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#ASKMYGOLFSPY – Driver Fittings
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How important is driver fitting?

A quality driver fitting provides the best opportunity for quantifiable performance improvement. Whether that’s super important or just kinda important is golfer dependent but, short of a comprehensive speed training program, moving from an off-the-rack driver to a properly fitted driver offers the best opportunity to gain significant distance (and improve consistency).

How many clubs should I test in a single session?

As with most fitting questions, the right answer is “it depends.” Most fitters (and particularly fitting chains) like to boast about the number of combinations they offer. Typically, it’s around 50,000. I wouldn’t suggest you try them all.

If we’re talking about a driver fitting, three or four heads is sensible. You might be able to get away with more but a good fitter is going to be able to figure out what type of driver is going to work for you and then start dialing in things like loft, weight settings and shaft specs before you get tired and your swing degrades.

With irons, fatigue will be less of an immediate concern so you may have an opportunity to try a few more options but, again, a good fitter should be able to narrow the field pretty quickly.

If you’re looking for a place to start, take a look at this year’s Most Wanted Driver test to see which clubs to put on your radar.

What questions should I ask during my fitting?
You’ll find plenty of opinions on the right questions to ask during your driver fitting but the most important stuff should be sorted out before you book.

Does the fitter have a launch monitor? Is it a good one? What brands are available (both heads and shafts)? Am I hitting outdoors, into a screen or into a net?

There are other little things that are easily overlooked. Is the hitting bay wide enough that I’m comfortable swinging? Case the joint before you commit.

With that said, I’m more concerned about the questions the fitter asks you. An interview should be part of any fitting process. The fitter should ask why you’re there. What is your objective for the club fitting? What specific improvements are you looking for?

Your fitter should also understand your budget before you get dialed in with something that costs way more than you want to spend.

Ultimately, the fitting process should involve a constant dialog between you and your fitter. If the fitter isn’t asking how things feel, what you think or asking about typical shot patterns versus what you’re showing him, you should probably leave.

One final tip: if possible, stalk your fitter on social media. I’ve encountered more than a few fitters who profess to being brand agnostic but Instagram and Facebook paint a different story. Every fitter has preferences and that’s OK but if you see the same brands, the same head and shaft combinations over and over (and over again), you might want to look elsewhere.

Are there certain qualifications my fitter should have?

Search the interwebs and you’ll find more than a few certified master fitters. While there’s not a central body that polices the credentials, most certified fitters (master or otherwise) have gone through some form of organized training.

The fine print here is that most chains and every OEM that advertises “certified master fitters.” Be aware there’s no universal standard or central office here. Some certified fitters are excellent, some aren’t.

For me, there’s no substitute for experience and knowledge and, while those can be difficult to quantify, I put more stock in reputation and word of mouth than anything that can be pinned to a wall.

What if a fitter isn’t available near me?

I’m constantly surprised that many golfers don’t have easy access to competent local fitters. Then I remember that when people ask me for a recommendation, my particular version of local requires a minimum 3.5-hour drive.

Yeah, I know some guys. Would you rather drive to Toronto or Long Island?

We developed TrueGolfFit as a better alternative to off-the-rack driver buying for golfers who either can’t or don’t want to get fitted. Just about every manufacturer offers a proprietary fitting tool and, when COVID hit, many started offering phone fittings. That remains an option.

I suspect it’s only a matter of time before one of the larger brand-agnostic chains offers an alternative to in-person fittings as well.

My opinion is that an in-person fitting is almost always the best way to go but, when that isn’t possible, your next best options are an online fitting tool or getting fitted by phone. Most of those are free.

What are the three main things I should look for during my fitting?

Ultimately there’s really only one thing that matters. Did the result of the fitting meet your objective?

If the answer is yes, you’re good. If it isn’t, well …

This is exactly the sort of thing that should be part of the dialog with your fitter. If distance is the objective, is there strong evidence that what you were fitted for is longer than with what you walked in the door?

Side note: Always bring your gamers.

That said, it doesn’t hurt to pay attention to the data. Regardless of the overarching objective, I recommend you look for small circles and small numbers. What I mean by that is tight dispersion and consistent results (small standard deviations) should always be part of the conversation.

With an iron fitting, distance should take a back seat. Dispersion remains important but, in a world of jacked lofts, your fitter should be focused on helping you achieve a playable trajectory (the right combination of spin, height and descent angles).

Do I need to worry about jacked numbers on a launch monitor?

I think … or at least I want to believe … that this is less of a problem than it used to be. As launch monitor technology was emerging, some unscrupulous sellers took advantage of settings that allowed them to cook the numbers and gain distance via software.

Whether it’s Foresight, Trackman or most anything else, there are still levers that shady types can pull to show you more than what’s actually there.

It’s an unnerving thought but it’s tough to believe a quality fitter is going to risk his reputation and juice the launch monitor. If you’ve done your research well, you should be just fine.

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      Wilson Player

      2 years ago

      Great advice for all fittings..
      Do your homework on what you are looking for, set the ground rules with your fitter (on both goals and upcharges, costly options/shafts) and talk it through with your fitter.
      I would also recommend mixing things up during the fitting.
      Don’t be afraid to take a break, hit a few irons or get a drink of water to let your body calm down from hitting a driver for an hour straight.

      Also- bring your own golf balls.
      get fitted with the ball you normally play. It makes a difference.

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      I recently had a conversation with an “acquaintance” who bought a set of PXG irons from Club Champion. Certainly good clubs. He was fitted with some Oban shafts. Costly, but with a good reputation. He then was convinced to have his shafts “pured” at $30 per club. One feature of Oban shafts is that they are seamless. presumably without a “spine”.. Maybe the extra $210for pureing is worth it. Maybe the couple hundred extra for the shafts was worth it. The guy today is shooting basically the same scores as before. He is hitting these irons “longer” but if I am hitting a shot from 150 the result is how close to the pin am I. Not what number is on the bottom of the club.. Lie, length and swingweight are critical. It is amazing how little attention is paid to swingweght as it is not adjustable on most clubs. Also keeping constant yardage gaps between clubs. What inspired me to write is that several here have indicated pressure to be upsold. Once you start a fitting you will be charged whether you but or not. Some will waive the fee if you buy. Bottom line if you don’t like the way you are being fit it could be costly.

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      Mike

      2 years ago

      Welcome to the club champion “fitting” model. Had an iron fitting there & probably cuz it was the dead of winter & cool in the studio, guy fitted me w/ senior flex graphite shafts. Fell for the whole “puring” thing also. They never came close to working on the course but luckily I only bought 2 irons & not the whole set. Sold them on eBay at a loss, but my net out-of-pocket spend taught me some valuable lessons.

      I can’t just single out club champion because I’ve had another bad fitting or two at other places. Look, their goal is to sell you stuff, right? But the cost of new clubs & shafts has risen so dramatically that most of us can’t afford to make wrong choices. Buyer beware!

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      bob

      2 years ago

      I was testing drivers at Club Champion recently. I hit the new TM Stealth so hard it ripped right through the screen. The guy wanted me to buy the driver with some upsell shaft and I told him, ‘Nah, I hate that red face and quit trying to upsell me on a shaft I don’t need’.

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      George

      2 years ago

      What was your ball speed, tho? :)

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      Jason

      2 years ago

      Best fitting I had was a no fitting. Picked up a TSi2 off of a friend who didn’t really care for it (I had no driver). Just didn’t “feel” right to me. Went to a fitting and let them know I’m willing to buy a new driver and/or look at shaft options on gamer. Well I couldn’t swing worth a damn. I was so tense nothing came off. Fitter was cool. Said 2 things. No charge for the fitting (would be free if purchased new). Swapped out the shaft to something that helped get a higher launch at no charge. Said to work with this and call me in a month and let me know how its going. The shaft swap was a game changer. I called him and said I’m swinging better but the club feels really good now. Told me to just play and if I want to look at something later in the season let him know.

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      james

      2 years ago

      I went to American golf to test a new driver and they had put shot boost on their GC2 unit whic inflated te driver numbers for me by about 40 yards.

      I never went there again.

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      JasonA

      2 years ago

      Any fitter I have ever been to, whether Big-box, demo day, private has actively wanted to see baseline of what I’m currently using. Anything else is nonsensical as a fit. I may have been fortunate to never see “strange” numbers.

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      Brandon

      2 years ago

      I wasn’t getting fit, just hitting drivers in the bays at PGA super store, but the launch monitor in the Callaway bay was set to be 30mph downwind. Was getting about 40 yards more than usual with a shaft that that shouldn’t be a good fit for me.

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      G Train

      2 years ago

      Got fitted this year for Driver. Tried Rogue, TSi3, Cobra LTD & G425. Surprised at how well I hit that G425. The fitter suggested it (wasn’t even on my radar). He knew what I needed and did me a solid. Definitely get fitted!!!
      I got fitted at Golf Galaxy in Downers Grove,Illinois
      Thank you John G. I’ll be back for irons soon. .

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      MikeB

      2 years ago

      In the case of jacked numbers on a monitor, it is definitely not a fallacy. Few years ago at the PGA Show demo day, the year TM had a huge tent and free beer, their numbers were insanely high. I know this because an acquaintance of mine, good friends buddy, with whom I played golf with a few times, had insane for him numbers. He couldn’t hit 300 out of a moving truck,, on a runway,, downwind, and every number they gave him was 300+. Pure BS!

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      Brad S.

      2 years ago

      Also, beware the upsale push. From what I’ve seen online Club Champion is really notorious, and that fits with my personal experience. I had a driver fitting there and they put me in a Project X Hzrdous Blue. Of course it was the $500 special edition flag one. Never mentioned I could order an identical shaft without the graphics for half the price. Thankfully, I looked the shaft up online when I got home and discovered this, I even called Project x who confirmed it. I canceled the order and have never been back. Do your homework.

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      Mike

      2 years ago

      That wasn’t an unusual experience, that’s the club champion business model. Amazing that they can convince 20 handicappers to buy a brand new driver and a $400 aftermarket shaft. Let’s not forget puring & other upgrades. If you’re a really good player, then this experience may be worthwhile. But I’d love to see how many mediocre golfers still have their club champion equipment 2 years later.

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      Max R

      2 years ago

      Interesting information on Club Champion. As TXG has been bought my CC, hopefully they will be able to maintain their former integrity while expanding their services here in the Great White North.

      Steve S

      2 years ago

      Before a fitting get to someone or someplace(PGA Superstore) where you can hit balls without a fitter(PGA SS has bays that you can rent for $15 for a half hour) and record some data. Always use the ball you play on the course. Try to get fit out doors. Bottom line for me…if I don’t see a 10% improvement in distance and accuracy, I’m not buying….

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      ComeOnSense

      2 years ago

      My issue with fitting format ( 1 fitting section) is that you will be fitted with the swing you have that particular day, and you end up with the wrong Driver. Do you see how many of you get fitted and once your new toy arrives and you can’t hit it?
      Well, its cause your swing today is diferent that the day you got fitted. Think about the last few times you played, did you hit the Driver the same on all the rounds? Or 1 day you were hooking it, the next round hitting it low,then next round blocking to the right or slicing etc etc. If you were to get fitted in one of those days, you’d end up with a total diferent Driver or shaft.

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      JasonA

      2 years ago

      Advice I have heard multiple times is “Only get fit when you are swinging well”. Do not try fix a problem with equipment. This should optimize your chances of getting equipment that complements & helps groove your desirable swing traits

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      Dennis Beach

      2 years ago

      Do not get hung up on distance as a final decision maker. Accuracy plays a big part. Who wants a driver going 270, but you’ll be in the trees every drive. I tried 4 drivers at my fitting, had a driver in mind going in, using my gamer ball. So, I did end up with the driver I had in mind, but, it was not the longest, but the straightest of the bunch, and it really felt good when struck. Had good distance, but was straighter than the other three. I purchased a Ping g410 SFT, and tried Callaway, TaylorMade, and Tour Edge. The TM Sim was the longest, pretty straight, but I could not get past the silver bling on the club head. Did not have one in black. Feel was pretty good, but the Ping just felt better. My fitter was a young fellow in his 20’s, but was very knowledgable of the equipment, shafts, talked about trajectory height, distance offline, which impresed me. He was constantly asking me what I thought of each club, given I could see stats on the simulator screen. He also thought the Ping was my best choice, given my swing speed(80 mph), though he did push the Callaway. Not sorry I bought the Ping. Spend a lot of time in the fairway.

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      Jim Shaw

      2 years ago

      Good morning, happy masters week!! I have an 8 year old set of Miura’s, I am currently saftisfied with them however I feel I need to get fitted for new shafts at a minimum. Is it a good option to get fitted for proper shafts and get my Miura’s refurbished?

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      Matty

      2 years ago

      Is the place that would clean the Miura’s also be the place you’d get fitted for shafts? If so, then you may want to bring them in on the conversation. If you trust them, you may do either or both based on the outcome of their guidance.

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      James

      2 years ago

      I believe bringing your gamer helps mitigate the problem of juiced results. You get to lay down a baseline and then compare. 1) it’s hard to adjust settings while you’re watching and 2) if your trusty driver is all of the sudden giving you crazy distance, you know something is up.

      I find that a big issue is hitting multiple drives in a row, gets me in a groove and my numbers get better regardless of the driver. On the course, you go 15 minutes or more between swings and you get one bite at the apple. That’s the real test, can I step up “cold” and stripe one when it counts.

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      Joel Woodruff

      2 years ago

      What are your thoughts on demo days from an individual manufacturer? Being that fitters are located a great distance, often a brand will host a demo day near me. I would imagine that one may not receive the best option for their swing but at least they may receive the benefit of getting fit from an experienced fitter.that is able to digest the data from the launch monitor and produce their best option for you. I would anticipate that this may be a better option than at an off the rack store with a box store employee aiding in the fitting-even if they have a launch monitor. Are todays equipment similar enough to be able to be fit by one company and receive beneficial results from gamer equipment that is say 5 years old?

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      David

      2 years ago

      I would say any semblance of a fitting is better than off the rack, so absolutely take advantage of a demo day. Besides, they are often free, so why not. I spent last year throughout the season taking advantage of any free fitting or demo day I could near me, and I learned a lot about different equipment, components, and my own swing tendencies. NO substitute for the experience and knowledge I was able to get. Armed with these experiences, I completed two iron fittings, one at Golf TEC and one with PXG this past winter and purchased my new irons. Cannot wait for it to get nice enough to really try them outside, but early feedback playing on simulators is positive.

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      Gabriel

      2 years ago

      Demo day is often quite good honestly, yes they will sell you product from their own company, no you cannot test another brand but most major will have something very good for you, will it be the absolute best for you, probably no,t will it be within 10% margin, probably. Most brand have at least 3 different drivers head, with 3-4 different shaft to make it work for you… Last time I tested / got fitted, I could have ended up with a titleist tsi3, g425max, stealth + cobra or callaway rogue… Number were all similar, some with more distance, other with better dispersion…Oh wait its all 5 major OEM…. I took a g425 because it was the most forgiving for me for bad strike. Longuest one was the titleist. Will I play better with the g425 vs the Titleist, I hope so but I wouldnt bet more than 20$ on it… In the end, on demo day, if you are a serious buyer, the guiy from the OEM will fit you the best he can cause in 2-3-5 years if you were satisfied you will come back and buy another one from him.

      Bob

      2 years ago

      Before getting a club fitting. Prepare yourself by stretching or loosing up to be able to swing the club.

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