. Enough already, you are worse than those infernal democratic socialists. Give it a rest, you are causing unnecessary heartburn, especially to us older folks who happen to appreciate tradition. Practice what you preach with the whole thing about being considerate. Not everybody sees the world like you do.

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      Douglas Hawley Anderson

      4 weeks ago

      Didn’t know this wsas a political issue.
      Tump drives on the greens and cheats.
      Don’t now any of my progressive that do either.

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      Ernie NOT Els

      4 weeks ago

      As usual, touchy ‘tard cannot read a post without injecting their misplaced ire and missing the whole point.

      Barry

      4 weeks ago

      Only thing worse than Democratic Socialists is dopey Republicans who don’t have any idea what Socialism actually is, nor are they sufficiently inclined to find out. Might surprise you.

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      Ernie NOT Els

      4 weeks ago

      Okay, care to define socialism, since none of us know what it is?

      phil

      2 weeks ago

      If possible you should just replace your name with the Grandpa Simpson yelling at the clouds GIF. How in the world do you have heartburn because someone made an innocuous list of golf traditions they’d like to see changed. And exactly how was the author being “inconsiderate” because his employer published an article, however inane YOU find it?? Hilarious that you called someone else “touchy” because you introduced a completely unrelated political framework and you are the one developing “heartburn” over some words written on a website…”hello pot, this is the kettle, you’re black.”

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      Bon Rurgundy

      1 month ago

      How does Sean Fairholm still have a job on this platform? Every article of his is clickbait nonsense, you’d think someone with “opinion” articles would have good opinions, this guy is a joke.

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      Joseph K

      4 weeks ago

      No one forced you to read it. Why did you waste the time? Next time just skip over his article and you won’t have any reason to complain.

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      Ernie NOT Els

      4 weeks ago

      Well noted. The guy will not give it a rest.

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      phil

      2 weeks ago

      It would seem he has a job because he does it quite well. He writes “clickbait” which then causes a person like yourself to click on the bait and visit the website and engage with the website, which ultimately helps to make his employer money. Seems like the definition of a pretty good employee to me.

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      Hen Bogan

      1 month ago

      MGS that hard up to show engagement metrics, that you need to gaslight your viewers with this kinda of non-sense? What happened to you guys.

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      Gary Benson

      1 month ago

      This is a little off point, but the comments about choosing the right tee reminded me of a favorite golf story of mine from years ago. Three of us decided to go down to Cog Hill south of Chicago and play the famous “Dubsdread,” home of many Western Opens and some BMW’s. We were going to play some fairly forward tees. The golf course added a fourth player to ourgroup, a gentlemen who did not speak English. When it was his turn to tee off on Number One, he walked back to “the tips” (about 7400 yards) and put his tee in the ground. His wild swing caught about one dimple on the top of the ball, which rolled about 10 feet.

      Upon almost missing the ball, he screamed out –“Ooooooooohh Nooooooo!!!”

      All three of us quickly walked back to him and then helped him move forward to our tees. He shot about 115 from there.

      A great example of “playing the wrong tees.”

      Oh — and many years later, when one of us hit a really poor shot, we yell out –“Ooooooooooo Nooooooo!!”

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      Most of these rules are about separating the “royalty’ and the “working class”. “Qu’ils mangent de la brioche”. I could easily afford one of the two private clubs in the area. But why? The members there are just “better than me”. Is golf about tweed jackets and plus fours? I thought it was a shepherds game. When the weather is cool I’ll wear a pair of jeans. If my shorts have pockets on the outside. My choice. If I make an ace I’ll buy drinks for my foresome. Why not? The whole course. Not happening. Us nearing 80 guys will move up a tee in the cool PNW winters. If we have a “bad” lie in the fairway we just “fix it”. It’s not the US Open or Augusta. It’s a $35 muni. We are out for fun and exercise. (yes we walk and use push carts). It’s golf. Not high mass at the Vatican.

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      Hopp Man

      1 month ago

      Exactly! Don’t tell me what to wear or whether I need to tuck my shirt in or that I shouldn’t play in cargo shorts, my choice on how I dress to play golf, whatever is comfortable. or works best for the weather at hand.

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      BULLNECK

      1 month ago

      Agree with everything except the hats and dress code. Hats were created to protect from the elements, there are no elements indoors, no reason to wear them, especially backwards. I like that there is a dress code, it’s not hard to meet it and the length of the shirt shouldn’t matter as it should always be tucked in

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      David

      4 weeks ago

      Always tucked in so you 5 inch beer belly hangs over your white 1 inch belt with a gold buckle on it! I also don’t want to see the water running off you semi-hairless head and dripping off you untrimmed eye brows.

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      Objective reviewer 1

      4 weeks ago

      So why can ladies wear them inside? Also, don’t your shoes and shirt “protect you from elements “?

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      Robert G

      1 month ago

      Common sense should prevail. As a teaching pro once told me if you want to tee it up 150 yards down the fairway go ahead if your more comfortable there you paid to be there. It might also speed up play while being behind less skilled players. As far as the hole in one deal is concerned, I would like to get my $375 back that was one of the more expensive rounds I ever played.

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      bob

      1 month ago

      disagree on 3 and 5. There are plenty of places to play where you can wear your hat indoors and wear anything you want on the course. Go play there.

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      Dalilama 8455

      1 month ago

      Agree with the actual golf suggestions you make, but stay in your lane on social suggestions (3&5). You are brilliant in discussing the actual game of golf, not so much on social standards. Reasonable attire requirements serve a purpose. I had the pleasure of playing Bay Hill many times and if Arnie saw you wearing a hat inside his lodge, you’d hear about it. I’d love to see if you had the gall to tell the King that his proper attire regulations were dated and unnecessary. Somehow, I doubt it. If you think a given course’s restrictions are burdensome, then go play elsewhere. But don’t throw the baby out with the bath water.

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      Derek

      1 month ago

      Repeat after me, they’re the FORWARD tees, growing up in the industry and knowing many excellent women golfers I cringe when I hear the term Ladies Tee.

      I’d rather donate $300 to a charity than ‘play’ a 6hr round followed by 2+ hours of dinner and prizes. I don’t have time for that

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      Clint Andrews

      1 month ago

      Price is the driver for me on #2. It hurts to pay one fee and then not play 18 holes. I feel cheated. If I belonged to a club, I’m sure I’d feel differently and play more short rounds.
      As for hats indoors, my only complaint there is you’e played 18 holes (see above) in the Kansas summer heat and you look like hell when you remove your hat.

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      Dave Wilcynski

      1 month ago

      Agree with all these. You can add taking your hat off shaking hands after the round is also unnecessary. You can also add allowing men professional golfers to wear shorts during tournament play. Dumb tradition to me.

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      l33trevino

      1 month ago

      #6 is that way for a reason. Please do your research on this particular subject.

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      Mike

      1 month ago

      Many public courses don’t have a bar or eating spot. You’ll get a Gatorade or a beer from me.

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      Warthog

      1 month ago

      Expand, please.

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      EddieRay

      1 month ago

      Removing your hat when entering someone’s house, a club house, etc., is just good manners. Showing respect for the host, the organization is not something that should be throwen in the “ditch”. On the other hand those who sit and watch the TV have a few libations and wear their hats backwards, leave much to be desire.

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      Howard Siggelko

      1 month ago

      I used to coordinate golf outs for a company I worked for. I switched to winner prizes being golf balls and did drawings for everyone when we watched the top brass cheat so bad it wasn’t funny. Closest to pin when I saw their tee shot not close to green, scorecards that didn’t match what was observed. Pitiful

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      Fake

      1 month ago

      Our local scramble had prizes for raffle or auction. The winning team gets their picture taken with the trophy, which I’m sure is a $20 Amazon item. It’s just for fun and supports a good cause. That’s all it needs to be. The raffles are entirely random. Last year, a kid won about $400 and a round of golf. Fun day for them.

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      Hopp Man

      1 month ago

      I actually agree with all of these, especially dress codes, hats and hole in ones.

      I would laugh at people that complain about dress if they played courses in Colorado that are open in the winter, people commonly wear jeans and it doesn’t bother me at all. I have even seen farmers and other workers wearing jeans in the summer, too hot for me but I don’t care what they wear as long as they play reasonably quickly. Jeans, flannel shirts, white socks, seen it all in the winter when people play when it is 40degs.

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      Mary

      4 weeks ago

      String bikinis are always a favorite of mine.

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      Larry

      1 month ago

      Agree with everyone. As far as the charity scramble it’s very simple. Give them a reason to cheat. They will. Have 5 EQUAL prizes.
      1st place 10th place 20th place 30th place. Last place. SO WHEN 8 teams try to cheat for 1st place 7 lose. Love that format.

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      Ken

      1 month ago

      Scramble prizes should definitely be a random drawing. Definitely not fun and sometimes people don’t come back due to unofficial cheating. Make it about the charity. Not about winning the scramble. If some high-roller’s ego needs to be fed by claiming to win the charity, get some mental health help.

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      MARK C MISCHENKO

      1 month ago

      Taking hats off indoors …
      Wear it OUTSIDE — Not inside! Nor in the common, mixed-use, bar/restaurant or social function areas.

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      Dr Tee

      1 month ago

      I’m with you on most of these except #7–charity scrambles are exist primarily to have fun and contribute to the charity. I really don’t care who goes home with what prizes and neither should you.
      Without a doubt, I have a number of much nicer T-shirts than some of the garish butt ugly collared golf shirts I’ve seen make their way onto the course.
      And with regards to the no hat rule–this drives me crazy. I ‘m ok with no hats only in sit-down dining areas, that’s just how I was brought up. But at my club, hat’s are forbidden for men, but are permitted for women–often the same “unisex” logoed hat or visor. Ladies and gentlemen, this isn’t the races at Ascot or Easter Bonnet Sunday–the no hat rule, if implemented, needs to be applied equally to all sexes !!!~

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      Kirk58

      1 month ago

      Anyone who insists that the person who got an ace needs to buy drinks for the house is IMO insane. I can see them buying for their foursome perhaps but that’s it, no more. We had a guy last year get an ace in our league and he wanted to buy a round for the entire league. We all knew 2 things, first it is a ridiculous tradition, second that it would have been a pretty good financial hit to him (probably would have been a $400/500 bar tab). We all told him it was not necessary, if he wanted he could get a drink for his playing partners but no more were required, expected or wanted. The league also had a special trophy made for him later on that season to commemorate first league ace. Last point, I’m one of those who think the player getting the ace should be receiving drinks, not buying them.

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      Mike

      1 month ago

      If I got an ace I’d buy my foursome some Gatorades or a beer. End of story.

      Rich E

      1 month ago

      All of these are spot ON. True T boxes should be determined by your average score and the T boxes matched to a certain range of 18 hole scores. Many of the Arizona courses do it that way and some of the astute rangers will watch for a few holes and ‘assign’ you to a certain T box , speeds up the game and make it more enjoyable for ALL. Great write up .

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      Jeff Taverna

      1 month ago

      I completely agree on ending stroke play as a default. Match play (for 2 persons or doubles teams) or game of 9s or some version for 3 players is much more fun and entertaining. You don’t lose a round on a single bad hole, Women and Men get handicapped via tee boxes and can play relatively uncomplicated. My G/F and I frequently play match play for our rounds together and it is much more entertaining for us.

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      Gregg McKinney

      1 month ago

      Add hitting balls out of a fairway divot either filled or not filled. Should be ground under repair and a grip-length drop.

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      Luigi T

      1 month ago

      This, I agree with!

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      Mike

      1 month ago

      I agree with a few of these. The hole in one should be reverse. You get a hole in one drinks and a ride home should be the celebration not debt.
      As for the tee decks, I saw that a club went by scoring not handicap. You shoot 100+ on average per round. You are at the front tees. 90-100 per round ok you can start they next block back. 85 or less head to the back Tees. No more gender tees. Would help improve pace of play.

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      Larry

      1 month ago

      Sorry- do not agree with 3&5. It is part of what makes our great sport so special. Wear your hat and cargo shorts when you go fishing! Our society is losing all decorum

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      david price

      1 month ago

      As to the cheating teams in charity outings getting the prizes, I fully concur. Most of the charity outings I go to announce upfront to everyone that the lowest scoring team will be disqualified, for cheating (even though the word “cheating” isn’t mentioned. Imagine, you are the cheaters. How much do we cheat now? Huumm, if we cheat too much, we are disqualified, and if we don’t cheat enough, we won’t win. The winning scores will come back to reality. At least in my experience, they have.

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      Mat

      1 month ago

      First of all I spot AI writing.
      Secondly: Being specific about dresscode seems necessary, because some men even seem to struggle with the thought of taking their hats off indoors :)

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      Patrick Patterson

      1 month ago

      4 hours 15 min normal round of golf stop taking so many practice swings HIT the ball 3 hours is easily doable

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      Dr Tee

      1 month ago

      My observation is that considerable slow play is most commonly related to golfers overestimating their skills and using the wrong set of tees. If the club professionals and starters would be empowered to help golfers or even mandate choice of tee by handicap, typical scores or 7-iron distance, pace of play would be immediately be improved. So, some of this is on the course management, not just the golfers. Really-how often have you seen occasional golfers playing from the tips, waiting until the next group is 375 yards out and then bunting the ball 175—a LOT !!! This then quickly translates out to one or more open holes ahead and backing up the entire course.
      A second factor is two players sharing a cart (and of course both being charged a cart fee, which makes no sense-the cart doesn’t know if there are one or two riders) and “intelligent” driving. A single person in a cart can drive to his or her ball and play ready golf promptly, rather than a second player in the cart who sits planted on their dead ass watching the other rider hit a shot or two before proceeding to their own ball. I frequently play a late afternoon round in a twosome. Invariably the round is quicker if we each ride in separate carts rather than waiting for one another to hit respective shots while sharing a cart.

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      Thumbdar513

      1 month ago

      Every Weekend, I watch two tour pros, shooting in the 60s, with caddies, and ball spotters, get around in over 5 hours. To ask four weekend warriors, shooting in the upper 80s to low 90s, to get around in under 4 hours is nonsense. Physics, after all.

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      Daren

      4 weeks ago

      Ridiculous comparison, and misinformed at best.

      1) Weekend pros take about 4 hours, not 5.
      2) You’re not playing 7,400-yard courses with fast greens, deep rough, and every putt holed out. You’re a 14–18 handicap on a shorter course who can concede putts.
      3) You can ride a cart, play ready golf, and pick up. Pros can’t.
      4) Pros deal with rulings, crowds, TV, and long walks between holes. You don’t.
      5) Slow pros get fined and penalized strokes. Not exactly a model to copy.

      Bottom line: Pros are slow for reasons that don’t apply to you. They’re not your excuse.

      But I get it. You’re the guy doing 50 in the left lane who doesn’t want to be told how fast to go. I’m telling you anyway, for the poor people stuck behind you.

      How to turn 5 hours into 4:

      Play the right tees.
      Play ready golf.
      +3 before you reach the green? PICK UP.
      No 4-putts. Concede the short ones.
      Can’t see the group ahead? You’re slow.
      Group behind always waiting? You’re slow.

      Pace of play target is 4 hours . Unless you’re physically restricted, there’s no reason why you cant play at that pace.

      Scott Sommer

      1 month ago

      If everyone plays ready golf and tees off from the proper tee box for their skill level under 4 hours is very doable.

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      Mike

      1 month ago

      Agree, 4 hrs 15 min is COMPLETELY doable but 3 hours, on a crowded course (which they usually are up my way) is a fantasy!

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      John G

      1 month ago

      This is my 49th season, so I’ve seen a lot of changes over the years. I concur with all of these.

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      Phil Newcombe

      1 month ago

      A gentleman doesn’t wear a hat indoors. Some exceptions for military uniform. This isn’t a “golf” thing – it’s basic good manners. Every other suggestion I completely agree! 👏

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      Joseph K

      4 weeks ago

      I think it’s the least of “good manners”. Explain why it’s “good manners” other than saying “It just is!” Or “My Dad says so!” It has no practical justification. Bad manners are under-tipping, rudeness to others, etc. Wearing or not wearing a hat is neutral.

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      MVH

      1 month ago

      Another issue I have with the hat rule ( # 3 ) is that 99% of the clubs with this rule allow women to wear hats inside said clubhouse

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      Dave

      1 month ago

      What to call a round and scrambles are spot on.

      I have played 139 9-hole rounds this year. 18 hole rounds that aren’t a scramble? 5. Are my rounds any less because they aren’t 18? Not in my mind.

      I love scramble outings that draw from a hat for the prizes, or have the top 2 scoring teams go to a playoff. It’s amazing how badly the teams that shot -19 play with an audience watching every swing.

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      Pat

      1 month ago

      Brilliant. A playoff for the top teams with everyone watching. I love it. I have seen punks put up ridiculous scores that pros couldn’t have accomplished. If they are that good then prove it to everyone!

      Also, hats. Nobody wants to see your post round sweaty half-bald head. Keep your hat on.

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      Jason S

      1 month ago

      The hole-in-one tradition is the biggest one that needs to die. The player made the accomplishment and they deserve free drinks. Not the other way around. Plus, as you mentioned I don’t drink alcohol. I’m sure as hell not buying everyone something I don’t even buy for myself.
      The one dress code issue I have are t-shirts on the course. I can live with cargo shorts, as long as they’re not all torn up. But t-shirts bug me to no end. Don’t want to tuck in your polo? I’m all good. But at least leave the Slayer concert shirt at home.

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      Alan

      1 month ago

      Spot-on

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      Chad wichmann

      1 month ago

      You are a bit out of touch. Stroke play – other than tournaments is least likely way it’s played everyday at your club. Tee boxes haven’t been called men/women at clubs in a very long time. Dress code has been relaxed at most private clubs for a very long time. Less than 18 holes? Come on man! Although many resorts are making par 3’s and courses less than 18 for golfers who want to play a second more relaxing round. It’s a charity event stop caring about results.

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      Peter

      1 month ago

      Call me whatever you want, but I cannot see the reason to wear a hat inside anywhere.
      Even ladies don’t wear them in church anymore

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      Tim

      1 month ago

      BOoooooooo!

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      Old John

      1 month ago

      Have you seen your hair after 18 sweaty hole??? Hat please!

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      Tyler Silio

      1 month ago

      I agree with the lost. It was my understanding the hole-in-one tradition was to avoid people from lying about scoring one. So that is understandable. But still shouldn’t be a thing these days when beers at the clubhouse are $9 each.

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      Hopp Man

      1 month ago

      I will wear a hat wherever I damn well please. My choice.

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      Scott B

      1 month ago

      Until you visit a bucket list club with a “no hats inside” rule. Their choice…unless “your choice” is to not to play.

      Tito

      1 month ago

      Not at my club you won’t. It’s about respect. The military doesn’t wear hats indoors out of tradition and respect. Neither should we.

      DaVe

      1 month ago

      Have you never seen a bald man with a serious case of hat tan?

      Reply

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