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The 10 Most Overrated Golf Experiences

Golf might be the most romanticized sport on earth.

Few other games come with their own mythology of misty dawn tee times, legendary courses and the idea that the next swing tip, the next new club or the next bucket-list trip will finally unlock the golfer you were always meant to be.

A dream is sold and golfers buy it enthusiastically, often at a steep price.

But, if we are honest with ourselves, a few of these dreams are better in theory than they are in reality.

Every golfer knows the feeling. You finally get to live the experience you’ve been anticipating for months and realize it isn’t quite what you imagined. Maybe it’s slower, harder or more expensive than expected. Maybe it’s perfectly fine but just not the transformative moment you were promised.

You smile for the photo anyway because admitting disappointment feels a little like admitting you don’t love the game enough.

This list is for everyone who has quietly had that thought.

It isn’t an argument that these experiences are inherently bad. Some are genuinely fun and a few can be great under the right circumstances. The point is that they’re overvalued.

The 10 experiences ranked here cover the full range of golf life. Each entry is ranked by how wide the gap is between expectation and reality, with cost as the tiebreaker.

At the end, I want to hear what golf experiences you believe are overrated. Comment below!

10. Getting the first tee time of the day

Often romanticized as the perfect time to play golf, getting the first tee time of the day is lauded for its relative peace and lack of any golfers ahead of you. It’s possible to play a full round in three hours if you want to do so. And you have the rest of the day to do whatever else you want.

However, there are a few key drawbacks that don’t get included in this rosy picture:

  • You regularly encounter the grounds crew (and/or sprinklers) as they finish their work.
  • You have to wake up at an ungodly hour to get to the course (where the pro shop may not be open yet).
  • Your warmup will either not happen or be cut short (and your body may still be stiff since you just woke up).
  • The ground can be soaking wet from the dew which greatly affects putting and shots from the rough.
  • Frost delays are also a concern in many parts of the world.

The king of all tee times is mid-morning. You are not dealing with any of the above issues but you can also just wake up and go the course for the full experience.

Being first off? It’s fun to talk about but it’s very overrated.

9. Playing in a charity scramble outing

Well, you’ve heard me rant about this one before.

I’ll preface this by saying that raising money for charity through golf is awesome. Presumably, you are playing with people you know and are having fun.

However, the “golf tournament” itself is wildly overrated.

Everyone and their mom is cheating in these things. You are honestly just playing for the sport of it because you know a foursome of old dudes wearing cargo shorts will show up with a 47 on their scorecard.

Secondly, the rounds take an eternity. There are usually non-golfers or novice golfers involved. There are special promos (hey, shoot your golf ball out of a cannon and donate to our cause so your group gets an ace on this hole). There is the lengthy pre-game speech from the club’s head pro. There is the post-game raffle.

Thirdly, the scramble format, while inclusive, tends to be outrageously tedious. It’s hard to get into any rhythm. If you are the best player in your group, you have to watch people before you shank approach shots into the weeds and then awkwardly praise their efforts.

Charity scrambles are designed for people who are decidedly not avid golfers. Which is OK!

But if you are a capital ‘G’ Golfer, you would rather be playing a normal round of golf.

8. Buying a full matching set from one brand

The appeal is easy to understand.

A bag full of clubs from one company looks cohesive and intentional. Hey, I’m just like a pro who is signed with an OEM! Brands market their lineups as families designed to work together and there’s a comfort in brand loyalty once you’ve had a good experience with one manufacturer’s driver or irons. It can feel like the “complete” way to build a set.

The problem—which is made clear through our testing—is that different clubs do very different jobs and brands never excel equally at all of them.

One company might make an outstanding driver for your swing while its wedges don’t suit your bounce and grind needs. Another might have irons that fit your eye and ball flight perfectly while its putters feel wrong.

Putters in particular are so personal in terms of look, feel, weight and alignment that the odds of your ideal one coming from the same company as your ideal driver are pretty slim.

By committing to one brand, you’re limiting yourself to one company’s options in every category rather than picking the best fit in each.

It also puts the emphasis on the wrong thing. What makes a set “work together” isn’t the logo. What matters is the distance gapping between clubs, consistent shaft profiles through the irons, wedge lofts that fill the right yardages, etc. You can achieve all of that with a mixed bag and a good fitter will usually get you there faster when they aren’t locked into one catalog.

Tour players who aren’t bound to a full-bag equipment deal mix brands freely for exactly this reason.

The fair caveat is that consistency within a category does matter since a matched iron set keeps feel and gapping predictable. And for beginners, a one-brand box set can be great value. The overrated part is extending that logic to the whole bag.

7. Filming your own round like a YouTuber

I think we’re in a period where a lot of people want to be influencers.

There is almost a seductive quality of getting a camera, tripod and some editing software to film yourself playing golf so you can create content. The barrier to entry is seemingly non-existent and the potential payoff is high.

But like looking at a mountain from a distance and thinking it couldn’t take all that long to reach the top, the depth perception on creating YouTube golf content is heavily distorted.

Let’s start with the accounts that have made it big in this space like Grant Horvat, Bryson DeChambeau and Good Good (too soon?). These are companies with production teams. They make it look easy because they have the manpower to do it. And then they reinvest their profits back into the product to make it even better.

The reality of filming your own content? A one-man-band situation where you spend the day setting up shots, restarting the camera and potentially slowing down your group (or as we saw with U.S. Open qualifying, possibly disrupting competitors).

The footage mostly shows you walking to your ball and hitting average shots. The editing is arduous. And even in the absolute best-case scenario, you are left with the uphill battle of the century to crack into a very saturated market.

Ultimately, the work is grueling, the payoff is extremely unlikely and you have to really love making content to enjoy it.

6. Having a caddie or forecaddie at a resort

I wrote about this in our newsletter recently but getting a caddie can be such a crapshoot. Great ones improve the experience, poor ones can sour it.

Where this turns substantially more overrated is when we’re talking about resort golf specifically.

At many resorts, it’s a mandatory caddie fee plus a hefty expected tip. And, truthfully, the reads and yardages don’t help much if you can’t hit the shot anyway.

A great local caddie can make a round; a rushed one juggling multiple players as he angles for the best tip rarely does.

It sounds awesome to have someone carry your clubs and give advice but you are also being forced to be with a person who may or may not be a personality match with your group. And their technical skills may not be great, either.

In the past few years, I’ve had a few different resort caddies:

  • The guy who got legitimately offended when I overestimated my 5-iron carry yardage.
  • The guy who didn’t know his own course that well, offering clearly wrong advice on where to aim.
  • The guy who wouldn’t stop talking, even when I was over the ball.

There is an art form to being a great caddie and it’s a coin toss whether you will find an additive caddie when you play resort golf. And, yes, I’ve had bad experiences at places like Bandon. No resort is immune.

Sometimes you would just rather skip the caddie and enjoy the day without them.

5. Attending the Ryder Cup

Perhaps a controversial pick here but I’ll stand by this one.

Look, the opening tee at a Ryder Cup is electric. The passion, the pageantry, the energy—it’s second to none within the golf world.

And there is a certain “football game mentality” where the Ryder Cup shines.

But if you take away that opening tee environment (which requires getting to the course in the wee hours of the morning), the Ryder Cup fan experience goes downhill in a hurry.

On Friday and Saturday, there are only four groups on the course at any given time. Forget trying to follow any of those groups because you are battling about 50,000 other fans who have the same idea. Forget trying to put a chair on a key hole late in the round because there’s no guarantee each match will get to that point. Even if each group comes through, it’s one hour of watching golf and the rest is viewed on a screen.

Actually watching golf at a Ryder Cup is a huge chore.

And then Sunday’s 12 singles matches are so action-packed that, regardless of where you are, it’s nearly impossible to follow everything without a TV.

Attending a Ryder Cup is conceding that you are there to be a part of the scene and not much else. It’s like golf’s version of being in Times Square on New Year’s Eve, only fans don’t need to wear a diaper (maybe some of the imbeciles throwing tantrums at Bethpage should have had one anyway).

Add in the fact that the Ryder Cup has the most expensive face-value tickets in golf (over $700 last year) and this experience is just not worth the pain. Maybe you do it once to check it off the bucket list but that’s as far as it goes.

4. Putting on lightning-fast greens

Golfers love to say that they putt better on fast greens or that they have more fun on fast greens.

The preference for fast greens is clearly there given how many courses go to great lengths to get their greens rolling at a 13 or beyond on the Stimpmeter. In many ways, green speeds are a way for clubs to puff out their chests and show superiority.

However, there is a point of diminishing returns when it comes to green speeds.

When you are “laying up” on a 10-footer because the green is faster than the clubhouse parking lot, that’s not a lot of fun.

Hitting a putt with a reasonable amount of pace and watching it roll off the green into a bunker? Not a lot of fun.

And, even more importantly, I would argue that it becomes less about testing skill at that point.

Green speeds can reach a certain stage where it doesn’t even feel like you are playing golf anymore. Great shots are not being rewarded and it seems like you are being punished for every shot.

I’m a big believer that greens should have more slope and less pace. The arms race to max out on green speeds is highly overrated and not good for the game.

3. Playing 36 holes on any given day of a golf trip

I will get some heavy pushback for this one but I’m standing by it.

The point of a golf trip is to enjoy it. I think that involves managing energy levels to where you are ready to play each day.

The top mistake I see when people go on golf trips is that they overload the schedule. They go with four rounds in three days or something along those lines. Hey, let’s play Bandon Dunes and Pacific Dunes in one day! We have to play all of these notable courses and there aren’t enough days to do it so we’ll cram them all in!

The better option, in my opinion, is to accept you won’t get to every big course. Instead, pair some of the days with a short course, putting course or another smaller golf activity that is different from the regulation course you just played. Or, better yet, enjoy an easy non-golf activity to keep everyone fresh.

You should save the most important courses for standalone tee times, preferably in the morning where you know you will have energy.

Remember, you are traveling (hard on the body) and probably not eating/drinking super healthy. The last thing you want to do is go too hard early in your trip.

The caveat here is if everyone involved routinely plays 36 holes per day, then I could understand scheduling the rounds that way. But the data is pretty clear that golfers rarely play back-to-back rounds so this would not apply to many groups.

2. The “Going In Blind To Buy A New Set” Club Fitting

My uncle works in high-school fundraising and has a saying he uses when working with schools: “We’ll throw you a life raft but you have to be an active participant in your own rescue.”

The saying applies perfectly to club fitting, an often misunderstood element of a golfer’s journey in our game.

There is an expectation that golfers can show up to a club fitting, sing “Jesus, take the wheel!” and go home with a new set of clubs that fit exactly how they want. It sounds great, right? I need to be fitted and want new clubs so let’s knock it out. Many golfers operate that way.

Sweet summer child, it’s a little more complex than that.

There is no one way to fit a golfer and there is no one certification to become a fitter. Some fitters are very knowledgeable and have your best interest at heart; others may be more motivated by upselling you an $800 shaft you absolutely don’t need.

And for one reason or another, who you are in a fitting may not be who you are on the course (where the game is played, you know). Your tendencies and patterns have to be understood by yourself and communicated (that fat 8-iron you regularly hit may not be showing up on artificial turf).

You also have to leave all preconceived notions at the door. If you are gung-ho on Titleist wedges but the fitting shows you are markedly better off with Kirkland wedges, you have to be open to accepting that.

The biggest thing? You have to find a trusted fitter (often through word of mouth) and then go in with a realistic plan about what you want to get out of it. Remember the Billy Beane-David Justice scene in Moneyball? “Let’s both be honest about what we want out of this …”

Going into a club fitting and letting the fitter take total control is like going to a therapist and saying “fix me” with the expectation your anxiety will be erased in 50 minutes. In fitting terms, you show up hoping to be told what you need and you leave having bought what felt best for an hour.

It doesn’t work that way. You have to be a participant in your own rescue.

1. Having a one-off lesson from a famous instructor

Ah, we end with some of golf’s most alluring fool’s gold.

There are few things in our game as naive and egotistical as the golfer who believes he can be immediately cured by the Midas touch of a name-brand instructor. You know the coaches. These are the guys and gals who work with tour pros. They have shows or infomercials on Golf Channel. They are sponsored by training aids.

This concept of getting the perfect advice from a known commodity is tempting but highly flawed.

For one, you are probably never going to see them again and one-off lessons are generally a bad idea. Few, if any, golfers can improve over the long term with one tip. True progress comes from repetition and continual adjustments.

Secondly, you are paying an arm and a leg for this. The thing is that the instruction is probably comparable to what you’d get from a significantly cheaper instructor in your area. There are levels to instruction, of course, but there are also thousands of terrific instructors out there—some just have more of a platform than others.

Thirdly, what a golfer needs from a lesson and what a golfer wants to feel after a lesson are two different things. A 10-handicap who gets a lesson from Butch Harmon may need to spend an hour hitting three-quarter wedge shots to learn how to control the clubface. But you spent hundreds of dollars to get there and take the lesson so that’s an underwhelming feeling for the golfer.

The opposite effect—an instructor trying to fit three months of coaching into a short time frame—is much worse.

Another possibility? The famous instructor provides advice that sticks with the golfer for ages. However, the golfer’s body, equipment and other factors may have changed, so that coaching may no longer be relevant.

To me, that makes getting a one-off lesson from a famous instructor the most unnecessarily glorified and overrated golf experience of them all.

Do you agree with the list? Love it or hate it? Let me know below in the comments.

Top Photo Caption: A packed crowd at the Ryder Cup. (GETTY IMAGES/Scott Halleran)

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Sean is a longtime golf journalist and underachieving 10 handicap who enjoys the game in all forms. If he didn't have an official career writing about golf, Sean would spend most of his free time writing about it anyway. When he isn't playing golf, you can find Sean watching his beloved Florida Panthers hockey team, traveling to a national park or listening to music on his record player. He lives in Nashville with his wife, Anja, and dog, Hogan.

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      Krauter

      4 weeks ago

      I couldn’t agree more, with your take on attending a Ryder Cup. There are too many people and not enough golf being played, to make attending worthwhile. Unless of course, you’re in a corporate suite, with free food, booze, and TVs.

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      Dr Tee

      4 weeks ago

      A lot of generalizations and outright misstatements and misconceptions here which are much more reflective of the author’s personal preferences than the general golfing public at large.
      Makes me feel that this article generated just to fill space.

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      Mackdaddy

      1 month ago

      Wow Sean Grand slam! First tee time Check the dew is real in the rough wipes the spin right off your ball slows putts and gives misleading reads from the tracks because you have no idea how fast he hit it.

      Golf trips, Don’t over load the golf. Give me great courses and fun team games with fun post golf options. Anyone that wants to play extra can get a replay rate in the clubhouse and knock themselves out.

      Charity outings. Enjoy the time with your friends and don’t let the pencil pushers winning make you upset.

      Putting on fast greens. Sure having a shorter stroke makes keeping it on your line easier. If you putt on them all the time that matters. If you rarely play fast greens you will need twelve holes to figure out how they break at that pace and you will get defensive by the third time you blow it 5 feet past the hole.

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      sean

      1 month ago

      Playing St Andrews is one of the most overrated experiences.
      Take away the “history” and it’s not even the best course in St. Andrews. It’s too easy, too boring and it takes too long.

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      mg

      1 month ago

      I hate being a dew sweeper. Augusta is to blame for ruining all the classic courses because of – green speed. Older courses that have fast greens have very few pin placements. And thankfully the olds scramble is not returning.

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      RPP

      1 month ago

      The amount of bad writing from the commenters on this page is appalling, as usual. People today are truly shameless troglodytes.

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      John Paton

      1 month ago

      Sean,
      I’m just your average 80 year old 10-12 marker in Australia so some of your Top 10 don’t really apply but one stood out and that’s….#4… “putting on lightning fast greens” – good to see it’s a worldwide disease at least but the laughable thing is those Captains/Greens Committee’s that present their course to visitors or Pennants teams with sudden 13′-15′ Stimmeter readings in the belief that “we’ll show these guys – once they’ve played here they’ll be back to get a bit of real golf” – sorry not going to happen Homer – would much rather have consistency, interest and a smooth surface

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      Larry Ludwig

      1 month ago

      Could not agree more with the Ryder Cup experience. Having gone to the Ryder Cup at Whisling Straights, the ability to see any substantial golf was lost from day 1. Additionally this was the hardest walking course I have ever been on.

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      Greg

      1 month ago

      Lists like this are fun because they are subjective and no two golfers are exactly alike. For me, playing 36 in a day is one of life’s greatest gifts, including on a golf trip. When I was a kid, I walked 36 every weekday all summer, the best days of my life. I know people who swear by the first tee time as the best one. I’d say the most overrated thing about golf these days is the golf boom here in the US, where nobody cares much about golf etiquette or teaching it anymore, and pace of play is abysmal.

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      James Landers

      1 month ago

      I had the good fortune to be at Brookline for the somewhat Ben Crenshaw led comeback on Sunday. Without doubt the most exciting sports event I have ever experienced and I have had the good fortune to see a World Series game, an All Star Game, a Super Bowl and the Masters (3 Times). The atmosphere was electric!

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      Andrew the Great!

      4 weeks ago

      Ditto, though my brother and I were there for the Thursday practice rounds and Friday-thru-Sunday matches. Great, terrific experience (even though the merch was picked clean by Thursday morning), esp. since it was with my brother. Watched Leonard’s putt from inside a huge tent and bear-hugged a total stranger when the putt dropped. I have framed the tickets (all 6, even though we only used 4 of them) plus the worn program sheet. One of my favorite mementos. But I’ll not go to another one, for two reasons. First, you see almost no golf. Second, the PGA of America can go to hell. If the Bethpage RC tickets were adjusted for inflation from 1999, they would’ve been around $1,300 for all 6 days, per person. Instead, they were around $3,200 per person. F the PGAoA forevermore.

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      EJ

      1 month ago

      I agree with these, but I’m guilty of filming my swing during a twilight solo round so that I could figure out why I was hitting everything right. Turned out that I was coming in way steep.

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      Jim

      1 month ago

      I agree with bad caddies. I was at Bandon and the group hired a forecaddie. What a waste of money.
      The guy was clueless on green reading and advice.
      Had a caddie on another experience and he was great. He said it was possible your group was scammed by some guy with a range finder on the earlier experience.

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      Matt

      1 month ago

      After reading some of the comments I’m glad I’m not the only one that disagrees about the first time. Yes this list is your opinion but where I live if you’re not out in the first hour maybe first two hours you will be playing well over 4 hour rounds. I would much rather get out early and be done by 10 (1st tee time in peak summer is 6am) and we usually finish around 9:30.

      I’m glad you mentioned the Ryder cup tho and that makes sense. I’m not willing to spend that kind of money and not being able to enjoy the atmosphere. Especially with the kind of fans that have been showing up to it. Looks like I’ll keep waiting for my chance to go to the Masters!

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      EJ

      1 month ago

      First tee time by me is also 6 but I get there 15 mins early and the guy in the pro shop lets me tee off first as a solo. I usually finish 18 in a cart in a hair over two hrs. It’s awesome.

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      Todd L

      1 month ago

      I think attending a Ryder Cup is definitively a bucket list experience if you can justify the cost. I was fortunate enough to attend the tournament at Whistling Straits. I was completely shocked by the behavior of the US fans and their constant abuse and derogatory comments to the European team. This was repeated again in New York and taken to another level. Some of the personal insults yelled at Rory were disgusting and then to have a beer thrown at his wife was inexcusable. My advice would be to see a Ryder Cup on European soil for a more pleasant experience.

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      Scott

      1 month ago

      Most of these things would not even cross my mind as an experience I would be interested tested in.

      I totally disagree about the first tee time. Absolutely the best way to enjoy a course is first time in the morning or any other time you can have a course to yourself. No waits, no golfer with music you can hear from 2 holes away or other things to distract from the game and beauty of the course.

      Also Fast greens are great as long as the course is designed for them.

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      Randy

      1 month ago

      I never buy on the first fitting visit. I’ll go back and hit them a few times with shaft variations. Also go to a couple of different locations for fitting to see if there are some common results. I’m in no rush to drop $ on clubs after one try. It would be like basing your handicap on one round.

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      larry

      1 month ago

      I will disagree with the one off golf lesson. I for years kept trying a “single plain” Moe Normanish type swing, with books and dvd’s. Then I was at a driving range and saw a guy giving a lesson and on his overly large bag was written “Natural Golf” which I remembered was am method with TV ads years ago. So I went over ask the guy about his bag and he said he worked years ago as an instructor for “Natural Golf” and worked with Moe Norman. I ask about a lesson as I was playing around with the single plain. He had a little step fee but I went for one, one lesson a 1inch change in the grip, using the arms a bit more and I had 3 hole in ones in 6 weeks. He was the most high end instructor I ever paid for a lesson and worth every penny. P>S> he had a lot of stores about Moe too, note if your trying to copy Moe he was left handed playing right he said that was one of the reason his swing stayed on plain as the right never got in the way of his pulling the club on plain.

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      Dr Tee

      4 weeks ago

      geez Larry, it’s ON PLANE !!

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      Mike D

      1 month ago

      I can agree with a handful of these, but there a few I definitely take issue with… you’ve built in some assumptions on some that would take away from the experience, but that doesn’t make the concept overrated.

      Dewsweeping: not overrated at all. Yes, IF you get that course that has maintenance right in front of the first group, that takes away from it, but the first tee time of the day is very desirable at many courses, and I often find it more enjoyable.

      Caddies at resorts: Sure, I’ve had bad ones too…but I still (almost) always take one. The key is telling the caddie what you’re looking for (and even telling the caddie master ahead of time so you get the right pick). Ask for someone to lug your bag around (B, Jr, etc.), and you get just that; request an A/Pro caddie, tell the caddie master that you’re looking for the caddie to give real advice on how to play the holes (not just lug the bag), things like that, and you’ll get paired up with someone that will give you that information. At a destination like Bandon (called out in your notes, where I also had one bad caddie experience but two great ones), at least at a certain skill level, it’s far more enjoyable if you don’t go in blind.

      And 36/day — in some situations, it doesn’t make sense for the individual, but I prefer it. I don’t want to go to a golf destination and sit around all afternoon thinking “maybe we should’ve gone back out” — yea, it’s harder on the body, but if you’re going to a big walking resort, you need to do some conditioning ahead of time to get ready for that (plus, in my experience, those afternoon side games are equally hard on the body, but for different reasons). Biggest issue I have with this list is in this section: “accept you won’t get to every big course” — absolutely not. If you’re making that trip to Bandon, Streamsong, Cabot, etc. and you DON’T play one of the big courses, you’ll probably regret it someday. Those places rarely even fit into the “once every couple years” destinations — some are once in a lifetime. So unless it’s a tight budget or too tight of a schedule to be able to do them all, do whatever it takes to fit them all in.

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      Dan Hartman

      1 month ago

      So good! I got lambasted for not wanting to play 36 at Bandon. 18 plus a short course, thanks. And those 36 days also started too early. Pass

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      Philip Cortese

      1 month ago

      Being in the south, getting the 1st tee time in the summer is priceless. Love to beat the heat and the afternoon thunderstorms. As to charity scrambles, play them for the organization’s benefit, sometimes they are on courses I don’t or can’t (private) play, and I’d be happy to win a closest to the pin prize while not trying to win the tourney.

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      Don

      1 month ago

      Good Point on that. Forgot one time played an outing that was being held at Firestone’s West Course. Would not have been able to play a Firestone course otherwise!!

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      Patrick Patterson

      1 month ago

      1st tee time never overrated and 3 hour round of golf you dont need that many practice swings 3hours is slow 2hours 25 min now thats right and number 1 attending any pga tour event 1 the masters

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      S Ray

      1 month ago

      Fast greens? What part of three putting do you like best? The only reason you didnt four putt was that you picked up that last four footer.
      Your list is good but you left off playing at an “exclusive” private club. While some can be outstanding you so often have to get past the ostentatiousness and stuffy rules. The most obvious pair that you left off are getting a new driver or putter. So very often the honeymoon is very short and ends even before the charge card statement arrives.

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      FEDUPCALIFORNIAN

      1 month ago

      This could easily make the list.

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      Max

      1 month ago

      On Monday I played with a friend of mine and right as we were about to pull off to #1 tee, one of the Clubhouse guys said “fair warning, we had our “Ryder Cup” with our (sister club) this weekend (one course is semi private the other is public but sells memberships, both are two of the better non Members Only courses in the area). The greens are as fast as they can make them and the pins havent been moved yet”.

      Didnt kill the round or the good time, but it WAS brutal. Hole locations on spines, severe downhill slopes, short sided to a bunker where if you aimed for the fat of the green you were looking at a 30 foot lag with crazy speeds. After5-6 holes I’d adjusted to the speed, more or less, but the pins were just ludicrous.

      At least it was the first day of fall rates, so it was about half of what they charge on the weekend in the summertime, but for the next year Im going to hear “You didnt just three putt, you FORTY three putted”. Good times, LOL (and yes, 7 three putts, zero 1 putts, 43 putts total). Probably would’ve booked elsewhere had we known ahead of time

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      John Knight

      1 month ago

      I am the first tee time group every weekend at my club. So I disagree, first time is 0700 at our club, the range is open at 0600. You can warm up just like anyone else, yes there is dew on the ground but our crews are off the course at 0630 and the greens are done so there are no rooster tails on putts We do face frost delays on occasion but that just means the first tee time is a little later and we can sit down and watch ESPN or Golf Channel then go warm up. Our foursome is done between 2 45 and 3 hours, bar is open when we finish so blood mary and breakfast is how we finish.

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      FEDUPCALIFORNIAN

      1 month ago

      Yay….thats YOU

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      Bagger

      1 month ago

      Yay for the first tee time.

      Bagger Vince

      1 month ago

      Agree completely

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      Ernie NOT Els

      1 month ago

      Great list. I have either never done these things or have done them only once or twice. What stands out especially are those God-awful Scramble Tournaments. I’ve seen more cheaters at these events than a room full of suspects at an IRS round up. Oh, and then there was that caddie who was only carrying my bag because he wanted me to help him get into law school and into my hot niece’s pants. Oh, wait, that was a movie I saw once at the drive-in.

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      FEDUPCALIFORNIAN

      1 month ago

      TRUTH

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      ctg44

      1 month ago

      No way on the 1st tee time. With our busy schedules, getting in a full 18, getting to the store before the church crowd, and home all before 11:00 AM? Priceless. Being able to go back out in the afternoon, after resting and eating and getting in another full 18? Extra priceless.

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      Marc Breuer

      1 month ago

      I’m with you on this. The pros far outweigh the cons on the early time times. I played as part of the Sunrise group at our club for 12 years and never regretted a day of it.
      I agree with everything else on the list, though.

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      Warthog

      1 month ago

      Totally agree. The local fundraiser is rife with mulligan buying. It raises money, tho. I’d recommend a driver fitting, if you’re at all unsure about a fitting. Had a senior buddy get fitted to a stiff shaft! IKR? But, it straightened his big Ole slice into a much longer fade.

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      Frank

      1 month ago

      Sean- I have to disagree with the charity event assessment, if it is truly a celebrity event. You are too young to remember a QB for the Houston Oilers by the name of Dan Pastorini, who played for Bum Phillips at the height of the “Luv Ya Blue ” days. Played with Dante in an American Cancer Society event and had a great time! We share the same ethnic heritage, so there was a bit of “name calling” shall we say. (We completely missed the dinner as we were drinking and hitting chip/pitch shots to a Coke can for 5, 10, 20 dollars a shot. Closest to the can wins!) We played together another 5 or so times after the event around Houston and had a great time. Yes, they are long; yes, there are a lot of non-golfers trying to play, but you make the best of it and sometimes it is a great time!

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      Astrodome Dweller

      1 month ago

      Run it. Run the Bumerooski.

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      Luke

      1 month ago

      10. Getting the first tee time of the day

      – Booo! The first tee time is the best! Under-rated actually!

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      Tom54

      1 month ago

      Regarding the caddie, I had a good experience at Bandon as we had the same caddies for 3 straight days. I took a caddie at my round at Bethpage Black. Glad I did, as it’s a tougher walk than it looks. Young guy, nice guy. Knew almost nothing about the course (this is a trophy course, dude. You need to know something.) Left one of my clubs behind on at least 3 holes, including my putter which he discovered on the green of a par 3.
      The charity one is funny too. I love the hole where if the group donates $100, you can all hit a tee shot and if you land in one of the hula hoops, you win a new driver. Let’s see, I’m playing with my custom fit Callaway Elyte Triple Diamond Max. But I want to pay money to win your Warrior infomercial driver.

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      Greg B

      1 month ago

      Best tee time? 3-4 hours before dark on a weeknight. You get the course to yourself and can be done in 3 hours, and you have none of the crack of dawn nonsense mentioned above. Of course there’s always the risk of the dreaded 4some of golf Bros that you sometimes run into, but you can always skip a hole and head back and play it later, and heck, sometimes they might even let you play through.

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      Frank

      1 month ago

      I’m with you Greg!

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      Mike

      1 month ago

      Some of the most beautiful sights I’ve experienced have been on a golf course as dusk approaches

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      Objective reviewer 1

      1 month ago

      I like to finish rounds near dusk. That way, enjoying a beer after isn’t wasting the rest of the day, since there day is basically over.

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      Francis

      1 month ago

      Definitely agree that attending the Ryder Cup is overrated. Went last year, never again.

      Not overrated? Attending the Masters.

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      JMACK

      1 month ago

      Whilst some US “fans” behavior was embarrassing to witness I can honestly say attending the ryder cup last year and applauding both teams coming through the 14th par three all afternoon on the Saturday was a glorious day I’ll never forget.

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      Ritch

      1 month ago

      I’ve been to each of the majors, with the exception of the PGA, and the Ryder Cup. While the experience was great, Augusta is like walking through a shrine, ultimately I was able to see more golf played by watching the TV broadcast.

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      Mike

      1 month ago

      My comments:
      10. Getting the first tee time of the day – Not for me. My body, as I’ve aged does not function that early & since I walk nearly all my rounds, I hate to slop around in the morning dew.
      9. Playing in a charity scramble outing – There’s always someone cheating…accept that fact & just try & have fun. It’s a CHARITY outing, not a US Open qualifier.
      7. Filming your own round like a YouTuber – I see guys doing this when my course is empty…no issues w/ that as long as I can play through. But don’t dream of doing it on a crowded weekend.
      5. Attending the Ryder Cup – I had the opportunity to be given VIP tix at a US Open. Since then, regardless of what the tournament is, I’ll only attend if I can get (& afford) some type of VIP ticket.
      4. Putting on lightning-fast greens – I’ve laughed at this one for years! Love when a ‘bogey’ golfer says “they love fast greens”, then proceed to 3-putt every other hole. I enjoy greens that are somewhat quick, roll true & where the pin positions are not ridiculous. The designer of my home course told me flat out that given the slopes & contours of the greens there, he recommended not to make them super fast or it would really slow down play.
      3. Playing 36 holes on any given day of a golf trip – Some older guys I knew used to go on an annual golf trip where they’d drive a few hours then jump out of their cars & play 18 on the first day. Day 2 w/b a very early alarm, a quick breakfast, play 18, grab a hot dog for lunch, drive to another course, hop out of the car & play 18 more. Repeat for day 3. Not for me. I go on a golf trip to relax & have fun w/ friends. If we want to play more golf, we’ll just stay longer!

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      Francis

      1 month ago

      Totally with you on the fast greens. I don’t know when “fast” became a marker of quality. Certainly doesn’t apply to food service.

      I prefer greens that are “normal” — not anything too fast or too slow, just average — and most importantly, they need to be consistent from green to green and also between the practice greens and the real greens. There are so many courses near me that have slow practice greens and when you actually get to hole 1 you are smacked in the face by the speed.

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      The Swami

      1 month ago

      ha! more power to those who do, but coming from the East Coast even if i wanted to (and i don’t) i’m not traveling all the way to Bandon to play 18 a day. there’s a reason there’s nothing else to do there.

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      Don

      1 month ago

      This is a very good article. I agree with the exception of #10, and #3. As my brother and I are still struggling to find 2 additional players to make a “secure” every weekend foursome, one of the first tee times of the morning is almost an absolute necessity. The only way as a twosome mired in the middle of foursomes, in the mid morning, to now wait endlessly, would be to play two balls apiece from tee to green. This practice, unless the groups behind actually understands golf, will immediately have you being blamed for slowing following groups down, when in fact it just allows you to play at the pace of a foursome. The contagion that this practice creates resembles that of the Salem witch trials in the late 1600′. We will just take the first tee time.

      As to #3, here is more pushback. I guess it is all about perspective. I begin to put more effort into stretching, conditioning etc. when my golf trip is approaching. A golf trip is not a vacation. I go on a golf trip to “play golf”. I am not a foodie, I’m not interested in going out at night. And honestly I can play one round of golf, and sit around the rest of the day AT HOME. Most of my trips are in the spring, when my location has precluded golf from December – March. The golf trip is a means to “jump start” my play for the year. I am right now looking to see if anyone else on our 2027 golf trip is interested in stopping at a course to play at 0900 when the sun comes up, on our way to Calabash NC. Also to see who want an additional 18 holes on the 2 days only 18 are scheduled. I enjoy the people I go on the trip with. But if I’m not doing something that I can’t ordinarily do at home where golf is concerned, then I would rather be at home with my family!

      The other 8 in my opinion are spot on !

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      MarkM

      1 month ago

      TOTALLY disagree with your take on the first tee time of the day – Love it! Will only do a mid-day tee time if forced to – you always end up behind every weekend hacker who’s there to drink beer, get away from the wife and kids and has no problem with turning in a 5 hour round.

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      Don

      1 month ago

      Right on MarkM!!!

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      Vito

      1 month ago

      Thankfully I’m retired and rarely play on weekends anymore. And courses rarely use rangers anymore to mitigate slow play.

      Reply

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