Trademark Wars – Callaway vs. TaylorMade (2014 Edition)
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Trademark Wars – Callaway vs. TaylorMade (2014 Edition)

Trademark Wars – Callaway vs. TaylorMade (2014 Edition)

Written By: Tony Covey

The annual war of words, nay,the annual war for words between Callaway and TaylorMade has resumed. And no, this isn’t a repeat from last July.

If you’ve got a few minutes for a brief history lesson, I suggest you check out previous stories on the National Advertising Division’s (NAD) ruling on Callaway’s marketing of the RAZR Fit Extreme as the Longest Driver in Golf, as well as last season’s dueling Trademark claims on SLIDER (Callaway) and SLDR (TaylorMade).

This latest chapter begins with TaylorMade and Callaway filing Trademark applications for “XR” all of seven days apart.

In the interest of sweating the details, it should be pointed out that TaylorMade was actually the first to submit its filing. I don’t mean to imply that TaylorMade is in the right here, only that it was first to pull the trigger.

As I often do when these type of situations arise, I will now pause a moment for anyone who seriously wants to argue coincidence.

Anybody?

One of these companies is quite obviously screwing with the other.

Never mind who’s on first, who’s on top?

TaylorMade Screwing with Callaway?

callaway-xr-logoCallaway’s filing has a logo, and it’s worth mentioning that TaylorMade’s filing doesn’t. This proves absolutely nothing, but could suggest that when Callaway filed, they did so with actual intent.

Given that TaylorMade has just announced R15 and AeroBurner, it’s unlikely the company has any short to mid-term plans for anything called XR, while for Callaway, XR is next-in-the-pipeline, coming soon, kind of stuff.

I can’t state this as 100% indisputable fact, but I’ve heard that Callaway has…or maybe had every intent of calling the early 2015 successor to X2 Hot the Callaway XR.

If I have reason to believe that the next Callaway driver is going to be called XR, then it’s plenty reasonable to assume that TaylorMade knows it too. Why not try and beat Callaway to the punch…at least as far as the US Trademark office is concerned?

callaway-xr-app

Is TaylorMade simply trying to take advantage of what may be a later-than-it-should-have-been filing from Callaway?

It’s not hard to make a compelling argument that this is a case of TaylorMade trying to complicate things for its #1 rival, and perhaps force it to spend a little extra money in the process.

I could also argue that if these Trademark shenanigans actually delay the release of another Callaway driver or two, then TaylorMade might actually be doing Callaway a favor, but let’s save that one for another day.

Callaway Screwing with TaylorMade?

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If we’re going to consider accusing TaylorMade of corporate shenanigans, it’s equally fair to ask exactly what the hell Callaway might be thinking naming a line of clubs XR to begin with.

For those who don’t know, over the last 12 years or so, TaylorMade has produced a handful of non-conforming XR Series drivers for the Japanese market.

TaylorMade may not have included an XR logo in its Trademark filing because, well…they already have one. And since we’re being honest here, allowing for the fact that there are only so many ways to write XR; doesn’t Callaway’s look a bit like what TaylorMade already stamped on its clubs?

TMaG-XR

While TaylorMade’s XR isn’t as entrenched in our relatively mainstream consciousness as its R-Series (or Burner Series for that matter), from an apples to apples perspective, a Callaway XR driver wouldn’t be wholly dissimilar to something called a TaylorMade Legacy.

With a near limitless pool of potential product names to skim from, would Callaway seriously go with something that TaylorMade has already used?

At a time when Callaway is trying to differentiate the rest of the industry, recycling a name (even one that’s not particularly well-known) from its #1 competitor doesn’t make much sense either.

If the possibility that TaylorMade is screwing with Callaway is unsavory, the possibility that Callaway might be screwing with TaylorMade is just confusing.

TaylorMade-XR-app

No Comment

I reached out to representatives from both companies and both succinctly declined to comment for the record.

What I take from that is a likelihood that legal departments are probably already involved, and are likely exchanging threating letters on the regular.

Believe me when I tell you that legal departments, and these two in particular, absolutely thrive on sending letters.

These sort of disputes are far from uncommon in the golf industry, but anecdotal evidence suggests that they’re popping up more frequently between Callaway and TaylorMade.

How This Ends

We’ll have to wait to see how this plays out. My guess is that Callaway releases an XR Driver (or two or three) in the spring, but it’s probably going to take some behind the scenes horsetrading (the kind of stuff we’ll never hear about) to make any Trademark problems go away.

This latest clash speaks not only to the competitive nature of both companies, but also reaffirms everything we’ve learned over the last two years; at corporate level, these two really don’t like each other very much.

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      chris

      9 years ago

      i agree totally. taylormade is putting out pure garbage clubs period. has anyone hit the new r15 driver ? it actually looks like it belongs in walmart or kmart. it is total junk. sets up terrible, i can’t beleive this is what taylormade comes out with. speedblade irons ? junk. rocketbladez ?? jetspeed ?? aeroburner ?? this is so sad for the golf business, it is truly ruined. every store i’ve been to in the last year is down 40-50 percent, many closing. taylormade is killing golf

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      JEM

      9 years ago

      I have no dog in the fight, but I feel like there is a lot of experienced (and frustrated) golf industry folks here who don’t like TaylorMade. Bowing to their experience, if I’m going to spend $800-$1000 on a new set of irons or $500 on a new driver, who can I buy from that will give me a quality product that’s worth those rather hefty amounts? I’ve got an idea from what I’ve read above who a lot of you consider the worst, but who is the best? If I’m going to spend that kind of money, I want the best quality I can get. And don’t tell me try them all and use what I like best. That’s really not an option. I can try a few, but just won’t be able to do the legwork to try them all. My current clubs are mostly Pings, and before that I played Adams. Loved them both, but want to get the best bang for my buck in new purchases.

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      Regis

      9 years ago

      Opinions are like sphincters. Everybody has one. I’ve been playing 50 years and gamed every brand. I’ve been doing my own club work for about 20 years. Don’t get married to one brand. You may play one brand irons, another driver another fairways, wedges etc. With irons figure out which best fits your game . Are you interested in forged? I’d recommend Mizuno. Steel or graphite shafts in non-forged irons? What level are you shooting for? Game improvement? Super Game improvement? As far as I am concerned all major brands make quality products. A serious contender that is a little off the front pages is Tour Edge. With the driver, and fairways and to some extent the hybrids the biggest factor is the shaft and that is a subject all over the map. I guess I’m rambling but there is no simple answer. Best advice is take your time, read the reviews and demo the clubs that seem to fit your expectations. Then decide if you want to start getting involved in upgrading from the stock shafts. In a long winded answer to your question IMHO there is no real difference in the quality of one manufacturer’s equipment versus another.

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      pbk

      9 years ago

      Ha ha best comment ever jonny b taylormade got Rons wife with no lube I do believe

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      Jonny B.

      9 years ago

      Sounds like you guys need to just play some golf. Cold winter getting to you? When’s the last time you hit the course? Too much time to sit back and have comment wars on the internet about a bunch of crap that you really are taking too personally. Did Taylormade bang your wife, Ron? Just find some equipment that works for you and get over the rest – who cares if the masses are duped by some genius marketing? I don’t.

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      JIM WRIGHT, PGA

      9 years ago

      Well, I am glad I got a good discussion going on about clubs. Just a quick history on me. I have been in the golf business for over 45 years in one way or the other and doing club repair for that long. I worked at the Original Las Vegas Discount Golf & Tennis, a brick and mortar store. We shipped over $3 million of product all over the world. I was the shop foreman and did all the repairs for the business. I did work for a lot of celebrities, sports figures and such. I did Hogan warranty work along with Wilson. If some of you remember the big yellow ads in Golf Digest, that was Las Vegas Golf & Tennis. I would receive cartons of boxes from Power Built and shafts from Aldila and would pull shaft, reweight, whip and sell. I did over 100 per day along with the other stuff. Then TM came out with the Pittsburgh Persimmon, I know you all remember that in 1979. Up until just a couple of years ago, TM used weight plugs down the hosel. So if you were reshafting, you had to reweight the club. Then the bubble shaft, a concept that Hogan came out earlier with steel. TM has always had a marketing gimmick. However, all the clubs built today are good, it is just the shafts suck. However, you can try a Demo club and hit it great and when you get yours, the shaft is totally different, feels different, probably was put in a different way, the wrappings are different, whatever. That is why with any club you get fit with now, you have to try them and if it is good, say, I want that one, not some other club off the rack. There is no standard in the industry for graphite shafts, some stiffs feel weak, some regulars feel stiff, some TM M shafts feel pretty stiff, it all depends. I was fitted for Diamana Blue + for all my clubs, driver, 3 metal, 17 degree and 21 degree hybrid. The fitting shaft felt good and the numbers were good on Foresight. When I got my clubs, they all sucked, had about 11 degrees of torque and were like a fly rod. I had to call Titleist back up and tell them what I wanted and now, they are great. Ping irons are the only ones still made in AZ except their metal woods are made abroad. There is no discount to Ping, they stand firm. They had secret shoppers go around to their accounts and if any discount was offered, whether it be a sleeve of balls or a free lesson for the purchase of Pings, their account was pulled. Edwin Watts had a bunch of accounts pulled for a while. They even pulled Baltrusrol’s Account, they got it back. They pulled over 600 accounts. They do special things for the military that I can’t divulge, not discounts, but contributions. Sometimes Ping will give coupons out for their discounts. Now we have the ex head of TM in charge of Callaway, I am sure they are great clubs, but, the pipeline for inventory is FULL. Golfers will wait 6 months to 12 months to get $100 – $200 off of the next, best, greatest club down the pike. Well, they have done about all they can do with COR and MOI, now it is just marketing. A 15-30 handicapper is not going to see any difference in shafts, he needs lessons. TM makes good stuff, don’t get me wrong. I had a Rocketbalz 3 metal (had to send it back 3 times for the correct shaft and the loft was wrong) but, I had to reshaft that myself with a Grafaloy Red Speed Coat, great club. I also had to do that with a 22 degree hybrid. The big thing is getting the correct shaft and they are all different, even the same ones. Everyone makes good clubs now it is just preference, like Chevrolet, Buick, or Ford. Even the box sets are good now, especially for beginners for high handicappers. That is all I have to say about this. This has been a good discussion. Thanks

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      RON

      9 years ago

      Jon I do beleive yr right abt them having a mandate abt their shaft emblems being the same as retail and I know Titleist puts fake Diamana shafts in their off the rack drivers as well as other companies with fake Fujikura shafts but those fake shafts other companies put in their woods are of a much better quality than the fakes that TM puts in theirs and you can always order real deal shafts with no upcharge with these other companies or very little upcharge depending on the shaft. But TM charges you full price fr an after market shaft of yr choice. The point Im making is Im not saying TM has to put in an exotic shaft like a Diamana fr instance and not charge alittle extra I understand that but their stock shafts be similiar to the quality of an average Aldila shaft. What they give the public in their drivers now is utterly pathetic quality wise I mean really bad, Ill take a fake diamana titleist shaft any day of the week than those things they put in TMs drivers. But yet their irons are made of a different metal than the ones used on tour I mean they are the same exact design shape wise as the pros tour issues yes but the material offset of the new TM tour preferred irons that Keymer used to win the Open with are not the same as the retail ones and I know this fr a fact not to mention their R9 tour irons were obviuosly different with the B heads being alot softer than the TP R9 irons and yet they put TP on the retail irons to fool the public into thinking its the same TP irons on tour . Sure other companies may have some one offs but 99 percent of the ping , ap2, wilson staff, mizuno, nike, Srixon etc. are all the same retail and tour issue except the iron heads on tour are sorted out fr weight purposes thats all so they can get the heavy heads and put certain grinds on em and so they dont need to use hozel weights but its still the same forging all the other companies use on tour that joe public can get in his pro shop. Yes yr right Adams, Nike and Cleveland have had some special tour only heads in the past but they make the public a quality product now where the pros dont need something different unless that 1 percent wants a different shaped head, but TM keeps doing it year after year and they never give the public a quality forged iron to this day.

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      Jon

      9 years ago

      As far as the R9 irons go the B and C (2mm offset) were made out of 8620 carbon steel where as the standard TP irons were stainless steel so they will feel softer without a doubt. Ping is a different story all together where there is really no difference between their tour and retail equipment. I have not really seen a true prototype club from Ping in many years until the new Glide prototype wedges hit the tour this fall. Anything is possible with Ping meaning that almost everything their staff has you can get through the WRX Dept for example the fully milled 303 SS Putters that some of you may have seen are available if you want to spend the money. With Titleist they no longer are using made for shafts in their stock offerings and haven’t since I believe the 910 series drivers with the “Made For Titleist” Diamana’s. You have to remember that they are ordering massive quantities of these shafts so the cost are significantly lower for the OEM. When you look at TM you pay a $100 extra for the TP version of the driver which will put it in the same price range as the 915 and Big Bertha Alpha driver with that you have an option of 20+ aftermarket shafts without the TM graphics at no upcharge including the new retail Rogue shaft not the limited Rogue from Aldila that goes for $285. Do I think the non TP shafts are junk? Maybe but you have to remember these shafts are made for the masses and they do give the general public cheaper option to get into one of their products. I have had the chance to hit the new R15 line and I can tell you that it is a great product and will sell well for them.

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      Jon

      9 years ago

      Also to the point of TMAG charging full price for an upgrade shaft that is completely false and I know this for a fact 1000% for that matter. You can go on their site and look at the custom shaft matrix and you will clearly see they are not hitting you full boat on ugrade shafts. Some are more than others but they are not charging full aftermarket price. With the SLDR the Tour Blue and Green were $100 upcharge which I believe is cheaper than what Ping charges for the same shaft. In the R15 and Aero Burner lines these shafts no longer carry an upcharge.

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      RON

      9 years ago

      Jon yr telling me I dont have any facts abt this company, loooool, first of all knock it off you have no idea who I am, besides you just read Jim Wrights article who obviously dealt with em, and he is alot more qualified to know how this company works than you ever will. Now your probably a smart and nice guy for all I know, who am I to judge I dont know you, but TM makes and has more tour only clubs fr there signed pros than any company put together, that just alone makes em not an authentic golf equipment company . Even Nike now fr petes sake gives the public the real deal clubs to the public. TM wedges are even different I had a guy who had one and it felt so much more softer than their retail ones. The only thing TM gives the public that are used on tour are the driver and fairway woods heads and even those on tour are hotmelted to feel and play different than the ones the public get, Note the screw on the SLDR on the bottom toe area of the clubs on tour so the pros can add their hotmelt to change the performance and feel of the driver, note the retail ones dont have the screw to get access for the Joe public to do the same thing. I can go on and on about their secret clubs fr the pga guys but you will never get the hint.

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      Jon

      9 years ago

      Ron, I agree with you that there are a lot of prototypes out there on the market from Taylormade and they do cater to their PGA Staff and their needs. All the stuff they have on tour is pretty much the same thing as the average Joe can find on the retail shelf but heads are hand picked and tested to make sure that they conform and they do have different toe plates they use so they can easily access the port on the sole for hotmelt that is added per the players request, but like I have said above I don’t dispute there are prototypes out there and I would say one of the more common ones out there right now would be the Tour Jetspeed fairway woods that are very popular among their staff. I even have a 10.5* Mini Driver I use which has a different COG due to the long hosel vs the retail Mini’s. If your grip is companies that pump out tons of prototypes and such for their staff then all OEM’s are guilty of that, even Adams put out as much if not more than TMAG before they were bought out by TMAG and after that much of the R&D for Adams went away. Titleist is another that has pumped out proto’s in the past. As far as shafts go TMAG has a mandate that there staff use shafts that have their graphics on it and yes that is for marketing purposes is that lying to the public? Do you think there are tons of different iron prototypes out there from TMAG I don’t thin there is and the only one off irons I have seen in a while was a set used by Camillo Villegas and one by Mike Weir all the others were basically variations of offset and instead of using stainless they were made of 8620 carbon steel. So to me it sounds like your problem with them is their R&D and your lack of access to them.

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      Frobar

      9 years ago

      I agree – nice bit of drama here

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      Simon ACY

      9 years ago

      I haven’t enjoyed a comments thread so much in years! Thanks everyone who has contributed so far.

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      Dave

      9 years ago

      Golf for me is a hobby, buy and try, take care of it and sell it, I have one Taylormade club that I like, (Ghost Corza tour putter,) Having said that my beef is with the PGA value guide and the PGA, you take a beating to buy the top brands new and at trade in time look out. I vote with my disposable income for golf clubs and to me Callaway, Tileist and Ping are making way better equipment than Taylormade, Dont even mention NIKE, that is really a buy the players format, Honestly I think it is watching all those paid for Pro’s swing that stuff when you know they could play with just about anything they wanted to. Bring back Persimmon and Hickory so we can get Monsanto and DuPont in on the GMO’s for better material, Ha.Ha, other wise just don’t buy it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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      RON

      9 years ago

      Jon yr so lost who knows and who cares what the r15 comes with its not even out yet , Im talking abt what they have always done before , I know qualified people and pros who dealt with this company and if you think fr one sec that I dont know what this co. does then its not worth me replying to you it really aint, obviuosly you must work fr TM to defend em like that. If you think THE R15 OR WHATEVER YOU CALL IT IS COMMING OUT WITH AUTHENTIC 300 DOLLAR SHAFTS WITH NO UPCHARGE FROM THIS CO. OF ALL COMPANIES THEN YR BRAINWASHED AND LIVING IN A DREAM WORLD.

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      Jon

      9 years ago

      Ron, First off I don’t work for TMAG and 2nd I can tell you for 100% certainty that the TP versions in both the R15 and Aero Burner will have over 20+ aftermarket shafts (YES! Real aftermarket.) available at no upcharge. You are correct the lines are not out yet but I have seen all the PP slides for both lines which includes a list of their new custom shaft matrix for 2015. You may have some bone to pick with TMAG for whatever reason but to trash a company without facts to back it up is pretty lame. Do your homework first then have your tantrum.

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      Jon

      9 years ago

      Ron, You should really do some research before you post your comments about TMAG and their products. If you had you would know that the TP versions in both the new R15 and Aero Burner lines give you over 20 top quality aftermarket shafts at no upscharge including Aldila Rogue Silver/Black, Tour Blue/Green, and the new Matrix line of shafts among others all for the same price as the Titleist 915 and Callaway’s new Alpha drivers. You have no fight in that ring and if thats all you have to rant over then please go hide yourself in the depths of the web.

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      COrky

      9 years ago

      Taylor Made’s business model is waning, consumers have had enough, retailers have had enough……… the R15 will bomb……

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      RON

      9 years ago

      Jim I try to tell these bozos in here the same thing abt this advertising company because thats really what they are, there certainly not an authentic golf co. with all the different iron heads and driver shafts that are not sold to the public with their clubs, but the people in here are brainwashed by their advertising and by watching the tour pros with their stuff which isnt the same as retail that they accually think and beleive that TM is the king of golf lol , and its because they pay every Tom , Dick and Sergio out there to use their NAME , NOT THEIR CLUBS to fool these jack asses, and they still try to defend them lol rolling my eyes. Your right its a 6 dollar shit can thin walled shaft in their drivers and then they paint it to match the ones on tour and then FOOL the public into thinking its the same thing, thats not business thats out right lying, they must be laughing all the way to the bank gauging and totaly misleading the public. The government and media brainwashes the public with BS news and this advertising company is no different. Any time a company charges 400 fr a driver it DAM WELL SHOULD COME WITH A 300 DOLLAR SHAFT because the heads are so cheap to mass produce.

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      CArlos

      9 years ago

      I don’t get it, doesn’t every MFG do this? I know my Titleist 910H has a “made for” Diamana ‘Ilima shaft, that is painted to look like the real deal. How is this any different?

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      Regis

      9 years ago

      Jim. I’ve learned from this site that TMAG has created a lot of hatred in the retail golf community because of their marketing. That being said, it add no credibility to the bashing when the bashers make statements that have more basis in fact then TMAG’s marketing claims. A good number of club pro shops are Titelist staff members. They get their gear for free and to a large extent sell predominately Titleist out of their pro shops. That’s fine. That’s marketing. The reason Dick’s hired pro shops in the first place was so that they could sell Ping and Titleist which require pro presence. So I always felt that blaming TMAG for those firings is a bit hypocritical. Finally your reference to Edwin Watts “seeing the handwriting on the wall” and bailing is misplaced. If you review the filings from the Chapter 11 file , EW started
      ( ironically) as an on course pro shop. They expanded to 90 stores and eventually filed because they couldn’t make ends meet. Their reason was a “decrease in consumer spending and dwindling participation in the sport”. They had $40.5 million in secured debt and the assets sold at auction to a competitor. Unsecured creditors got like 3 cents on the dollar. So how is this any different to the demise of Circuit City or Crazy Eddies, who to my knowledge didn’t sell golf clubs?

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      JIM WRIGHT, PGA

      9 years ago

      Someone is correct here. I have dealt with TM for years when they came out with the 300 series. I was a GM/Head Pro at a GA State Park Golf Course and they sent me a nice Demo set of metals, drivier, 3 metals, different shafts, lofts, 300, 310, 320. After about 6 months, golfers demoed the clubs, beat them to hell, you know the sky marks on top and such, then TM sent me an invoice for $150 per club with new clubs coming. I told them I didn’t want the old ones, pick them up, They said I could sell them for $175-$200 and make a profit. I told them and the rep about the condition and they didn’t care. I finally called the HQ of TM and said pick up your crap or it will be on the street, I am not paying for it. TM has done this every year since at least 2000. New products every 6 months, now Callaway is doing the same thing. I have always said that companies put a $6 shaft in the club with the graphics of the after market shaft. There is no way a OEM can sell a club for $399 with a $300 shaft and make a profit. TM has given drivers to all the PGA Professional National Championship qualifiers so they will get it in their hands. A lot are Titleist Staff Members and just sell or give away the TM driver. TM pays all their pros a hand full. We have one great PGA club pro that is on TM staff and he has made over $100K each year form those whores. Dicks sporting goods ruined the club market with them just carrying TM and Callaway, that is why they bought Golf Gallaxy, for more accounts. Then Dick’s fires over 500 PGA Pros that gave them credibility. Now, Dicks is stuck with 3 year old inventory and nothing new can come in to other outlets. At least Edwin Watts saw the handwriting on the wall and bailed and have new owners that seem to know what they are doing. This is a lot of info but I have more to discuss later. I have been in the club business for over 40 years and have seen a lot of changes, good and bad, and right now, we are in a bad situation. Good thing I just teach now and make recommendations to my students for clubs.

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      Jonny B.

      9 years ago

      What a thread of comments we have going here. Everyone is a genius know it all with balls the size of Epcot here on the Internet. For the record Ron and PBK you both sound like rambling buffoons.

      Taylormade gets a lot of flack, rightfully so, but they have really – for years now – made some quality clubs and led the equipment industry not only in sales but in innovation. Without Taylormade, we the people would be paying a lot more for good clubs than we do now. I’ll never forget the first time I hit my buddy’s Rocketballz 3 wood. You can’t dispute that was one smoking fairway wood.

      And for the record Callaway has quickly become TM 2.0…

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      RON

      9 years ago

      pbk I hold a 1 handicapp wong my club champ 4 times , lets see qualified fr second stage of US open and missed open qualifying cut by only 2 shots, you couldnt carry my jock strap on a course pbk. I could care less what you gys in here buy Im simply letting the facts out about this advertising company cuzz its certainly not a golf company , for the simple reason is their clubs on tour are all different. If you think TM is king then why 95 percent of top tournaments all you see is Titleist , my last tourny I looked into a lot of peoples backs after my round and didnt see one set of TM irons and only saw 2 bags with a TM driver in it, SOME KING OF CLUBS. This company HAS TO PAY all the pros on tour to use their shit, they even approached my freind who was a top local am player and GAVE him free stuff just to get their whoring name out there in the top am ranks. pbk by yr response you sound like an immature kid blowing his horn and couldnt tell if yr hitting cheap forged irons if it slapped you in the face because you have no feel fr what is quality or not. Thats why the pros on tour demand a totally different made TM iron which would cost TM too much money to mass produce fr the gullable lost souls like yrself, while all the other companies give you the real deal in irons such as ping , titleist srixon wilson mizuno adams etc.

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      Regis

      9 years ago

      I studied Patent and Trademark law in law school and actually handled a few trademark infringement cases while practicing. I have a basic understanding of it but that’s all. A lot turns on whether the product or modification is unique. But to all you experts and Taylor Made bashers out there think about this. Where would we be now if TaylorMade had obtained an exclusive patent or trademark on the metal wood which they first successfully introduced in their Pittsburgh Persimmon clubs in 1979? YOWZA

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      Foz

      9 years ago

      Hey, I have a great idea…….this Ron character should take Dan Jenkins’ place and write satires for Golf Digest.

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      markb

      9 years ago

      They WOULD at least be funnier and more timely.

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      pbk

      9 years ago

      Oh and hey Ron since you have been into golf since 1982 wooooooooooooo and know so much. How about I go to Walmart or Target and pick the cheapest poorest made set of men’s women’s jr. Clubs on the rack your choice and you can you use what ever brand you think is “not cheap” hell I will even let you go on your favorite tour van and get custom built but guess what I will still wax your @ss up and down the course ..k?

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      pbk

      9 years ago

      You know Ron your a pretty funny guy. Is anyone forcing you to buy taylormades so called oh wait Rons claimed “cheap irons” no so why do you care what other people buy and use unless your privately funding people??..In that case you can buy all my new sweet taylormade gear this year. Oh wait you will be on tour soon riiiiiight .Heres three facts you need to know ron…Let’s face it Ron your opinion really doesn’t matter, taylormade is king no matter what you say or claim to know and Ronnie boy my friend the third you will always be a HACK!

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      RON

      9 years ago

      Rant away Let the ranted and raving on me begin.

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      RON

      9 years ago

      pbk I was into golf and clubs since 1982, I think Ive been around to know whats going on, if you cant see the crap they pull yr living in a box, the one thing Ill give em is they have very good research and developement, they were the first ones to come out with the metal headed drivers back in mid 80s where Curtis Strange used to almost win the Masters that year. Soon after that it was Willie Wood that started to use it during that time. But now their getting in their own way with too much stuff after all they got 75 percent of the tour to pay and we the people are paying the price with cheap irons , cheap shafted drivers and then they fool you by making em the same paint scheme as the ones on tour to look identical which their obviuosly not the same shaft. I saw a TM driver one time which looked to have a real fujikura shaft on an r7 but when I rolled the grip up from the bottom part I saw it say made for TM on it, they hide the TM markings under the grip so people wouldnt see if the shaft was a knockoff made by them, pretty sneaky of em ha. Thats a company you can trust? Their good at inventing new things and also screwing the public, so pbk stick that in yr pipe and smoke it and go hide under a rock or keep making TM richer you sucker.

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      pbk

      9 years ago

      Lmfao this Ron dude is smoking some good shit ….Like seriously Ron you know absolutely nothing about the golf industry and your comments makes absolutely no sense. DO US ALL A FAVOR AND GO HIDE YOURSELF.

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      Eric

      9 years ago

      Lol. Ron you are awesome. Thank you. People that fall for this TM marketing BS are suckers.

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      RON

      9 years ago

      Why cant TM just get the hell out of the golf buz like macgregor, ram, spalding etc all did, their irons are cheap walmart garbage and you cant buy a driver from them without a cheap ingrade shaft, and if you want a DECENT shaft they charge you 600 or so fr the driver, their ruining the golf business and golf stores with too much shit. They already ruined a fine company like Adams who were up and comming giving the public quality stuff and quality shafts with their drivers, something TM is too cheap to do because of all the advertising and pga pro signings. I whish someone would buy em out or watch them go under because they dont belong in the golf buz. Now they are making Callaway do the same thing, TM is a cancer to this business. Who cares abt these silly letter trademark wars its all BS advertising anyway. The new R15 is the same driver Mizuno had out god knows how long ago. Any company that gives you cheaply made irons to the public shouldnt be in the oem golf buz period.

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      markb

      9 years ago

      aaah, there it is, my daily ronrant. It’s like mucilax. Now excuse me for a moment while I whish my buz down the drain.

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      golfercraig

      9 years ago

      I’ve decided that “ron” is just a finely executed troll account. There is no possible way someone able to turn a computer on and connect to the internet can be that stupid.

      JIM WRIGHT, PGA

      9 years ago

      I just hit the AeroBurner Demo yesterday, they just received them in shop, and it was a 10.5 deg, reg shaft. I had hip surgery 7 months ago and have hit some balls some and played 4 times in the last 2 weeks. When I hit the club, I had to swing slower because it is a regular shaft and a lot of loft. I have to admit, the ball went high and felt pretty good and solid. I think the industry has to get away from all this adjustability that has been going on. First off, amateurs can’t and don’t know what the settings do and when they get it set up originally for launch angle and spin, they don’t adjust it. I had a RocketBalz three wood that I ordered from TM 13 deg tour with a Fujikura Blur shaft. They sent me a 14.5 stock stock shaft. I sent it back twice and the last time they sent it with a Blur TS, couldn’t hit any of them. I finally pulled the shaft and since I am True Temper certified as PFC, I ordered a Grafalloy Red speed coat and put it in there. That was the best 3 wd I have had in a while. When I signed my contract with Titleist, I sold it on ebay, mistake. I am now looking for a stage two RocketBalz to try again. I will hit the R15 today and see what it is like. I hit the Callaway 815 and it was solid and went really good, although, again, it was a regular shaft. It did have a good feel and sound to it. I also hit the new Heaven Wood, that Callaway came out with again and it is like a four iron, but it goes high, I mean high. So, I think the OEM’s need to go back to the basics and forget about all this adjust ability and confusion. For 95% of the amateurs playing golf, this is not needed and just raises the prices for product. The could sell a lot more new drivers for $249 or even $299 then $399 or $449. They need to concentrate on better fairway woods and hybrids. I really think some amateurs would be better off playing 3 fairway metals along with a 3, 4, 5, 6 hybrid and then some really game improvement higher irons. They have to forget about their ego. When I teach and see a 3 iron in the bag, my first question is “what do you do with that.” They always say, “that is my best club” then when we go out and I see them try to hit it, it sucks, and I tell them to get rid of that and their 4 iron. I give a lot of lessons to a variety of level of golfers and it really amazes me the clubs they have in their bag. All said, I think the clubs and shaft are better this year and they just need to come down in price. Guys are waiting for 6 months knowing that the prices will fall and they can get the same club for $150 or $200 less. Let’s keep this going. I would like to hear from some intelligent golfers out there, which I know most of you are.

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