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Ball Lab:  2024 Snell Prime 3.0

MyGolfSpy Ball Lab is where we quantify the manufacturing quality and consistency of golf balls. Ball lab does not infer durability or guarantee your performance. Today, we’re reviewing the 2024 Snell Prime 3.0.

The 2024 Snell Prime 3.0 and its sibling, the Prime 2.0 and Prime 4.0, are the result of the “phoenix rising from the ashes” after founder Dean Snell scrapped the prior generation, MTB Prime and MTB Prime X. Snell set out to fix the ills of the prior models and, hence, the genesis of the new line-up.

Snell says the Prime 3.0 features a “new core for high ball speed and low driver spin for maximum distance” as well as a new 332-dimple XV3 urethane cover to provide “a soft feel” with “ultimate short game control and durability.” This new package is available in white and yellow.

Like the others in the Prime series, the 3.0 is fitted according to 7-iron playing distance. Snell says it is “designed for a wide range of mid swing speed players with 7-iron distances of 120-170 yards.”

Bringing the new Snell Prime 3.0 to market was more than just a redesign. Prior to the first golf balls ever rolling of the production line, the Launch Technologies factory in Taiwan burned to the ground resulting in Snell having to overcome yet another challenge. The current Prime series is manufactured in China.

Who is it for?

  • Designed for mid swing speed players with 7-iron distances of 120-170 yards
  • Snell says “the new three-piece PRIME 3.0 features a new core for high ball speed and low driver spin for maximum distance.”
  • Both Snell and the USGA report low spin with the driver/mid spin with irons.
  • With an average compression of 87, the Prime 3.0 will have a firm feel off the clubface.
  • The Prime 3.0 golf ball comes in at US$32.99 a dozen which is significantly less the the average premium ball at US$55.

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Why does Ball Lab matter?

The golf ball is the only piece of equipment you use on every shot.

Most avid golfers put a premium on distance with accuracy a close second. At high swing speeds, we have seen up to a 19-yard disparity between the longest and shortest ball. An off-center core could cause your golf ball to fly 20 yards offline. Heck, even a small cover defect may be costing you strokes.

In other words, your golf ball really does make a difference.

MyGolfSpy Ball Lab was conceived to quantify the quality and consistency of golf balls. As the expression goes, it’s what’s on the inside that counts.

By shining a light on quality and consistency, we can provide golfers better insight into the hidden realities of today’s golf balls and help you understand how the construction of golf balls impacts your real-life performance.

Compression

Compression is a measurement of the force necessary to deform a golf ball. The higher the compression value, the more force is required.

Compression is closely correlated with speed with higher-compression golf balls producing higher ball speeds and more potential distance.

When there is a wide spread of compression across the sample, ball speed will be inconsistent. Since spin rates are tied to compression differences between layers, inconsistencies in compression can also lead to inconsistent spin rates.

Snell Prime 3.0 Ball Lab

Core consistency

Our visual inspection seeks to identify issues in layer concentricity. That includes cores that are off-center and mantle layers that are uneven (visibly thicker in some areas than others).

Concentricity issues can cause a ball to fly offline or roll offline on the green. The more severe the concentricity defect, the more offline the ball is likely to fly.

In robot testing, we’ve seen perfectly struck balls fly up to 30 yards offline at driver speeds of
100 mph.

Diameter and weight

The diameter of a golf ball can affect performance in a number of ways. Balls that are not round can fly offline and will roll offline on the green.

A smaller golf ball is more aerodynamically efficient which is why golf’s governing bodies have a minimum size requirement of 1.68 inches. A larger ball, especially one described as “Tour quality”, is not maximizing its aerodynamic potential while smaller balls are non-conforming under the rules of golf.

Generally speaking, a heavier ball will produce more distance which is why the maximum allowable weight is 1.62 ounces. Balls that are significantly lighter sacrifice performance (distance) while balls that exceed 1.62 are non-conforming under the rules of golf.

In the case of diameter and weight, when there is significant variance across the sample, balls can be expected to perform differently.

Ball Lab Scale

Cover defects

The cover provides the aerodynamic properties of the golf ball. Familiar metrics like launch angle and peak height are directly related to the cover. When a cover is damaged, it can disrupt the aerodynamics of the golf ball. Depending on the orientation of the defect at impact, damaged balls can fly severely offline or fly significantly higher or lower than expected.

How we test golf ball quality

The Ball Lab test process itself consists of four parts.

Compression

Snell Prime 3.0 Compression

Effectively, we have two compression metrics.

The average of our three measurements (two seam, one pole) is considered to be the compression for each ball. This is the number we publish in our compression charts. The Snell Prime 3.0 had an average compression of 87 placing it in the firm class.

If the average compression for any given ball varies significantly from the median compression for the set, it is deemed “bad.”

The second metric looks at the consistency of compression across the three points measured on each ball.

When there is significant variation across those three points, that ball is also deemed “bad.”

Our Compression Consistency rating is based on an aggregation of the two compression metrics. The total compression consistency for the sample tested was poor with a compression variability of 17.8 points. Due to compression variances, six (6) golf balls were flagged as bad.

Weight

Snell Prime 3.0 Scale

With an allowance for a small margin of error, a ball is deemed “bad” when its weight exceeds the allowable limit of 1.620 ounces.

In addition to the weight of each ball, we also track the consistency of weight across the entire sample. The weight consistency for the sample tested was poor and twenty (20) golf balls were flagged as bad due to being over the allowable weight limit.

Diameter

Snell Prime 3.0 Diameter

Diameter measurements are taken at four points on each golf ball (two seam, one pole, one off-pole/off-seam). Our diameter measurement represents the average of the four points measured. The 4-point diameter for the sample tested was 1.68552 inches giving it an extra large diameter classification.

When there is significant variation between points, the ball is measured again to ensure accuracy.

Using a generous standard, we compare the average of our seam measurements to our pole measurement to determine if a ball is round. A ball that is not round is deemed “bad.” Six (6) golf balls flagged as not round.

Snell Prime 3.0 Ball Track

In addition to average size and roundness, we check each ball for adherence to the rules. The “Ball Track” procedure is performed with each ball using a custom made 1.680-inch Class X No-Go Gauge.

A ball that fails the “Ball Track” test is deemed “bad.” Zero (0) golf balls failed the ball track test.

Visual inspection

Snell Prime 3.0 Core

We use a generous standard in grading physical defects. The golf ball always gets the benefit of the doubt. As part of the process, balls are cut into three pieces.

Cover defects – Our approach is to look for cover defects that an average golfer is likely to notice and take issue with. To that end, minor defects such as pin marks, dimple artifacts and other small irregularities are ignored.

Balls with major defects like missing dimples, significant surface impressions, tool marks or scratched/scuffed covers are considered “bad.” Zero (0) golf balls for notable cover defects.

Core centeredness – The object of our centeredness test is not to put the ball under a microscope, count millimeters and otherwise nitpick. The goal is to identify irregularities that are likely to have meaningful performance implications.

While we note any core that is visibly off-center to the naked eye, a ball is only deemed “bad” when the core is significantly off-center. Zero (0) golf balls flagged for off-center cores.

Layer concentricity and thickness – Irregularities in the mantle and cover layers can have a quantifiable performance impact. Once again, we note visible but relatively minor issues. A ball is only deemed “bad” when there is a significant inconsistency in the thickness of the mantle or cover layers.

Typically, these are balls where one or more of the layers is significantly thicker on one side of the ball than the other. Four (4) golf balls flagged for layer concentricity and/or thickness issues.

Snell Prime 3.0 Core

Core color consistency – Small variations in color are ignored. What we’re looking for are irregularities that would indicate an inconsistent mixture or other abnormalities in the core itself.

Snell Prime 3.0 Cores

A ball is deemed “bad” when the appearance of the core is significantly different from others in the sample. In most cases, balls with this particular defect will have already been deemed “bad” for other reasons. The core color consistency across the sample was consistent. However, there was one (1) golf ball in the lot that appears to be a different model with the Prime 3.0 side stamp on it.

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Performance review

The 2024 Snell Prime 3.0 golf ball was not robotically tested during the 2023 Golf Ball Test.

According to Snell, the three-piece Prime 3.0 is a total performance golf ball designed for a wide range of golfers.

Snell Golf asserts the Prime 3.0 core will provide the average swing speed golfer with high ball speed and low spin off the driver. Furthermore, “the mantle layer is designed for controlling iron spin to mid-high levels to execute every shot in the bag.” Sounds like a formidable combination for any golfer.

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      Jay Nichols

      2 months ago

      Hey Dean,
      Why don’t you come up with an original side stamp instead of copying everything Titleist does? With all those years you worked in the golf industry, can’t you come up with an original design you can call your own? I’m sure it’s difficult being in lower 50% of ball makers, but an original side stamp shouldn’t be that hard.

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      Kyle

      3 months ago

      I’ve been gaming the 3.0 for awhile now. If fact I’ve purchased my second value pack .
      I just don’t see these bad results. The last series were 💩. But the PRIME 3.0 are fantastic.
      Maybe SNELL GOLF got a bad batch & that’s what was tested? 🤷‍♂️
      I see Pro V performance at almost half the cost. I will continue to game these balls until I personally see something wacky off. Nothing so far. 2 1/2 boxes in.
      I’m a recreational golfer with a 5 index if that matters…..

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      T. A.

      4 months ago

      Wow! I just read through the review and the comments. What really has me shaking my head is that people are saying that they were having success, didn’t notice any issues, but because of a review they will no longer use the ball? I guess that’s why influencers make a lot of $$; people trust what others say above their own experiences. Yes, WOW again.

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      CB

      4 months ago

      Wow, this is crazy, and I feel awful for Dean and Co. So many people here also saying that they haven’t noticed any playing irregularities or odd behavior with the balls, so could it be possible that Dean is right about the tolerances not mattering in the real world. If these balls aren’t flying a mile offline like some of the stories MGS shared about robot testing in the past from some balls, maybe it’s not such a big deal.

      However, if I can obtain balls like Maxfli, which are comparably priced, play just fine, and test better for consistency, it’s hard to justify rolling the dice on the Snells right now. I LOVED the original MTB and MTB-Black stuff and was a local advocate who encouraged others to look beyond the name on the ball and try it out against ProV1s.

      Would really love to see some robot testing of these poorly rated balls against ProVs just to see if anything shakes out in the standard deviations of the different performance metrics. Compare the actual performance against ProV1 and then retest the batch that was hit to check all the ball test metrics, so we can have a better idea of the tolerances really do make a difference or not. Maybe Dean should do such a test himself too though, to prove what he’s saying. Who knows, maybe such a test ends up proving some of this ball lab testing is actually kind of pointless. Now that’d be a story.

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      dinh

      4 months ago

      If the balls are not symmetrical and balanced, they will not have a consistent flight, roll, spin, etc. I hope Snell can correct the issues.

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      Derek

      4 months ago

      I was such a huge fan of the MTB Black. I purchased 20+ dozen of those and some of the MTB X’s as well. When it disappeared, I ordered the prime, which was disappointing in terms of durability. I’ve not purchased anymore and am not sure I will moving forward. Too many missteps lately and while I understand the process is difficult… Spending my money on something that’s not put together and planned well doesn’t make me too happy.

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      Ryan

      4 months ago

      Dean’s response mostly comes down to this: He can spec his balls all he wants, but he doesn’t own the factory that produces them. If they do a bad job, he has little recourse. It’s unfortunate that the old factory partner is no more, but clearly this new factory in China isn’t as good as the old one in Taiwan.

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      WYBob

      4 months ago

      Dean Snell was at his best when the balls were being produced in Korea. Then TaylorMade bought the plant and Dean was kicked to the curb. That was an interesting turn of events because he was deeply involved in the design and manufacturing of the TaylorMade 5-piece balls. Finding a top-end ball plant in Asia outside of Japan, Korea, or Taiwan is very difficult. Look at the problems Srixon has had with their plant in Indonesia. I hope Dean finds a top-tier ball producer to partner with quickly. He is one of the good guys and deserves better.

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      Micah

      4 months ago

      I thought Srixon’s Z-Star lineup was made in Japan

      Mark T.

      4 months ago

      My take-away on the Dean video is that making golf balls is hard, and maintaining the tight tolerances are even more difficult. But, saying we’re out of specs by only a little bit comes off as dismissive. Granted, not sure how I’d have addressed it myself. No good answers.
      He also talks about trying to make a longer ball, which pushed the maximum weight to the limit and the problem has been corrected. But, how many balls were made (and still being sold) with the incorrect weight specs? Not sure if MyGolfSpy will test the other Snell balls this year, but really hope so.
      All this makes me remember the say ‘you live by the sword, you die by the sword’, meaning MGS reviews of Snell balls are what really put them on the map and sales sky-rocketed. Now due to manufacturing and quality flaws, may be the company that buries them.

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      BV

      4 months ago

      I too am curious how long these out of spec balls will be shipping out.. Honestly, I don’t play tournaments and I don’t know of anyone I play with measuring thier balls weights. For the average weekend warrior, I don’t see weight being an issue. Compression really bothers me, but those of us that often play “found” Pro Vs and whatnot, it probably won’t be all that impactful on thier round. I do see an issue with roundness though.

      Did the article ever state how many balls were tested? In the past I feel like it was 3 dozen. It also gave us a percentage..

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      Chris Gordon

      4 months ago

      Did you see the video he posted about the review?

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      WYBob

      4 months ago

      Dean Snell has posted his response to this ball lab, and in a nutshell, he is one pissed-off hombre. He addresses each of the major points raised in this article directly. Not saying he is correct in his point of view, but as a neutral observer, I have noticed that the consistency of the ball lab results has suffered since Tony relinquished ownership of the ball lab reporting. And the quantity and quality of ball labs this year is significantly less than in prior years. My suggestion is to have Tony and Chris invite Dean on a future “No Putts Given” and debate their points of view. If nothing else, it would be a must-watch episode!

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      Jim Woolford

      4 months ago

      Agreed

      Compare his response to Callaway a few years back.

      And bring the evidence. Like the non-concentric balls. And do some course/club testing of the 3.0. Driver, 7 iron, PW (full and half) and putter.

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      BV

      4 months ago

      Real bummer to see this. I’ve played all the MTBs in the past and really liked them. Still have a box of MTB-X. I’m not overly concerned with the one odd ball. I’m fairly certain it would be noticeable on the putting/chipping green pre round, but the compression range really throws me off. I try to play the same ball for a whole season for consistency. Wish they had the chart to show where each ball measured for compressionans weight. I’d be curious if that 2 piece ball threw off the data range.

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      Maurice G

      4 months ago

      I played the MTB Prime and was more than satisfied. In fact, I was disappointed when they were taken off the market. I purchased the 3.0 and have enjoyed their performance as well. They are more durable than the original. I recommend them (wish they were manufactured elsewhere though).

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      John Boyer

      4 months ago

      I bought one box of the 3.0’s. Flight was too low for my swing speed of the driver (85 mph). Iron flight was somewhat better, and they spin more than either tour responses or chrome softs. I liked how they were around the greens, but didn’t like the clicky sound off the putter. I’m a 2-3 HC but play 6000 yards, so launch and driver distance was better with chrome softs, which are way softer. About 10 yards less carry off the driver with the 3.0’s. But I have to say that I didn’t notice any wobbly or off line shots due to the ball. Tested the balls against each other on the same day, playing alone.

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      dancin

      4 months ago

      Dean responded claiming the differences don’t matter (except for the one that was obviously a different ball). Funny how he didn’t even address the huge compression variance which certainly would affect the “performance of the golf ball” he claims is what matters. Not a good look Dean

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      Bruce

      4 months ago

      Just listened to Dean’s message. I’ve been playing Snell for 3+years and aside from last years cover issues, I’ve been very pleased with the product. But I can’t help feeling that he’s going to rely on tech talk to sweep aside the issues that were found with the 3.0 testing. He addressed the weight question and says that the other problems ( he did not actually say the words diameter and compression) will be handled during a future talk. The Titleists of the world prove time over time how consistent they are with their specs. For Dean to say that “as long as it falls in this range, it’s fine” seems a bit hollow.

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      JFK007

      4 months ago

      Agree. Missed opportunity to address it. I was/ am still a massive fan of the former mtb-black and mtb-x. I really felt for the challenges Dean had to go through during Covid. However when the mtb prime came out, he launched a ball that wasn’t ready for prime time. The mantle scoffed right away. It wasn’t ready. Despite Dean’s commitment to quality, transparency and player performance. I was really hoping that it was a one-off and eager to try to new prime 3.0 ball. Irrespective of whether the ball does or doesn’t perform, it should be legal and compliant to the rules of golf, and these should be consistent enough compared with other tour quality golf balls, if positioned as such-. If Dean was to say that he was diverting from consistency because it doesn’t affect and allow for the same performance at lower prices -because achieving low tolerance is expensive-, fine. The consumer would know what they are up to. But in the absence of it, it seems totally fair to identify and flag his golf balls as having , compared to peers , worse consistency in weight, size, compression, roundness,… my take is that the quality norms applied todate -or at least going into the manufacturing golf balls tested- is/ was not measuring up. Second time in a row after the mtb prime debacle. I hope Dean and the Snell team make the process / factory/ people changes needed to be top class again, and until then I will wait for their future golfspy review and lab testing. In the meantime I hope that Dean recognizes that his path to coming out of this stronger goes through golfspy rather than by going around it or calling their tests BS.

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      Dopey Duffer 60

      4 months ago

      Have been using Snells for approximately 6 years. I have compared them to Pro V1, Chrome Whatever, Taylormade TP5/Tour Response/A type/etc, Mizuno 566/TourRB, you get the point. Dince I work for the country’s largest sporting goods retailer I have tge opportunity to compare inside and out.
      First played Dean’s ball at a local muni and found them to be very good. Then went to the local PGA/USGA course and played them there where I normallg play Pro V1. Found the 3.0 and 4.0 BOTH worked extremely well on Oak Tree’s fun fairways. Then went up the road and played the 3.o/4.0 along with TP5 and Pro V1 and STILL Dean’s products exceede what I could have imagined. JUST BECAUSE a “couple” of items were out of spec dies NOT mean they all ARE. I have noticed playing differences in Pro V1s and TP5s as well. Remember, it is WHERE the products are made. Titleist and Taylirmade are made in Thailand and Taiwan. When thinking about ball production quality these twi do NOT jump up and scream TOP NOTCH.
      In summary, at my work, a Golf Retail Shop, the Snelk I bring in perform as good as the others.

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      Doug Seel

      4 months ago

      Exactly!!

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      Jay Nichols

      3 months ago

      Titleist V1 & V1x are made in MA, the Thailand plant that makes V1 & V1x are for Asia & Europe.
      Why don’t you do some research before posting your misinformation here.

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      Jay Nichols

      3 months ago

      If you live in North America, you’re completely wrong, the Pro V1 & Pro V1x made in Thailand are sold in Europe & Asia and they’re made with the same quality and materials, and processed on the same equipment in both Ball Pant 3 & Ball Plant 4, you should learn the facts before printing lies about the #1 golf ball company worldwide, and MGS should delete the comments that are lies like yours.

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      Sam M

      4 months ago

      I play the MTB Prime and recently ordered a 3.0 and 4.0 to try. Will see how it fares. Hopefully Snell can rectify this situation and get it right.

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      TENBUCK

      4 months ago

      What really is disturbing is the ball that wasn’t even a 3.0 with a 3.0 stamp….I wonder how many more other model balls are printed with a 3.0 stamp?
      This boarders on deceitful sales. Feel sorry for Dean, played MTB in the past and have loved them….he’s going to have to do a lot of PR work to get people back!

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      Jon Compton

      4 months ago

      To claim “this borders on deceitful sales” carries the implication the error was intentional. Are you suggesting Snell may be intentionally selling “bad balls”, even after Dean explained the error and said it had been corrected? Be aware what stones (or golf balls) you throw without knowing all the facts.

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      Bignose

      4 months ago

      It is at least mildly amusing that on the same day this article is released, Blake Snell of the SF Giants throws a no hitter. The Snell name goes from a lowest low to a highest high in the span of about 18 hours.

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      Joe Perez

      4 months ago

      OUCH! I’ve been using SNELL golf balls for years, since the company first appeared. I’ve found them to be very good, and was pleased to see that they were rated very highly in a previous MyGolfSpy test. I have quite a few dozen MTB left, but looks like I’ll be looking at other brands.

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      Kuso

      4 months ago

      I will say it again what’s on everybody’s mind:
      YIKES 😬

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      Tom

      4 months ago

      Every time I have considered these or other DTC brands I think why would I change from the Maxfli Tour S ball that I have been so pleased with? For $25/dozen (when bought on sale when they offer an extra 10%) it’s an amazing value, readily available at my local Dicks/GG or free shipping in a couple days, and the MGS score is 89.

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      Peejer

      4 months ago

      Ton’s of comments here, which means everyone was very interested in the relaunch of the new Snell balls. I’d been a huge fan, going back to the ‘My Tour Ball’ and even had direct communication with Dean Snell when I wrote a review for golfballed.com (now defunct). I thought I found my forever ball – but a newer version came out, MTB series, which I also loved. Here’s where things started to go south…
      Unfortunately, this ball and it’s predecessor is undermining all the early success that Snell accomplished. Based upon the last version of balls, I avoided the ‘must buy’ temptation as I was anxiously awaiting the new MyGolfSpy Lab Test before I ordered any. Sadly, that turned out to be a smart move on my part, but man…I really wanted these balls to fix the previous woes. The quality score is bad enough, but having a ball that seemingly didn’t even belong in that batch is really concerning. I’m anxious to hear what Dean has to say.

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      Russ Franks

      4 months ago

      Bought a dozen and played the 3.0 over the last week. I have nothing bad to say about it. Cover was better than the last model which I why I stopped buying Snell. I am not dissatisfied with the 3.0 at all. Really surprised by this report. Not a chance in hell I believe this ball is worse than the Kirkland ball.

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      Dan

      4 months ago

      Bought a box of 4.0s today and played 18 with those and Mizuno RB tours to compare and contrast. Thought the Mizunos won heads and tails. Now I realize maybe the Mizunos weren’t that great and the Snells were just that bad. Woof

      And after Dean Snell scrapped the last model after 1 season to make better..yikes

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      Bob

      4 months ago

      I tried the 2.0 I went thru 2 sleeves and gave the rest away. They totally sucked. No spin and really lousy distance. I went back to Maxfli, I shouldn’t have wasted the cash. I used the Snell MTB before and they were fine

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      Kris

      4 months ago

      I feel bad for Snell. I’ve been using the 3.0s since they came out and really like the feel. I’ve been through 7 dozen or so and like these balls better then most, especially for the price.

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      Jay Nichols

      3 months ago

      I don’t feel bad for Snell, you make junk, sell junk, the customer gets junk and his company pays with poor reviews on quality & performance.
      Snell doesn’t even have an imagination, he copies Titleist on every side stamp design, and has used the V & X in model names like every competitor trying to compete with the best.
      The PROCORE championship played this week has a field of 144 players, 100 PGA Tour professionals have teed up a Titleist Pro V1 or Pro V1x, if that doesn’t prove who the best is, you’re just in denial, and you don’t want to pay for the top performing products.

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      Kyle S.

      4 months ago

      This sucks, I’ve absolutely loved when I found a Snell a little off course in great shape. the old ones were like gold to me.

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      Richard

      4 months ago

      I just have to ask – With 20 balls over weight, have you guys checked your scale to confirm calibration and validate that result?

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      John O

      4 months ago

      I’d wager that’s the first thing they did when the test started going south ….

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      Robert Colella

      4 months ago

      Every weight, diameter, and compression session is started and ended with a calibration verification. Additionally, this sample was run through the same parameters on 4 separate occasions on multiple days due to the results we were seeing.

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      Andy

      4 months ago

      The MTB, then the MTB Blacks, were the 2 best balls I’ve played. Tried the Prime 4.0 and 3.0 and very much disliked them. Didn’t feel the same, didn’t perform the same. Wish I could still buy the MTB Black.

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      Kyle

      4 months ago

      Wow. Dean seems to be a professional stand up guy. I’m curious to hear his reaction. I bet he picks up his boot straps and fixes the problems to make a better ball.

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      PG

      4 months ago

      Given that he doesn’t own the manufacturing facility and he’s just buying products that might be difficult. I suspect his ball spec is good, but they can’t produce the product to the price/quality that he would like. Making good quality golf balls isn’t easy (otherwise everyone would be doing it) and finding the right partner for production looks to have gotten harder with the fire in Taiwan.

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      WiTerp50

      4 months ago

      I liked the concept of David Snell creating a quality DCS ball. Unfortunately having been kicked of Foremost and then the fire in Taiwan, he may the odd man out getting a quality manufacturing partner. Curious about reviews of 2 & 4 to see if they as equally poor. The market is pretty crowded now, so there will be some thinning. This may be one.

      John O

      4 months ago

      What happened to the graphs showing which ball came from which box – when displaying the compression, weight and diamter measurments?

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      Scott

      4 months ago

      I’m wondering the same thing. A graph would be especially helpful given the severity of the review. I’m not going to get too excited about a ball that’s 0.005″ on the diameter or .005 ounces on weight out of spec. I’m not a PGA pro so my game (and 99% of those reading this) won’t be effected. I am and would be more concerned about the odd core ball found.

      I’ve been a Snell user from the beginning as many of those that have left a reply. I suspect this is a kink in the relationship with the new subcontractor that will be resolved quickly.

      Is it embarrassing, yep. Does it shake my faith in Dean and Snell, uh, no.

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      george skinner

      4 months ago

      made in China……that says it all. I will never play a snell golf ball

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      KJC

      4 months ago

      Ding

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      Kyle

      3 months ago

      Nobody is making you

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      Jim

      4 months ago

      Disappointing. I’ve been a Snell fan since they first arrived and was hoping that this new generation would be an improvement over the last version (they weren’t very durable). Seems the design is fine but the Chinese factory isn’t doing Snell any favors and is producing inferior balls. Hopefully Dean will resolve the issue quickly – he’s been very up front about all the issues facing the company and the development of the balls so hopefully he’ll do the same here. It’s too bad as the earlier versions of the balls were always very highly rated by MGS.

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      Gary Uptigrove

      4 months ago

      I also am very disappointed
      Especially since I bought 2 dozen after hearing the previous issues were fixed. I trusted Snell balls would be quality tested before release. Lesson learned

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      HackerBill

      4 months ago

      Dang, just bought 14 boxes of the 3.0 for prizes at my non-profit agency’s golf classic. Well at least with our logo printed on them they will look pretty.

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      Tom

      4 months ago

      Sad…Dean got screwed by TaylorMade, but he should have negotiated a long term contract with that plant.

      Now, he’s having subpar (pun intended) balls produced. This review could put him out of business. Quality control was supposed to be the big thing with this relaunch….guess not. Is he buying balls back?

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      Gary Uptigrove

      4 months ago

      I’m done w Snell now. Enjoyed the MTB-X which made me a fan but now…
      I appreciate MYGOLFSPY separating hype from facts.

      Reply

      SeattleGolf

      4 months ago

      Ouch, I literally just received 5 dozen 3.0’s (three white, two yellow) yesterday. I guess I’ll see if they play as bad as the test.

      Reply

      Bruce R

      4 months ago

      I have been playing the Snell 3.0 for the past three weeks and have found the ball to be very consistent. Driver distance and accuracy, check. Iron distance and accuracy, check.
      So far I haven’t found any issues with the ball.

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      Tom Welch

      4 months ago

      Same here. I thought they felt heavy, certainly felt different from the MBT’s I used to love. Now I suppose I’m stuck with them.

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      Mark Norton

      4 months ago

      How Snell MTB Prime compares with the Prime 3.0?

      Reply

      Anthony Pettinelli

      4 months ago

      Loved the Primes, they just didn’t last. Kept right up with the ProV1, but cost wise a round cost more for the primes. I’m waiting for the 4.0 review! I had a few off the driver that just would never fly right. (Repeatedly)

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      erock9174

      4 months ago

      Can’t wait for the next episode of Tech Talk with Dean Snell :)

      Reply

      Les

      4 months ago

      I bought a dozen of the Prime 2.0 and the Prime 3.0 balls (yellow). So far I’ve played the Prime 2.0 more than the 3.0’s and find that the 2.0’s are ok but not great. The 3.0’s I seem to like more than the 2.0’s. In fact I like the 3.0’s quite a bit. I’m not enamored with the yellow color of either one as it’s a kind of “washed out” yellow. It’s not really bright like most of it’s competitors. I don’t think I’ll buy more of the 2.0’s and haven’t decided if the color will keep me from buying more 3.0’s or not. This article now has me wondering if I want any more at all.

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      John M

      4 months ago

      Has you wondering !!!! What else do they need to write to convince you these are some of the worse balls tested

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      cksurfdude

      4 months ago

      Disappointing. Wanted to try these and glad I saw this first. *Hopefully* if they can move production back to Foremost the MyGolfSpy could retest these .. with hopefully a better result… TBD.

      Reply

      Lou

      4 months ago

      MGS has always been Snell’s biggest supporter and marketing arm. It must have pained Tony Covey to write this report. The next person up to hear from now is Dean Snell. If the 3.0 is this bad, chances are the 2.0 and 4.0 are bad, too. Awaiting your explanation, Mr Snell.

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      Frank

      4 months ago

      Agreed, the prior generation MTB tested very well.

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      Scott

      4 months ago

      That is not good
      The Snell Black was the best ball I ever played
      If they still made it, i would still play it
      I tested out the 3.0 and I found it to be very clicky off of the putter.
      The performance was good enough, but not good enough to unseat my Wilson Triads
      They score slightly better in this test.

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      john pohanka

      4 months ago

      Loved the MTB black, still play them to this day. Best golf ball ever produced, period(my opinion)

      Reply

      WYBob

      4 months ago

      I would love to hear from Dean Snell on these results and follow-up corrective actions. Maybe invite him on a future No Putts Given episode to discuss this. He has a long and respected history in golf ball design and production (Pro V1, TM Penta, etc.). TaylorMade buying the golf ball plant in Korea and then kicking Snell out has created a myriad of problems for Snell. Their original balls were very good, but as Dean searches for places to have his golf ball produced, there have been issues with availability and quality. Hope he gets it corrected quickly and his company revitalized.

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      Bignose

      4 months ago

      This is why I do really like this site. It is obvious that you folks are fans of the brand and the man, and that is ok. But you are also willing to publish what you discovered in your testing. I do hope that the company can figure out what is happening here; all the previous versions I played I was happy with and I think it is very valuable having more choices in the marketplace, however for those choices to be true choices, there is a quality they must maintain. Snell has done it before, but they now how a lot of hard work ahead of them today.

      Reply

      Gregory Ellis

      4 months ago

      I’ve never played a Snell Golf ball & after reading this article probably will never play one.

      Reply

      Golfinnut

      4 months ago

      Wow! Good thing I didn’t buy any ….. oh wait

      Reply

      Marc H

      4 months ago

      Wow. This is exactly I love being an active member here. I was considering trying these vs my Maxfli Tours…..Not a chance! Poor Dean. (insert the ewwww michael scott .gif)

      Reply

      Colby

      4 months ago

      Same. For a DTC brand this is damming.

      Reply

      James

      4 months ago

      Wow. There’s a quality control manager out there looking for a new job this morning – maybe even the entire department.

      Reply

      Cody Reeder

      4 months ago

      Ouch…

      Reply

      Dancin

      4 months ago

      Combination of the Chinese factory and Snell not caring enough to test lots or knowing the lots are bad but not able to take the financial hit of waiting for new batches without being able to sell. This is potentially business ending.

      Reply

      Rob

      4 months ago

      R.I.P. Snell Golf :(

      Reply

      John M

      4 months ago

      Agree. MGS just put a nail in the coffin

      Reply

      SortaLikeGolf

      4 months ago

      Mislabeling a clearly different ball and still charging the same price for it (I’m not even an expert but I can tell the difference between a bisected 2-piece vs. 3-piece) is SUS to the extreme and goes beyond a manufacturing issue on a machine. I want to know what I’m buying without having to cut it open to find out.

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      MIGregB

      4 months ago

      Man, I feel for Dean Snell. He’s been kicked in the (golf) balls with more than his share of manufacturing issues. I don’t doubt that he’s apoplectic about this.

      Reply

      Tim

      4 months ago

      WOW! To think before they were forced to change manufacturing facilities you rated them very high. Sorry to see as I was pulling for their comeback. I had some of my best rounds with the balls with the previous logo. Back to ProV1x

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      Phillip Schiller

      4 months ago

      I am a user of the Yellow Prime 3.0 and have not had any noticeable issues. I am curious if the yellow version has similar issues.

      Have you heard back from Dean Snell about the results of your tests?

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      Randy Siedschlag

      4 months ago

      This worries me about the 4.0 I play

      Reply

      Ben

      4 months ago

      Agreed. I’ve been playing the 4.0 and felt like it was solid. Might go back to Maxfli again.

      Reply

      Randy Siedschlag

      4 months ago

      TBH, I start my round with a yellow maxfli X and then switch to my snell 4.0 after a few holes. Have also hit them side by side. The Snell goes about 5-7 yards farther FWIW. I will play out the stash I have but when I get close to running out I will need to reconsider or see how the 4.0 tests. Dean said this was a one off thing early on. Maybe MGS should do a retest. Let Dean back up his claim. Then the biggest issue would be, why did Dean not recall these balls if he knew this was an issue?

      MarkM

      4 months ago

      Wow, I think that’s the worst score I’ve seen. I’ll stick with my Maxflis.

      Reply

      Gene Weaver

      4 months ago

      I’ve been playing the Snell 4.0 and like them

      Reply

      Micah M

      4 months ago

      This is upsetting. I’m a huge fan of Snell but I can’t justify buying a ball this poorly made.

      Reply

      Dules

      4 months ago

      Interesting. I play the 3.0 & like the ball a lot. Haven’t seen any performance issues noticeable on the course & found it also to be pretty durable. I have used the 2.0 & 3.0 in yellow but mostly play the 3.0. I’m an 11 handicap so I guess maybe not good enough to know a good ball from a bad one? Anyway,I find the results surprising & not consistent with my personal observation but I just play golf, not a golf ball scientist.

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      Gene Weaver

      4 months ago

      My same observation with the 4.0

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      Gene Weaver

      4 months ago

      My same observation

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      Don Hollensbe

      4 months ago

      My same observation with 3.0.

      Reply

      Kent

      4 months ago

      Great. I just received 2 boxes of the 4.0…Hope they’re better.

      Reply

      Jason S

      4 months ago

      Yikes! That’s too bad. I am pulling for Snell to dig themselves out of the ashes (literally) and get back to who they were before. This isn’t a positive start.

      Reply

      CB

      4 months ago

      Ouch. Is this the worst lot ever tested?

      Reply

      Sam Simpson

      4 months ago

      Whoa that factory is getting a call from Mr Snell!

      Reply

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